| [GMCnet] Thermodynamics [message #273265] |
Sat, 07 March 2015 12:25  |
emerystora
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I am tired of hearing things being misattributed to the laws of Thermodynamics.
I wonder how many readers even know how many laws there are or can tell us what they are without looking it up on the Internet.
Probably very few, if any.
There have been so many falsehoods and misinterpretations of this that I am done with it and will not longer post anything to the Thermostat thread.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thermodynamics [message #273269 is a reply to message #273265] |
Sat, 07 March 2015 13:46  |
sgltrac
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Kill this threa now. It fing sucks. My delete finger blistered.
Todd Sullivan
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Seattle
> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
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> I am tired of hearing things being misattributed to the laws of Thermodynamics.
> I wonder how many readers even know how many laws there are or can tell us what they are without looking it up on the Internet.
> Probably very few, if any.
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> There have been so many falsehoods and misinterpretations of this that I am done with it and will not longer post anything to the Thermostat thread.
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thermodynamics [message #273278 is a reply to message #273265] |
Sat, 07 March 2015 18:12 |
jhbridges
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I never grasped thermodynamics, I still don't. I stick to empirical results, and let those of you who have the c.v. hash out the theory. Me 'n' Georg Ohm get along fairly well, though.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thermodynamics [message #273437 is a reply to message #273265] |
Mon, 09 March 2015 22:40 |
Bob de Kruyff
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emerystora wrote on Sat, 07 March 2015 11:25I am tired of hearing things being misattributed to the laws of Thermodynamics.
I wonder how many readers even know how many laws there are or can tell us what they are without looking it up on the Internet.
Probably very few, if any.
There have been so many falsehoods and misinterpretations of this that I am done with it and will not longer post anything to the Thermostat thread.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
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All this to do over a dubious post in the first place !
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thermodynamics [message #273447 is a reply to message #273437] |
Tue, 10 March 2015 07:35 |
midlf
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Well I took thermo classes but don't specifically remember the laws or how many there are. Between thermo and fluid dynamics I wouldn't even attempt to make a well founded argument.
However I also had an engine that just would not come up to temp. Upon investigation the problem was not theoretical.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/thermostat/p57384-thermostat-failure.html
This was replaced with a Robertshaw 330.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thermodynamics [message #273715 is a reply to message #273265] |
Sun, 15 March 2015 02:05 |
djeffers
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emerystora wrote on Sat, 07 March 2015 13:25I am tired of hearing things being misattributed to the laws of Thermodynamics.
I wonder how many readers even know how many laws there are or can tell us what they are without looking it up on the Internet.
Probably very few, if any.
There have been so many falsehoods and misinterpretations of this that I am done with it and will not longer post anything to the Thermostat thread.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
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Well Emory,
I've got no idea what transpired on the thermostat thread.
But you are correct, sir. When I first read this post I knew immediately that I could not recite or hardly even recall the first and second laws of thermodynamics or remember which one was which.
But what I did immediately recall was that after the first and second laws had been established, the theoreticians realized there was something more fundamental; what to call this more fundamental principle? The Zeroth law of thermodynamics of course, because zero comes before 1 and 2.
If the best minds in the field can overlook a fundamental principle for a time, we can all take a pass on not recalling the 1st and 2nd laws.
Just prior to writing this, I reviewed the 1st, 2nd and Zeroth laws and still, only a few minutes later, it's the Zeroth law that easily comes to mind; I guess it's the story that I like.
And to be a bit  contrarian , in the final analysis, or maybe the zeroth analysis, doesn't it all come down to thermodynamics?
We do look forward to meeting you someday. We have long admired your practical methods of solving problems.
With the very best regards,
Don and Susan Jeffers
78 Eleganza II, 500 Cad EFI
In thermal equilibrium for some time now; 12000ZZZZZZZZZZ
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