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Gadabout is currently offline  Gadabout   Canada
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Finally getting some time to work on the "Pawn Stars" Gadabout.
Mike, are you sure this is the easiest way to change the spark plugs ? Twisted Evil

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gadabout-ii/p56760-frame-out.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image170.jpg


Carl Harr : Driver NASCAR Pro Series #2
1978 Gadabout-Restoring
1978 Palm Beach
1976 Glenbrook
Prevost Featherlite H3-45

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Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #268466 is a reply to message #268464] Mon, 29 December 2014 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, where are you working on the coach? Looks like a race pit

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Carl wrote:
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> Finally getting some time to work on the "Pawn Stars" Gadabout.
> Mike, are you sure this is the easiest way to change the spark plugs ?
> :twisted:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gadabout-ii/p56760-frame-out.html
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> 1978 Gadabout-Restoring
> 1978 Palm Beach
> 1976 Glenbrook
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Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268470 is a reply to message #268464] Mon, 29 December 2014 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very cool. Note Carl,s signature. Makes me want to go to the races. I kind of fell away after We lost Dale Earnhardt. Still have the number 3 stickers on my cars.

1978 GMC Royal
Eastern Pennslyvania
1968 Chevrolet C20 396 Camper Special
1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #268472 is a reply to message #268470] Mon, 29 December 2014 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This looks like it's going to be a very nice restoration. Can't beat the
surroundings. I stopped watching NASCAR once they started running some
races in kilometers instead of miles. Just didn't seem right to me.

Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268490 is a reply to message #268464] Mon, 29 December 2014 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah he's only a few miles from me but what's a few comforts compared to working in the great outdoors?
Carl, what's the trick for iPad pics onto this site?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p56667-img-03581.html













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Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268491 is a reply to message #268490] Mon, 29 December 2014 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Really nice workshop, and by the looks of it you will be doing a fantastic job on your coach.

I really need a shop like that for my race cars


Len Novak, 76 Eleganza II, Las Vegas
Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268495 is a reply to message #268464] Mon, 29 December 2014 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl's shop is beautiful and a different league compared to me. I lost count how many GMC motorhomes he has now, somewhere around 6 or 8 I think!
And enough room in the shop to have all of them in there at one time and any thing (parts and tools) to fix them.
Maby if I win the lottery! Very Happy
Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268639 is a reply to message #268464] Thu, 01 January 2015 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Frame all the way out - no rust Smile - Next stop is in wash bay.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image195.jpg

Casters bolted onto bumper mounts makes moving the frame around the shop an easy process.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image194.jpg


Carl Harr : Driver NASCAR Pro Series #2
1978 Gadabout-Restoring
1978 Palm Beach
1976 Glenbrook
Prevost Featherlite H3-45
Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268654 is a reply to message #268639] Thu, 01 January 2015 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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are you going to leave it original with reconditioned parts or a 1 ton front end and disc rear conversion?

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268900 is a reply to message #268464] Sun, 04 January 2015 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Roy,

The plan is to keep the Gadabout as close to original as possible. I have been able to find NOS parts for anything that requires replacing.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gadabout-ii/p56844-image197.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/thumbs/image197.jpg


Carl Harr : Driver NASCAR Pro Series #2
1978 Gadabout-Restoring
1978 Palm Beach
1976 Glenbrook
Prevost Featherlite H3-45
Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268902 is a reply to message #268464] Sun, 04 January 2015 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl, I know it's been done before but I'd be interested in your process for lifting the body and pulling the frame out. Where did you lift and support?

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #268909 is a reply to message #268900] Sun, 04 January 2015 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,

Have you got one of these?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-mh-collectables/p47460-gadabout-belt-buckle.html

If not I'll keep my eye out for one, I had two but sold one at the GMCMI Convention in Chippewa Falls along with a few others I had
found.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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From: Carl

Hi Roy,

The plan is to keep the Gadabout as close to original as possible. I have been able to find NOS parts for anything that requires
replacing.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gadabout-ii/p56844-image197.html

Carl

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Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268910 is a reply to message #268900] Mon, 05 January 2015 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gadabout wrote on Mon, 05 January 2015 04:44
Hi Roy,

The plan is to keep the Gadabout as close to original as possible. I have been able to find NOS parts for anything that requires replacing.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gadabout-ii/p56844-image197.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/thumbs/image197.jpg



I really like to hear that, this one is to rare to mess with Smile


1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway
Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #268951 is a reply to message #268902] Tue, 06 January 2015 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Kerry;

Yes, I have seen photos of how many of the members lifted the body. Here is what I ended up doing.

