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Sat, 24 January 2015 10:29  |
Tom Whitton
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This is a question for Rob and other Australian GMC owners. Is it still a law that older motorhomes driven in Australia must have right hand drive?
I just finished an article about an Australian gentleman's '56 T-bird with stock left-hand drive. According to the article Australian laws have changed and now all cars 25 years or older to remain left-hand drive. The sentence specifically says "cars". Are motorhomes included?
Tom Whitton
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Australian left-hand drive [message #270301 is a reply to message #270298] |
Sat, 24 January 2015 11:53  |
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I asked Rob about that one time and he pointed out one interesting problem. Driving while sitting on the wrong side of the vehicle is doable, but can you imagine trying to pass a vehicle the same side or larger without being able to see to see on down the road first. Being on the wrong side of the vehicle does present some unexpected problems. In a smaller (narrower) vehicle the problem is not as pronounced.
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Australian left-hand drive [message #270304 is a reply to message #270301] |
Sat, 24 January 2015 12:20 |
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Ken,
> [..]Driving while sitting on the wrong side of the vehicle is doable,
> but can you imagine trying to pass a vehicle the same side or larger
> without being able to see to see on down the road first. .
As I've said before: Driving on the wrong side never posses a problem.
Just look the past the vehicle in front on the other side. Even when
driving a vehicle with the steering wheel on the correct side I more
often than not, look past the vehicle in front on the passenger side.
Just wait for the correct curve :)
An even safer way is: Do what I did on my travel through the US: Do not
overtake :D
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Sat, 24 January 2015 13:33 |
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Tom Whitton wrote on Sun, 25 January 2015 02:29This is a question for Rob and other Australian GMC owners. Is it still a law that older motorhomes driven in Australia must have right hand drive?
I just finished an article about an Australian gentleman's '56 T-bird with stock left-hand drive. According to the article Australian laws have changed and now all cars 25 years or older to remain left-hand drive. The sentence specifically says "cars". Are motorhomes included?
i am currently going thru this situation at the moment. i live in Queensland and our laws are that cars over 30 years old can be kept left hand drive but must meet the Australian Design Rules that applied at the date of manufacture. in my 71 Caddillac this required me to change headlamps to right hand orientation seat belts to meet ADR separate brake and turn signals to work independently.
as for the GMC if the gross vehicle mass is under 4.5 tons then this is classed as a vehicle that can be driven on a regular drivers licence so it can stay LHD. i still have to meet the ADR'S appliccable to my year of manufacture 1996. my enginneer has saidd he will give me a modification plate if i can get the unladen weight under 4 tons this should be achevable as when we shipped it over its shipping wheight was 4.1 tons. we will then register it for 2 people. i dont plan on overtaking that often and when i do my copilot will be my eyes.
Trevor
Brisbane Australia
Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores)
71 Cadillac Eldo Convert
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Australian left-hand drive [message #270321 is a reply to message #270298] |
Sat, 24 January 2015 17:15 |
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Peter, will one State accept the rules of another? i.e. if you tag the coach where it's legal as LHD, can you then operate it in a State where it would be required to be converted to RHD as long as you're just passing through and not a resident?
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Australian left-hand drive [message #270337 is a reply to message #270307] |
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G'day,
The Blue Streak was registered in NSW before I bought it and that was one of the motivating factors to purchase it.
If you'd like to see what was done here's a link:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6499-the-blue-streak-rhd-conversion.html
I didn't have to deal with the process of changing it to RHD which cost the PO $12,000 AUD. However, to register it here in NSW I
have been told that the door should have been moved over to the other side. The PO told me NEVER to let it run out of registration,
he didn't tell me why but I have kept it registered since I've owned it because I believe someone got paid off to look the other way
regarding the door.
Also the Australian Design Rules require a motorhome to have stranded wire rated for 240 VAC. I have a copy of the certification of
the system from a licensed electrician; however, the solid OEM GMC wire was not replaced.
I responded to Peer and Sammy separately but decided to cut and paste Tom's, Trevor's, and Peter's responses below and intersperse
my comments in CAPS. I'm NOT shouting it's only for clarity.
I reckon all this is more information than ANYBODY wanted or needed! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Bailey
Driving a LHD GMC in Australia is not that difficult and you need to pass others rarely as most pass you and for sure the big rigs
on the highways will be going quicker than you, I would suggest it would be similar in the US if you had a 26 foot RHD vehicle.
I AGREE WITH THAT.
The worst thing that occurs and it happens frequently with devastating results is drivers from other countries driving on the wrong
side for that country that they are visiting and have the opposite road direction.
YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE LOOK ON THE FACE OF THE LADY IN OCEANSIDE CALIFORNIA WHEN I PULLED OUT OF THE SEARS PARKING LOT AND DROVE
DOWN THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD STRAIGHT AT HER! OBVIOUSLY I REALIZED WHAT I HAD DONE AND THERE WAS NO ONE TO MY LEFT IN THE CORRECT
LANE AND I WAS ABLE TO PULL OVER IN TIME SAFELY.
I have been guilty but usually when there is nobody on the road you tend to easily loose concentration momentarily and find
yourself on the wrong side. My most embarrassing moments are when there is always a lot of people around in the US I will as the
driver get into the car and find there is no steering wheel Oh! Oh! I have got in the right side and as it seems everybody is
looking at you so I promptly fish around in the glove box and then get out, you see I meant to do that.
I WALK TO THE WRONG SIDE OF THE CAR IN AUSTRALIA AND THE USA!
Peter Bailey
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Bailey
Johnny,
If you are passing through or spending time on vacation in a state that has different rules then that is acceptable. I know of
persons who have registered their motorhomes (SOB) in other states where the rules suit them better by using a friend or family
location as the place where the vehicle is usually kept although the motorhome never resides there but in the state that they live.
Being that motorhomes are not usually frequently on the road and when they are they could well be in another state therefore it is
hard to police if the persons are in fact doing the wrong thing. Like everything you do that is not entirely legal you are okay
until some one dobs you in. The moral of that is keep you mouth shut and don't tell what you might be doing illegal.
THERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT PETER HASN'T MENTIONED, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET PULLED OVER BY A COP AND HE LOOKS AT YOUR SOUTH
AUSTRALIAN DRIVERS LICENCE AND THE MOTORHOME IS REGISTERED TO YOU IN ANOTHER STATE? WORSE YET IS YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND THE
INSURANCE COMPANY DISCOVERS THAT YOU LIED WHEN YOU TOLD THEM THE MOTORHOME WAS GARAGED IN NSW AND YOU LIVE IN SA!
I have a LHD Jaguars 1988 XJS convertible which has to be converted to RHD to register in my state but if I knew some one that I
could use their address in Western Australia (and some other states) I could register it in their state and use it in my state (not
entirely legal). The only problem with doing what I just said and also applies to the motorhomes I mentioned those states have road
worthy inspections required each year where the vehicle has to be inspected so that would mean you would have to drive to that
inspection each year and usually that is quite a distance. Like most things there is corruption if you know some one that does
inspections for that state it is easy to spend a little extra (graft) and have an inspection notice filled out and the vehicle has
not been viewed. Trust me I could have done it with our GMC for ongoing registration in Rob's state of NSW and it would have been a
lot easier and cheaper than the direction I went down in our state of SA, initially the cost of registration for a year was $2800
once I complied with our state rules
Peter Bailey
IN NSW ANY VEHICLE THAT IS OVER THREE YEARS OLD MUST BE INSPECTED ONCE A YEAR. OUR 2003 TRIBUTE, 1975 AVION, 1968 VW SQUAREBACK,
1988 HARLEY, AND 2003 DUCATI ARE HAVE BEEN INSPECTED EVERY BY A MATE OF MINE THAT RUNS A GARAGE HE'S NEVER CHECKED ANY OF THEM. HE
KNOWS THAT I WOULD NOT DRIVE A VEHICLE THAT ISN'T SAFE. THERE IS A BRAKE CHECK BOX THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE VEHICLE WHEN YOU
STOP HARD TO TEST THE BRAKES. HE PICKS UP THE BOX, TURNS IT ON AND SHAKES IT LEFT TO RIGHT AND OUT COMES A TAPE OF A PASSED BRAKE
TEST.
HEAVY VEHICLE REGISTRATION FOR THE BLUE STREAK IS $940 PER YEAR PLUS ANOTHER $767 FOR THIRD PARTY LIABILITY INSURANCE. THE THIRD
PARTY LIABILITY INSURANCE ONLY COVERS ME FOR ANY INJURY I MAY CAUSE TO A PERSON. IT DOES NOT COVER THE DAMAGE I DO TO THEIR VEHICLE.
TO COVER DAMAGE TO THEIR VEHICLES I NEED ANOTHER POLICY AND THAT COSTS $750 MORE. SO ALL UP IT COSTS ME $2457 PER YEAR.
