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| [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274316] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 09:50  |
william ezzell
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I have a 1978 Kingsley with the original gas appliances. When I turn on
the LP is the any pilot lights that need to be lit first.
I have had the unit for a couple of months but have not had the weather to
use it yet,.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274321 is a reply to message #274320] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 10:15  |
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Yes, gas WOULD come through, and that's the potential problem. My stove has a valve under the top plate that turns gas to the STOVE pilot lights on or off.
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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:04:37 -0400
> From: wmezzell@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light
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> If there are pilots how do I not use them, wouldn't gas come through if not
> lit?
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>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:00 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
> wrote:
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>> I'd hazard a guess that you should light the farthest away stove burner
>> first. It's the same procedure I use with my travel trailer.
>>
>> It seems that air WILL be present in the lines when the main gas valve has
>> been turned off for an extended period of time. Lighting the far-away main
>> stove burner pretty much assures that gas will be ready when called for.
>>
>> I do NOT use pilot lights! I consider that it is all too easy for wind or
>> other air currents to extinguish operating pilots which would shortly fill
>> the coach interior with unlit gas. NOT A GOOD SITUATION!
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>> Just my opinion! Do as you wish!
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>>> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50:20 -0400
>>> From: wmezzell@gmail.com
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Pilot light
>>>
>>> I have a 1978 Kingsley with the original gas appliances. When I turn on
>>> the LP is the any pilot lights that need to be lit first.
>>> I have had the unit for a couple of months but have not had the weather
>> to
>>> use it yet,.
>>> --
>>> *Thanks *
>>> *Bill Ezzell *
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274322 is a reply to message #274319] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 10:29 |
william ezzell
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Thank you, that is what I need. Thank You Very Much.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:06 AM, John Wright wrote:
> Bill,
> If by gas appliances you mean the stove/oven combo and furnace, there are
> no pilot lights to light. The stove you light with a match unless you have
> a push button igniter and the furnace has electronic ignition.
>
> J.R. Wright
> 30' Buskirk Stretch
> Michigan
> On Location in Tucson
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>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:50 AM, william ezzell wrote:
>>
>> I have a 1978 Kingsley with the original gas appliances. When I turn on
>> the LP is the any pilot lights that need to be lit first.
>> I have had the unit for a couple of months but have not had the weather
> to
>> use it yet,.
>> --
>> *Thanks *
>> *Bill Ezzell *
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274323 is a reply to message #274319] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 10:28 |
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The original stoves do have pilot lights. You can choose to light the pilot light that is located in the center of the burners. It can burn continuously and you an choose to use the pilot and just turn on the burners for them to light. Or, you can turn off the gas to the pilot and light the burners as you use them with a match.
The oven has a pilot light that must be lit to use the oven. The oven control has a Pilot Off position that must be used or gas will flow to the pilot even when it isn't lit.
New owners often smell gas if they are not aware of how the oven pilot light works.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:06 AM, John Wright wrote:
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> Bill,
> If by gas appliances you mean the stove/oven combo and furnace, there are no pilot lights to light. The stove you light with a match unless you have a push button igniter and the furnace has electronic ignition.
>
> J.R. Wright
> 30' Buskirk Stretch
> Michigan
> On Location in Tucson
>
>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:50 AM, william ezzell wrote:
>>
>> I have a 1978 Kingsley with the original gas appliances. When I turn on
>> the LP is the any pilot lights that need to be lit first.
>> I have had the unit for a couple of months but have not had the weather to
>> use it yet,.
>> --
>> *Thanks *
>> *Bill Ezzell *
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274326 is a reply to message #274322] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 11:23 |
Mr ERFisher
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Do this
http://gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#IGNITOR
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015, william ezzell wrote:
> Thank you, that is what I need. Thank You Very Much.
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:06 AM, John Wright > wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> If by gas appliances you mean the stove/oven combo and furnace, there are
>> no pilot lights to light. The stove you light with a match unless you
> have
>> a push button igniter and the furnace has electronic ignition.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>> 30' Buskirk Stretch
>> Michigan
>> On Location in Tucson
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:50 AM, william ezzell > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 1978 Kingsley with the original gas appliances. When I turn
> on
>>> the LP is the any pilot lights that need to be lit first.
>>> I have had the unit for a couple of months but have not had the weather
>> to
>>> use it yet,.
>>> --
>>> *Thanks *
>>> *Bill Ezzell *
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274327 is a reply to message #274326] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 11:35 |
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I like this Thanks Bill
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:23 PM, gene Fisher wrote:
> Do this
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#IGNITOR
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> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015, william ezzell wrote:
>
>> Thank you, that is what I need. Thank You Very Much.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:06 AM, John Wright > > wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>> If by gas appliances you mean the stove/oven combo and furnace, there
> are
>>> no pilot lights to light. The stove you light with a match unless you
>> have
>>> a push button igniter and the furnace has electronic ignition.