We want to do some restoration to the bottom side of the coach, so it was necessary to have it both safe and high enough to work under the coach while the frame is removed.

We manufactured a front and rear support structure, each are 24" tall.

The Rear support structure was designed to saddle the coach aluminum floor channels at the rear of the coach.
Rear Saddle
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image198.jpg

Rear Support
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image203.jpg

The Front support structure saddles 3' X 4" steel tube that is installed under the two forward aluminum channels.
Front Support with removable Legs and I beam for additional lift.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image199.jpg

Removable front leg ( slides forward)

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image201.jpg


Finally wide lift device consisting of two raised bottle jacks and a 10' aluminum I-beam was built.
iBeam for lift while leg is removed
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image202.jpg

- There is enough room between the frame and body to insert a 4" X 3" X 24" Steel Tube. Installed length-wise this tube spans two of the floor channels, and a 4' tall clears the bottom of the body allowing room for a beam to be installed after the frame is lowered.
- Under the 4" X 3" tube is a saddled stand that can be removed ( a tall jack stand could also be used)
- Once the Frame is lowered from the body, the challenge is clearing the stands without having to first remove the wheels and bogie assembly.


Step 1: Raise the coach to 24" , supported by jack stands under frame.
Step 2: Install Front and Rear Support Structures
Step 3: Lower the frame (after you disconnect everything), body is now on support structure.
Step 4: Insert a 10' Beam at front between frame and coach body.
Step 5:With I-beam Lift Body 1/2" and remove front structure legs
Step 6: Roll frame out
Step 7: Reinstall front structure legs, lower front of coach 1/2 and remove I-Beam
Step 8: Connect structure supports and braces before work on bottom of coach begins

I expect you have seen this before but in case someone has not , here is how GMC did it.
(Does anyone know how were they attached the pickup cables to on the inside ?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6wgXzqt8-I8


Carl Harr : Driver NASCAR Pro Series #2
1978 Gadabout-Restoring
1978 Palm Beach
1976 Glenbrook
Prevost Featherlite H3-45
Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #269062 is a reply to message #268909] Tue, 06 January 2015 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Rob,

With two Gadabouts that I am trying to bring back to life in original form , I am looking for any Gadabout related accessories that will compliment each of them.

If you find anything , please feel free to contact me.

Thanks !



Carl Harr : Driver NASCAR Pro Series #2
1978 Gadabout-Restoring
1978 Palm Beach
1976 Glenbrook
Prevost Featherlite H3-45
Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #269072 is a reply to message #269062] Tue, 06 January 2015 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,

Point of clarification; the Gadabouts you are trying to restore are TWO out of the original FIVE Gadabout's built and given away by
Coke?

Several times a week I check my eBay Search for GMC "stuff" and I'll keep an eye out for Coke Gadabout stuff for you.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl

Hi Rob,

With two Gadabouts that I am trying to bring back to life in original form , I am looking for any Gadabout related accessories that
will compliment each of them.

If you find anything , please feel free to contact me.

Thanks !

Carl

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Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #269115 is a reply to message #269072] Wed, 07 January 2015 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi All

In 1977 Coke offered to sell promotional Gadabouts to their bottling plants
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Coke/Coke3.htm

I talked to Milt Wade about his Gadabout, as I recall, he indicated it had been purchased by the bottling plant in St. Louis.

Coke gave away 5 units in 1978, it would seem reasonable to assume they were 1978 models.
The Pawn stars unit is a 1978 so I presume it was a prize. Marge Noll recently sold a 1978, there is a '78 in a museum,
Serum has (had) a '78, and a '78 recently sold in Texas. Does anyone know if there are 5 Gadabouts with TZE168 serial numbers, and
if so, where are they.

I may be wrong (again) but I assume '77 Gadabouts are promotional and '78 Gadabouts are prizes.

Somebody with definitive information please correct me if I'm wrong.

