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Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270704] Wed, 28 January 2015 23:37 Go to next message
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Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are good to go. That being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers today. I asked if they inspected my wheel bearings and found they needed to be repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their answer was a definitive NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a tendency for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being thrown all over making a terrible mess.
What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And does the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?

Thanks for you thoughts and comments


John 1976 GMC Eleganza II - "The Never Ending Story" Partial Restoration - a work in progress 455cc NW Ohio Member of the GMCMI, GMC Great Lakers Motorhome Club, GMCES and Dixielanders
Re: Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270709 is a reply to message #270704] Thu, 29 January 2015 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pryzl1 wrote on Wed, 28 January 2015 21:37
Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are good to go. That being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers today. I asked if they inspected my wheel bearings and found they needed to be repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their answer was a definitive NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a tendency for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being thrown all over making a terrible mess.
What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And does the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?

Thanks for you thoughts and comments


I have done my bearings twice with the puller and once more to put on the zerk fittings. I found the process difficult... It takes a lot of pressure to shove things apart and together. Apparently we didn't get it pressed enough of torque sufficiently because I lost a bearing... It was not making noise but was so loose it almost fell apart when removed. Ruined the hub.

I have greased it once with the zerks. Love it. You don't want to over do..you really are just pushing any crud that is working into the back of the bearing out as I understand it. Go until a little shoves out, wipe it down and tighten it back down.


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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270711 is a reply to message #270704] Thu, 29 January 2015 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Read here
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK

Erf

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015, John Pryzbylek wrote:

> Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the
> bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are good to go. That
> being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers today.
> I asked if they inspected my wheel bearings and found they needed to be
> repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their
> answer was a definitive NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a
> tendency
> for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being thrown
> all over making a terrible mess.
> What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And does
> the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?
>
> Thanks for you thoughts and comments
> --
> John
> 1976 GMC Eleganza II - "The Never Ending Story"
> Partial Restoration - a work in progress
> 455cc
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270714 is a reply to message #270704] Thu, 29 January 2015 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

Well I'm going to disagree with the GMC vendor.

I have them on Double Trouble and The Blue Streak and they work just fine. The set I got for Double Trouble came from Dave Lenzi
with the zerk and serviced with Mobil 1. I was going to change over to Synpower but after the first time I greased them I realized
there is an advantage with Mobil 1. It is bright red. When you grease the bearings you remove the CV joint nut and push the CV joint
inwards as far as it will go. As you put fresh grease in you will note it is a ruddy brown color, keep greasing until you see nice
bright red grease coming out and you know you've got the old grease out. Wipe off all the excess and slowly pull the CV joint axle
towards the outside but stop before the land on the CV joint comes in contact with the seal and wipe everything down again. Pull the
CV joint axle all the way out and finger tighten the nut. Go back and clean the gap between the seal and the CV joint housing with
Q-Tips until there's nothing on them.

Bob's your Uncle - your bearings are good for another 25K! Actually more as you're using Mobil 1.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: John Pryzbylek

Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are
good to go. That being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers today. I asked if they inspected my wheel
bearings and found they needed to be repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their answer was a definitive
NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a tendency for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being thrown all
over making a terrible mess.
What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And does the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?

Thanks for you thoughts and comments
--
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270718 is a reply to message #270711] Thu, 29 January 2015 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The mechanic I used, who still has his own GMC and worked on them "in
the day" added the fitting for his coach and, as he told me, put in just
enough to do the job. He always said to squeeze lightly by hand and do
it slowly. When you see it starting to ooze quit.

Byron Songer
Kissimmee, FL

On 2015-01-29 03:02, gene Fisher wrote:
> Read here
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK
>
> Erf
>
> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015, John Pryzbylek
> wrote:
>
>> Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the
>> bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are good to go.
>> That
>> being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers
>> today.
>> I asked if they inspected my wheel bearings and found they needed to
>> be
>> repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their
>> answer was a definitive NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a
>> tendency
>> for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being
>> thrown
>> all over making a terrible mess.
>> What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And
>> does
>> the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?
>>
>> Thanks for you thoughts and comments
>> --
>> John
>> 1976 GMC Eleganza II - "The Never Ending Story"
>> Partial Restoration - a work in progress
>> 455cc
>> NW Ohio
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270732 is a reply to message #270718] Thu, 29 January 2015 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

The zerks on your hub & knuckle is the best mod for the front end. Dan Lenzi did a long term test on greasing the bearings unusually once a year. He has run the set on his coach 100K miles with out issues and they still look good. This is the short cut to the album. I have them on the stretch coach and on the Avion in the shop.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4641-greasing-front-bearings-with-zerk-fittings.html

You best bet is to get a set of hubs from Dave and your cost will be about the same as having yours rebuilt if they are not worn in the inside. Dave also cuts grease release grooves in the bearings.