>>>
>>> J.R. Wright
>>> 30' Buskirk Stretch
>>> Michigan
>>> On Location in Tucson
>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 7:50 AM, william ezzell > > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1978 Kingsley with the original gas appliances. When I turn
>> on
>>>> the LP is the any pilot lights that need to be lit first.
>>>> I have had the unit for a couple of months but have not had the
> weather
>>> to
>>>> use it yet,.
>>>> --
>>>> *Thanks *
>>>> *Bill Ezzell *
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274337 is a reply to message #274316] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 14:28 |
william ezzell
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Thanks, when I get it out of storage I will check it.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Emery Stora wrote:
> Matt
>
> Modern stoves shut off the gas to the pilot but the Magic Chef used in
> most GMC motorhomes does not. The oven control has an off position and a
> pilot off position. Many turn it to off but gas flows to the pilot light in
> the oven. If the pilot is not lit then a small amount of gas vents inside
> the motorhome. To prevent this on must put the control to the Pilot Off
> position.
>
> Emery Stora
>
>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
>>
>> william ezzell wrote on Wed, 25 March 2015 12:58
>>> No, is this something that the place were I get the LP can do for me. I
> don't have a manometer
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>>> *Thanks *
>>> *Bill Ezzell *
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>> Bill,
>>
>> Don't worry about it.
>> All gas appliances are supposed to shut off the pilot light when a flame
> is not present. The only one I know that does not is the center pilot for
>> the four burned Coleman range and that you have to turn on the pilot
> with the oven control.
>>
>> About a manometer.
>> Make one with a piece of clear tubing, two rubber bands and a yard stick.
>> Use the rubber bands to hold the tubing on the yard stick.
>> Put about 18" of water in the tubing.
>> Stand it next to the stove.
>> Open the stove top and remove one burner.
>> Plug the hose on the jet of that burner.
>> Turn that burner on.
>> Look and see if you have 11" if column differential.
>>
>> Yes, it is that easy.
>>
>> Matt
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> Arms
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274338 is a reply to message #274336] |
Wed, 25 March 2015 14:24 |
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Matt
Modern stoves shut off the gas to the pilot but the Magic Chef used in most GMC motorhomes does not. The oven control has an off position and a pilot off position. Many turn it to off but gas flows to the pilot light in the oven. If the pilot is not lit then a small amount of gas vents inside the motorhome. To prevent this on must put the control to the Pilot Off position.
Emery Stora
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
> william ezzell wrote on Wed, 25 March 2015 12:58
>> No, is this something that the place were I get the LP can do for me. I don't have a manometer
>> --
>> *Thanks *
>> *Bill Ezzell *
>
> Bill,
>
> Don't worry about it.
> All gas appliances are supposed to shut off the pilot light when a flame is not present. The only one I know that does not is the center pilot for
> the four burned Coleman range and that you have to turn on the pilot with the oven control.
>
> About a manometer.
> Make one with a piece of clear tubing, two rubber bands and a yard stick.
> Use the rubber bands to hold the tubing on the yard stick.
> Put about 18" of water in the tubing.
> Stand it next to the stove.
> Open the stove top and remove one burner.
> Plug the hose on the jet of that burner.
> Turn that burner on.
> Look and see if you have 11" if column differential.
>
> Yes, it is that easy.
>
> Matt
> --
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> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274374 is a reply to message #274316] |
Thu, 26 March 2015 08:00 |
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Im not sure what fridge you have, but if its gas (and also runs on electrci) there is also a burner there that needs to be lit, that stays on similar to a pilot light.
Also dont know what kind of water heater you have. If its a propane unit with Direct spark ignition there is no pilot to light so no worries. If not there is a pilot there as well, but only if you want hot water. You should be able to shut that off at the gas valve just to be sure.
It also would not hurt to bubble soap all the fittings and connections you can see with the gas on to see if you have any leaks.
Hope this helps.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pilot light [message #274433 is a reply to message #274411] |
Fri, 27 March 2015 13:12 |
william ezzell
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Thanks, Good advise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Rob Mueller
wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Here's a link to the Owners Manual for your 1978 Kingsley. I would suggest
> you download and read it cover to cover and after doing
> so if there's anything you don't understand send questions to the GMC net.
>
> http://www.bdub.net/manuals/ops78/X7821A.zip
>
> I have been hanging around here for over seven years and have read some
> nightmare stories of new owners screwing stuff up with
> serious consequences because they didn't know what the hell they were
> doing!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: william ezzell
>
> I have a 1978 Kingsley with the original gas appliances. When I turn on
> the LP is the any pilot lights that need to be lit first.
> I have had the unit for a couple of months but have not had the weather to
> use it yet,.
> --
> *Thanks *
> *Bill Ezzell *
>
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