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Bailey
Tom,
State rules for LHD cars vary in Australia some states have a rolling over 30 years old can be driven LHD in the state of South
Australia (were I live) only vehicles prior to 1st January 1979 can be driven LHD.
THANKS, I DON'T REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING THAT TO ME BEFORE BUT IT PROBABLY WAS A CASE OF CRS!
As for vehicles over 4.5 tons (which the GMC motorhome is in that category) they are rated as heavy vehicles and you must have the
appropriate drivers license in SA they can be driven LHD.
SAME FOR NEW SOUTH WALES (NSW) RE THE DRIVERS LICENSE, HOWEVER, ANY AND ALL VEHICLES OVER 4.5 TONNES CANNOT BE REGISTERED WITH LHD.
THERE IS PROVISION TO DRIVE LHD VEHICLES LESS THAN 30 YEARS OLD ON A TEMPORARY REGISTRATION FOR 1 YEAR; I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THAT
INCLUDES VEHICLES OVER 4.5 TONNES. BTW WE'RE TALKING METRIC TONNES!
Some other States if the vehicle is over 4.5 tons then they have to be converted to RHD. Some states will allow the heavy vehicles
which were originally factory plated as being over 4.5 tons (GMC motorhome) if you can bring them under 4.5 tons by removing
unnecessary weight (110v Onan, steel wheels, LPG cylinder and some interior all gone) then the authorities will re rate the vehicle
and a car license is all that is necessary.
I AGREE, HOWEVER, IF ONE INSTALLS A 240 VAC / 50 HZ GENERATOR, TWO BBQ BOTTLES, AN INTERIOR AND THEN GET INTO AN ACCIDENT YOU COULD
HAVE A PROBLEM IF THE INSURANCE COMPANY REQUIRES YOU TO WEIGH THE VEHICLE AND IT TURNS OUT TO BE OVER 4.5 TONNES. I REALIZE THAT'S
REMOTE BUT IT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
In my case in SA to have Our GMC re rated and accepted by the authorities I was told I would have to get General Motors to re rate
ours. Does anyone think that GM would come to that I definitely know that would not happen?
YOU NEVER KNOW, MAYBE TO PROMOTE AUSTRALIAN - AMERICAN UNITY GM WOULD SEND SOMEONE! ;-)
To register LHD cars for use in Australia is not a simple process there are a lot of rules to comply with for the year make as
Trevor mentioned called ADRs all of which are checked and signed off by an automotive engineer and then checked and signed off on by
the state authorities.
IN NSW THE AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEER MUST HAVE A LICENSE FROM THE ROADS AND MARITIME SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
All of this extra work makes for an expensive exercise not forgetting the original purchase price and the expensive shipping cost to
Australia.
EXACTLY, WHAT HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN IS SOMEONE FROM AUSTRALIA SEES GMC'S FOR SALE IN THE USA FOR CHEAP PRICES AND FIGGER THAT THEY CAN
IMPORT ONE CHEAPLY FOR THEIR OWN USE AND THEN FLOG IT AND MAKE A FEW BUCKS. I HAVE SPOKEN TO A FAIR FEW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THIS
AND WHEN I EXPLAIN IT ALL I NEVER GET A RETURN CALL.
Peter Bailey
-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor Pordage
I am currently going thru this situation at the moment. I live in Queensland and our laws are that cars over 30 years old can be
kept left hand drive but must meet the Australian Design Rules that applied at the date of manufacture.
AUSTRALIAN DESIGN RULES APPLY TO ALL STATES AS THEY ARE FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
HTTP://WWW.INFRASTRUCTURE.GOV.AU/ROADS/MOTOR/DESIGN/
In my 71 Cadillac this required me to change headlamps to right hand orientation seat belts to meet ADR separate brake and turn
signals to work independently.
ON MY DAD'S 1968 TYPE III VW SQUAREBACK I HAD TO:
1) CHANGE THE HEADLIGHTS
2) INSTALL PARKING LIGHTS
3) CHANGE THE REAR LIGHTS TO EUROPEAN MODELS WITH YELLOW TURN SIGNAL LENSES
As for the GMC if the gross vehicle mass is under 4.5 tons then this is classed as a vehicle that can be driven on a regular drivers
licence so it can stay LHD. I still have to meet the ADR'S applicable to my year of manufacture 1996.
1996? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT SINCE YOUR GMC WAS MANUFACTURED IN THE 1970'S.
My engineer has said he will give me a modification plate if I can get the unladen weight under 4 tons this should be achievable as
when we shipped it over its shipping weight was 4.1 tons.