J.R. Wright
30' Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Location in Tucson

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:46 AM, bsonger@songerconsulting.net wrote:
>
> The mechanic I used, who still has his own GMC and worked on them "in the day" added the fitting for his coach and, as he told me, put in just enough to do the job. He always said to squeeze lightly by hand and do it slowly. When you see it starting to ooze quit.
>
> Byron Songer
> Kissimmee, FL
>
> On 2015-01-29 03:02, gene Fisher wrote:
>> Read here
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK
>> Erf
>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015, John Pryzbylek wrote:
>>> Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the
>>> bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are good to go. That
>>> being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers today.
>>> I asked if they inspected my wheel bearings and found they needed to be
>>> repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their
>>> answer was a definitive NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a
>>> tendency
>>> for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being thrown
>>> all over making a terrible mess.
>>> What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And does
>>> the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?
>>> Thanks for you thoughts and comments
>>> --
>>> John
>>> 1976 GMC Eleganza II - "The Never Ending Story"
>>> Partial Restoration - a work in progress
>>> 455cc
>>> NW Ohio
>>> Member of the GMCMI, GMC Great Lakers Motor Home Club and Dixielanders
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270734 is a reply to message #270732] Thu, 29 January 2015 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The relief cuts in the bearing races are needed to allow grease to flow throughout the bearing. Don't bother with the grease fittings if you don't grind the passages in the races.

Todd Sullivan

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:03 AM, John Wright wrote:
>
> John,
>
> The zerks on your hub & knuckle is the best mod for the front end. Dan Lenzi did a long term test on greasing the bearings unusually once a year. He has run the set on his coach 100K miles with out issues and they still look good. This is the short cut to the album. I have them on the stretch coach and on the Avion in the shop.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4641-greasing-front-bearings-with-zerk-fittings.html
>
> You best bet is to get a set of hubs from Dave and your cost will be about the same as having yours rebuilt if they are not worn in the inside. Dave also cuts grease release grooves in the bearings.
>
> J.R. Wright
> 30' Buskirk Stretch
> Michigan
> On Location in Tucson
>
>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:46 AM, bsonger@songerconsulting.net wrote:
>>
>> The mechanic I used, who still has his own GMC and worked on them "in the day" added the fitting for his coach and, as he told me, put in just enough to do the job. He always said to squeeze lightly by hand and do it slowly. When you see it starting to ooze quit.
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> Kissimmee, FL
>>
>>> On 2015-01-29 03:02, gene Fisher wrote:
>>> Read here
>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK
>>> Erf
>>>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015, John Pryzbylek wrote:
>>>> Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the
>>>> bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are good to go. That
>>>> being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers today.
>>>> I asked if they inspected my wheel bearings and found they needed to be
>>>> repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their
>>>> answer was a definitive NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a
>>>> tendency
>>>> for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being thrown
>>>> all over making a terrible mess.
>>>> What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And does
>>>> the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?
>>>> Thanks for you thoughts and comments
>>>> --
>>>> John
>>>> 1976 GMC Eleganza II - "The Never Ending Story"
>>>> Partial Restoration - a work in progress
>>>> 455cc
>>>> NW Ohio
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270742 is a reply to message #270734] Thu, 29 January 2015 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are the grooves in the race or the spacer?
Terry
On Jan 29, 2015 9:47 AM, "Todd Sullivan" wrote:

> The relief cuts in the bearing races are needed to allow grease to flow
> throughout the bearing. Don't bother with the grease fittings if you don't
> grind the passages in the races.
>
> Todd Sullivan
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
>
>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:03 AM, John Wright wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> The zerks on your hub & knuckle is the best mod for the front end. Dan
> Lenzi did a long term test on greasing the bearings unusually once a year.
> He has run the set on his coach 100K miles with out issues and they still
> look good. This is the short cut to the album. I have them on the stretch
> coach and on the Avion in the shop.
>>
>>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4641-greasing-front-bearings-with-zerk-fittings.html
>>
>> You best bet is to get a set of hubs from Dave and your cost will be
> about the same as having yours rebuilt if they are not worn in the inside.
> Dave also cuts grease release grooves in the bearings.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>> 30' Buskirk Stretch
>> Michigan
>> On Location in Tucson
>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:46 AM, bsonger@songerconsulting.net wrote:
>>>
>>> The mechanic I used, who still has his own GMC and worked on them "in
> the day" added the fitting for his coach and, as he told me, put in just
> enough to do the job. He always said to squeeze lightly by hand and do it
> slowly. When you see it starting to ooze quit.
>>>
>>> Byron Songer
>>> Kissimmee, FL
>>>
>>>> On 2015-01-29 03:02, gene Fisher wrote:
>>>> Read here
>>>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK
>>>> Erf
>>>> > On Wednesday, January 28, 2015, John Pryzbylek
> wrote:
>>>> > Having had my coach for 3+ years and not knowing the condition of the
>>>> > bearings I need to have them inspected and insure they are good to
> go. That
>>>> > being said, I spoke with one of the GMC suppliers / service centers
> today.
>>>> > I asked if they inspected my wheel bearings and found they needed to
> be
>>>> > repaired or replaced would they add the zerk grease fittings. Their
>>>> > answer was a definitive NO. Their reasoning was that that there is a
>>>> > tendency
>>>> > for owners to over grease the bearings resulting in grease being
> thrown
>>>> > all over making a terrible mess.
>>>> > What are the pros and cons of adding zeks to the wheel bearings? And
> does
>>>> > the group favor wheel bearings with or without the zerks?
>>>> > Thanks for you thoughts and comments
>>>> > --
>>>> > John
>>>> > 1976 GMC Eleganza II - "The Never Ending Story"
>>>> > Partial Restoration - a work in progress
>>>> > 455cc
>>>> > NW Ohio
>>>> > Member of the GMCMI, GMC Great Lakers Motor Home Club and Dixielanders
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270744 is a reply to message #270742] Thu, 29 January 2015 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terrance Boyd wrote on Thu, 29 January 2015 13:11
Are the grooves in the race or the spacer?
Terry
Spacer

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5641/loose_set_showing_spacer.JPG
Re: Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270745 is a reply to message #270704] Thu, 29 January 2015 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Groves are in the spacers NOT in the races or bearings. I'm surprised that a vendor would tell you that adding the zirk to the front knuckle would not be good. Even if you do overdue it with grease, the worse that extra grease can do is splatter on the undercarriage and knuckle...just adding to the anticorrosion. By installing zirks on the knuckles, along with groves or drilling holes in the spacer, you eliminate the need to take the knuckles part every 25K miles. Each time you take those knuckles apart, and press the races out then back in, you do more damage to the knuckle. The only inconvenient part of the operation is having to loosen the axle nut, remove the front wheel, and push the axle in before applying grease. If you don't do this, the hydraulic pressure of the grease going in will displace the inner seal. By pushing the axle in, it allows the excess grease to exit the knuckle between the minor diameter of the axle and the seal, therefore not displacing the seal. IMO, if you are going to take the knuckles/bearings apart, do it right once, and don't worry about it for the next 100K. JMHO

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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270754 is a reply to message #270745] Thu, 29 January 2015 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep spacer. My bad.

Todd Sullivan

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Larry wrote:
>
> Groves are in the spacers NOT in the races or bearings. I'm surprised that a vendor would tell you that adding the zirk to the front knuckle would
> not be good. Even if you do overdue it with grease, the worse that extra grease can do is splatter on the undercarriage and knuckle...just adding to
> the anticorrosion. By installing zirks on the knuckles, along with groves or drilling holes in the spacer, you eliminate the need to take the
> knuckles part every 25K miles. Each time you take those knuckles apart, and press the races out then back in, you do more damage to the knuckle. The
> only inconvenient part of the operation is having to loosen the axle nut, remove the front wheel, and push the axle in before applying grease. If you
> don't do this, the hydraulic pressure of the grease going in will displace the inner seal. By pushing the axle in, it allows the excess grease to exit
> the knuckle between the minor diameter of the axle and the seal, therefore not displacing the seal. IMO, if you are going to take the
> knuckles/bearings apart, do it right once, and don't worry about it for the next 100K. JMHO
> --
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Re: Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270765 is a reply to message #270745] Thu, 29 January 2015 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry wrote on Thu, 29 January 2015 14:47
Groves are in the spacers NOT in the races or bearings. I'm surprised that a vendor would tell you that adding the zirk to the front knuckle would not be good. Even if you do overdue it with grease, the worse that extra grease can do is splatter on the undercarriage and knuckle...just adding to the anticorrosion. By installing zirks on the knuckles, along with groves or drilling holes in the spacer, you eliminate the need to take the knuckles part every 25K miles. Each time you take those knuckles apart, and press the races out then back in, you do more damage to the knuckle. The only inconvenient part of the operation is having to loosen the axle nut, remove the front wheel, and push the axle in before applying grease. If you don't do this, the hydraulic pressure of the grease going in will displace the inner seal. By pushing the axle in, it allows the excess grease to exit the knuckle between the minor diameter of the axle and the seal, therefore not displacing the seal. IMO, if you are going to take the knuckles/bearings apart, do it right once, and don't worry about it for the next 100K. JMHO

