| [GMCnet] Latest Project - Water Tank and Bed [message #269281] |
Fri, 09 January 2015 00:35  |
kelvin
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Location: Eugene, OR
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So after owning this rig for 12 years I've finally decided to rework the
bedroom.
The bed is so high that it's difficult for me at '6'4" to climb over She
Who Goes To Bed First. It's time to lower it back down a ways. At
least a couple inches. And also redesign the glued-up, heavy mess that
was supporting the mattress. A PO had done some major work back here in
the past. It's time it gets fixed.
The most interesting thing is the "grey water tank".
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6717/010_Grey_Tank.jpg
Both sinks drain into this mass of 4" tubing. One of those big tubes
going towards the bathroom is the vent. At some point I might actually
take a whack at calculating the volume but suffice to say we don't need
more than 10 gallons. Mostly dish water over 5 days, max. I figure I
can do this same basic thing but actually make it removable instead of
all glued in. My PO loved him some Liquid Nails and fiberglass.
I would really like to see what this area looks like in an unmodified
Side-bath 230. I'm going to go my own way, because I only have so many
choices, but it would be a good thing to know.
And I'm not 100% sure this is the right water tank.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=56860
The only thing holding it in place was the various hoses. Not a single
strap holding it down. I find it hard to believe that GMC installed
them with no form of retention.
Anyway... this should take me a while. Hope to have it all back up and
running by April or so. Winter projects are just so much fun.
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] Latest Project - Water Tank and Bed [message #269287 is a reply to message #269281] |
Fri, 09 January 2015 07:26  |
Ken Henderson
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What a Rube Goldberg affair! Don't you have a grey water tank under the
coach? Maybe the PO wanted separate grey and black water tanks -- and
didn't own a jack to work underneath? Got a deal on surplus 4" PVC scraps
and fittings? Weird! I've probably done things that look just as crazy to
others. :-(
Even if there are strange things underneath, there's probably still room
all the way to the rear, right below your nightmare, for the 16g. tank used
for black water in rear bath Birchavens. Plumbing to get from the forward
black tank to the rear past such a tank might be a problem; I wound up
installing two macerators to simplify the routing.
I know you'll come up with a nifty solution..
Ken H.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 1:35 AM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> ...
>
> The most interesting thing is the "grey water tank".
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6717/010_Grey_Tank.jpg
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> Both sinks drain into this mass of 4" tubing. One of those big tubes
> going towards the bathroom is the vent. At some point I might actually
> take a whack at calculating the volume but suffice to say we don't need
> more than 10 gallons. Mostly dish water over 5 days, max. I figure I can
> do this same basic thing but actually make it removable instead of all
> glued in. My PO loved him some Liquid Nails and fiberglass.
> ...
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Latest Project - Water Tank and Bed [message #269310 is a reply to message #269308] |
Fri, 09 January 2015 12:00 |
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Hi, Kelvin.
You might wish to consider using square aluminum tubing instead of steel. I'm sure that steel would be cheaper, but I'd expect a pretty good weight saving using aluminum.
Weight burns fuel, even if it's just a small amount of weight reduced. Gasoline is not likely to remain cheap for very long.
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> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:45:19 -0800
> From: kelvin@datsuns.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Latest Project - Water Tank and Bed
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> On 1/9/2015 9:15 AM, Dan Borlase wrote:
>> Kelvin, Rather than go through a major rebuild, why not buy an appropriate step stool and place it at the base of the rear bed. That's what we do and it works well.
>
> There are other problems with this area than just the tall bed. The bed
> is kind of a "while I'm at it" side benefit.
> I can only drop it 2" or so because of the wheel well intrusion. Instead
> of a 3/4" plywood platform I can build a framework (likely 1"sq steel
> tubing) and us thinner material for the platform, too. I might get
> 2.5"! :-)
>
> It's just a mechanical nightmare under there. It needs to be fixed and
> I need a winter project.
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] Latest Project - Water Tank and Bed [message #269330 is a reply to message #269327] |
Fri, 09 January 2015 17:49 |
Dennis S
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Our 73, 23 ft, has the original rear area setting -- gaucho style -- and looks like the photos Karen has posted. The water tank had two
nylon straps but they were only held using masking tape.
Dennis
KB wrote on Fri, 09 January 2015 17:29The 73 23' we had already had been a bit hacked by the time we got it, but parts appeared to still be original.
The water tank was turned 90 degrees compared to yours, with the angled part of the tank up against the angled part of the back wall/floor.
There was evidence there might have been straps originally as some hardware was present, but the straps had been removed or maybe never installed.
The same type of tank was in both our 73 and 75, but the 75 still had heavy nylon straps holding it down across those little molded-in bumps on the top corners of the water tank.
For what it's worth, here are some pictures of the tank "as found":
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/original-details/p56862-73-23-fresh-water-tank.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/original-details/p56861-73-23-fresh-water-tank.html
I think it was mostly original since it looks a lot like the pictures of this other 73 coach:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/original-details/p53768-1973-gaucho.html
It looks like your PO cut away some of the original generator cabinet where the battery was.
Here's what ours looked like:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/original-details/p56863-73-23-top-of-generator-cabinet.html
hope this helps.
Karen
1975 26'
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] Latest Project - Water Tank and Bed [message #269348 is a reply to message #269281] |
Fri, 09 January 2015 21:23 |
cbryan
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According to the infallible internet, schedule 40 pipe holds 6.6 gallons of liquid per every ten feet. Looks like about 10 gallons there?
Pretty strong tank.
Carey
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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...forgot to say that the frame has a light platform of plywood on top.