I'M SURPRISED BY THAT SHIPPING WEIGHT AS THE BLUE STREAK WEIGHED IN AT 4.5 TONNES.
We will then register it for 2 people. I don't plan on overtaking that often and when I do my copilot will be my eyes.
I RESPECT YOUR DECISION, HOWEVER, I AM GLAD THAT THE BLUE STREAK WAS CONVERTED TO RHD BEFORE I BOUGHT IT. I GET A FAIR FEW CALLS
FROM PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IMPORTING GMC'S AS JIMB AND JIMK POINT THEM IN MY DIRECTION. ONE OF THEM TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO LEAVE IT
LHD AND INSTALL A CAMERA ON THE PASSENGER SIDE MIRROR THAT FACED FORWARD SO HE COULD SEE WHEN IT WAS SAFE TO PASS. I DIDN'T COMMENT
BUT WONDERED TO MYSELF HOW YOU WATCH THE VEHICLE AHEAD OF YOU AND THE CAMERA AT THE SAME TIME. I ALSO THINK IT MIGHT BE ILLEGAL
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE A TV SCREEN THAT THE DRIVER CAN SEE.
--
Trevor
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Whitton
This is a question for Rob and other Australian GMC owners. Is it still a law that older motorhomes driven in Australia must have
right hand drive?
I just finished an article about an Australian gentleman's '56 T-bird with stock left-hand drive. According to the article
Australian laws have changed and now all cars 25 years or older to remain left-hand drive. The sentence specifically says "cars".
Are motorhomes included?
HERE'S A LINK TO THE LAW REGARDING THIS SUBJECT IN NSW:
HTTP://WWW.RMS.NSW.GOV.AU/DOCUMENTS/ROADS/SAFETY-RULES/STANDARDS/VSI-40-REV1.PDF
IF YOU CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW YOU WILL FIND MY DAD'S 1968 TYPE III VW THAT I HAVE HERE IN SYDNEY:
HTTP://WWW.GMCMHPHOTOS.COM/PHOTOS/G5317-DAD-27S-1968-T-3-SQUAREBACK-VW.HTML
IT HAS BEEN LEFT LHD AS IT IS OVER 30 YEARS OLD
Tom Whitton
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Sat, 24 January 2015 21:32 |
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Well, pretty much anyplace youcan turn right on red here, you can turn left on red >from a one way street to a one way street< which makes sense.
There's a shop in Atlanta where you can take your car and a hundred and it will be smog tested and passed, although that's getting harder to do.
I worked with a guy who had Florida plates on his car. He owned an acre of swamp in the Florida Panhandle, and religiously paid tax on it. He said it paid put in less than three years over registering the car (McLaren GT) in Atlanta/Fulton County.
There's always a way.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Australian left-hand drive [message #270357 is a reply to message #270307] |
Sun, 25 January 2015 01:09 |
Adrien G.
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cadelec wrote on Sat, 24 January 2015 13:33Tom Whitton wrote on Sun, 25 January 2015 02:29This is a question for Rob and other Australian GMC owners. Is it still a law that older motorhomes driven in Australia must have right hand drive?
I just finished an article about an Australian gentleman's '56 T-bird with stock left-hand drive. According to the article Australian laws have changed and now all cars 25 years or older to remain left-hand drive. The sentence specifically says "cars". Are motorhomes included?
i am currently going thru this situation at the moment. i live in Queensland and our laws are that cars over 30 years old can be kept left hand drive but must meet the Australian Design Rules that applied at the date of manufacture. in my 71 Caddillac this required me to change headlamps to right hand orientation seat belts to meet ADR separate brake and turn signals to work independently.
as for the GMC if the gross vehicle mass is under 4.5 tons then this is classed as a vehicle that can be driven on a regular drivers licence so it can stay LHD. i still have to meet the ADR'S appliccable to my year of manufacture 1996. my enginneer has saidd he will give me a modification plate if i can get the unladen weight under 4 tons this should be achevable as when we shipped it over its shipping wheight was 4.1 tons. we will then register it for 2 people. i dont plan on overtaking that often and when i do my copilot will be my eyes.
My copilot will be my eyes.
For non copilot driving.
Any thought of using a camera mounted on the right outside mirror facing forward, with remote (wired or wireless?) controlled zoom and a lens rock guard.
Viewable on the backup camera monitor on the dash.
It would require less drift to the right to see around the vehicle in front. With the zoom, the driver could look for a good distance down the oncoming lane.
Add a HD VDR and you can save video of your road travel adventures.