Larry,

By and large, I agree. Grease is always cheaper than parts.
Maybe the vendor that advised against has seen too many seals blown out with a grease gun.
The real purpose of the seal on a rolling bearing is not to keep the grease in, that is easy, but it is to keep the other stuff out.
I discovered as a result of an operator caused failure that most people don't know that a grease gun - your typical hand held grease gun - is usually good for 10,000 psi. There is no normal grease seal that can stand up to that.

I am hoping to zerks in my front hubs soon.

Matt


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Re: Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270790 is a reply to message #270765] Thu, 29 January 2015 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How the heck do you over grease a bearing?

There is a potential to blow out the seal if you don't push the CV joint back, but thats not too much grease, just not enough following directions.

Also remember if you seperate the bearings you should replace them as you've probably ruined them


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Re: Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270791 is a reply to message #270765] Thu, 29 January 2015 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Thu, 29 January 2015 17:33
Larry wrote on Thu, 29 January 2015 14:47
Groves are in the spacers NOT in the races or bearings. I'm surprised that a vendor would tell you that adding the zirk to the front knuckle would not be good. Even if you do overdue it with grease, the worse that extra grease can do is splatter on the undercarriage and knuckle...just adding to the anticorrosion. By installing zirks on the knuckles, along with groves or drilling holes in the spacer, you eliminate the need to take the knuckles part every 25K miles. Each time you take those knuckles apart, and press the races out then back in, you do more damage to the knuckle. The only inconvenient part of the operation is having to loosen the axle nut, remove the front wheel, and push the axle in before applying grease. If you don't do this, the hydraulic pressure of the grease going in will displace the inner seal. By pushing the axle in, it allows the excess grease to exit the knuckle between the minor diameter of the axle and the seal, therefore not displacing the seal. IMO, if you are going to take the knuckles/bearings apart, do it right once, and don't worry about it for the next 100K. JMHO

Larry,

By and large, I agree. Grease is always cheaper than parts.
Maybe the vendor that advised against has seen too many seals blown out with a grease gun.
The real purpose of the seal on a rolling bearing is not to keep the grease in, that is easy, but it is to keep the other stuff out.
I discovered as a result of an operator caused failure that most people don't know that a grease gun - your typical hand held grease gun - is usually good for 10,000 psi. There is no normal grease seal that can stand up to that.

I am hoping to zerks in my front hubs soon.

Matt

Matt,
Yup, in complete agreement.


Larry Smile
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Menomonie, WI.
Re: Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270794 is a reply to message #270704] Thu, 29 January 2015 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the comments and links. I'm aware of Dave Lenzi's bearings and wanted to discuss the subject with him but I didn't want to bother him since he has other things on his plate that are significantly more important than my wheel bearings!

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Re: Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270802 is a reply to message #270794] Thu, 29 January 2015 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I don't upgrade to the 1 ton front end I will definitely go with the grease fittings. I couldn't imagine rebuilding the knuckles with out putting the fittings in. Could you put the zerk fittings in without pulling the hubs?

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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270807 is a reply to message #270802] Fri, 30 January 2015 04:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Read here
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK
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On Thursday, January 29, 2015, Scott Nutter wrote:

> If I don't upgrade to the 1 ton front end I will definitely go with the
> grease fittings. I couldn't imagine rebuilding the knuckles with out putting
> the fittings in. Could you put the zerk fittings in without pulling the
> hubs?
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings - with or without zerks? [message #270849 is a reply to message #270790] Fri, 30 January 2015 20:19 Go to previous message
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Keith,

If you fill the bearings completely with grease and then pull the CV joint axle back into the hub quickly in theory you could force
the seal out.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p32480-knuckle-cross-section.html

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How the heck do you over grease a bearing?

There is a potential to blow out the seal if you don't push the CV joint back, but thats not too much grease, just not enough
following directions.

Also remember if you seperate the bearings you should replace them as you've probably ruined them
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