I'm thinking of adapting a camera for the right mirror, for tight places. Might just save wiping out that costly (Velvac)mirror, and/or the body repair.
FWIW
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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Adrien,
The following was copied out of one of my responses to this subject:
I GET A FAIR FEW CALLS FROM PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IMPORTING GMC'S AS JIMB AND JIMK POINT THEM IN MY DIRECTION. ONE OF THEM TOLD ME HE
WAS GOING TO LEAVE IT LHD AND INSTALL A CAMERA ON THE PASSENGER SIDE MIRROR THAT FACED FORWARD SO HE COULD SEE WHEN IT WAS SAFE TO
PASS. I DIDN'T COMMENT BUT WONDERED TO MYSELF HOW YOU WATCH THE VEHICLE AHEAD OF YOU AND THE CAMERA AT THE SAME TIME. I ALSO THINK
IT MIGHT BE ILLEGAL BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU CAN'T HAVE A TV SCREEN THAT THE DRIVER CAN SEE WHEN THE VEHICLE IS GOING FORWARD.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Adrien Genesoto
Any thought of using a camera mounted on the right outside mirror facing forward, with remote (wired or wireless?) controlled zoom
and a lens rock guard. Viewable on the backup camera monitor on the dash. It would require less drift to the right to see around the
vehicle in front. With the zoom, the driver could look for a good distance down the oncoming lane. Add a HD VDR and you can save
video of your road travel adventures.
I'm thinking of adapting a camera for the right mirror, for tight places. Might just save wiping out that costly (Velvac)mirror,
and/or the body repair.
FWIW
Adrien
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Johnny,
In NSW you can't turn left on red unless there is a traffic sign saying it's OK and I believe that's the same for the rest of the
states in Australia.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Johnny Bridges
Well, pretty much anyplace youcan turn right on red here, you can turn left on red >from a one way street to a one way street< which
makes sense.
There's a shop in Atlanta where you can take your car and a hundred and it will be smog tested and passed, although that's getting
harder to do.
I worked with a guy who had Florida plates on his car. He owned an acre of swamp in the Florida Panhandle, and religiously paid tax
on it. He said it paid put in less than three years over registering the car (McLaren GT) in Atlanta/Fulton County.
There's always a way.
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Australian left-hand drive [message #270374 is a reply to message #270298] |
Sun, 25 January 2015 11:32 |
Tom Whitton
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Peter,
Thanks for the information. I can imagine the problems you would have driving a large LHD vehicle on the left-hand side of the road. I can see why the laws make it hard to permit them.
Tom Whitton
26 foot updated GMC
Paducah, KY
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:15:41 -0700
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Tom,
State rules for LHD cars vary in Australia some states have a rolling over 30 years old can be driven LHD in the state of South Australia (were I
live) only vehicles prior to 1st January 1979 can be driven LHD.
As for vehicles over 4.5 tons (which the GMC motorhome is in that catergory) they are rated as heavy vehicles and you must have the appropriate
drivers license in SA they can be driven LHD. Some other States if the vehicle is over 4.5 tons then they have to be converted to RHD.
Some states will allow the heavy vehicles which were originally factory plated as being over 4.5 tons (GMC motorhome) if you can bring them under 4.5
tons by removing unnesssary weight (110v Onan,steel wheels,LPG cylinder and some interior all gone) then the authorities will re rate the vehicle and
a car license is all that is necessary.
In my case in SA to have Our GMC re rated and accepted by the authorities I was told I would have to get General Motors to re rate ours. Does anyone
think that GM would come to that I definately know that would not happen.
To register LHD cars for use in Australia is not a simple process there are a lot of rules to comply with for the year make as Trevor mentioned called
ADRs all of which are checked and signed off by an automotive engineer and then checked and signed off on by the state authorities. All of this extra
work makes for an expensive exercise not forgetting the original purchase price and the expensive shipping cost to Australia.
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)
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Ken Burton
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Tom Whitton wrote on Sun, 25 January 2015 11:32Peter,
Thanks for the information. I can imagine the problems you would have driving a large LHD vehicle on the left-hand side of the road. I can see why the laws make it hard to permit them.
Tom Whitton
26 foot updated GMC
Paducah, KY
I have done that in the Military. You are sitting up high above most of the other traffic and can see all of the road most of the time. The only problem comes when you are following another large / high vehicle.
Now driving upside down and on the wrong side of the road brings additional challenges. Especially at traffic circles. At least they speak a marginally understandable form of English down there and the non-international road signs make some sense even with the accent.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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