Dave Mumert
'76 Eleganza II
Alberta, CA

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> Carl,
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> Point of clarification; the Gadabouts you are trying to restore are TWO out of the original FIVE Gadabout's built and given away
by
> Coke?
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Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #269138 is a reply to message #269115] Wed, 07 January 2015 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave
What does Bill Bryant have to say ?
Mike

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Dave Mumert wrote:

> Hi All
>
> In 1977 Coke offered to sell promotional Gadabouts to their bottling plants
> http://www.bdub.net/publications/Coke/Coke3.htm
>
> I talked to Milt Wade about his Gadabout, as I recall, he indicated it had
> been purchased by the bottling plant in St. Louis.
>
> Coke gave away 5 units in 1978, it would seem reasonable to assume they
> were 1978 models.
> The Pawn stars unit is a 1978 so I presume it was a prize. Marge Noll
> recently sold a 1978, there is a '78 in a museum,
> Serum has (had) a '78, and a '78 recently sold in Texas. Does anyone know
> if there are 5 Gadabouts with TZE168 serial numbers, and
> if so, where are they.
>
> I may be wrong (again) but I assume '77 Gadabouts are promotional and '78
> Gadabouts are prizes.
>
> Somebody with definitive information please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Dave Mumert
> '76 Eleganza II
> Alberta, CA
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Robert Mueller
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:40 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration
>>
>> Carl,
>>
>> Point of clarification; the Gadabouts you are trying to restore are TWO
> out of the original FIVE Gadabout's built and given away
> by
>> Coke?
>>
>
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Re: Gadabout Restoration [message #269145 is a reply to message #268951] Wed, 07 January 2015 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gadabout wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 07:51
Hi Kerry;

Yes, I have seen photos of how many of the members lifted the body. Here is what I ended up doing.

We want to do some restoration to the bottom side of the coach, so it was necessary to have it both safe and high enough to work under the coach while the frame is removed.

We manufactured a front and rear support structure, each are 24" tall.

The Rear support structure was designed to saddle the coach aluminum floor channels at the rear of the coach.
Rear Saddle
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image198.jpg

Rear Support
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image203.jpg

The Front support structure saddles 3' X 4" steel tube that is installed under the two forward aluminum channels.
Front Support with removable Legs and I beam for additional lift.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image199.jpg

Removable front leg ( slides forward)

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image201.jpg


Finally wide lift device consisting of two raised bottle jacks and a 10' aluminum I-beam was built.
iBeam for lift while leg is removed
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6575/medium/image202.jpg

- There is enough room between the frame and body to insert a 4" X 3" X 24" Steel Tube. Installed length-wise this tube spans two of the floor channels, and a 4' tall clears the bottom of the body allowing room for a beam to be installed after the frame is lowered.
- Under the 4" X 3" tube is a saddled stand that can be removed ( a tall jack stand could also be used)
- Once the Frame is lowered from the body, the challenge is clearing the stands without having to first remove the wheels and bogie assembly.


Step 1: Raise the coach to 24" , supported by jack stands under frame.
Step 2: Install Front and Rear Support Structures
Step 3: Lower the frame (after you disconnect everything), body is now on support structure.
Step 4: Insert a 10' Beam at front between frame and coach body.
Step 5:With I-beam Lift Body 1/2" and remove front structure legs
Step 6: Roll frame out
Step 7: Reinstall front structure legs, lower front of coach 1/2 and remove I-Beam
Step 8: Connect structure supports and braces before work on bottom of coach begins

I expect you have seen this before but in case someone has not , here is how GMC did it.
(Does anyone know how were they attached the pickup cables to on the inside ?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6wgXzqt8-I8

Did you see how we lift the body Norwegian style ? Rolling Eyes

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l610/Espen_Heitmann/1973%20Sequoia/16152_10204070241909033_1898437441141721198_n_zps95598bfc.jpg



1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway
Re: [GMCnet] Gadabout Restoration [message #269163 is a reply to message #269115] Wed, 07 January 2015 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Dave,

Here's a link to a good article about the GMC's produced for Coke: http://www.gmcclassics.com/robinson/ which I believe is the unit
you mentioned below as being sold recently in Texas.

If you review the photos of the Gadabout and then watch the video of the Pawn Stars Coke GMC you will note that the paint jobs are
different.

I am of the opinion that the one on Pawn Stars was:

a) NOT one of the five given away by Coke
b) was repainted

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Mumert

Hi All

In 1977 Coke offered to sell promotional Gadabouts to their bottling plants
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Coke/Coke3.htm

I talked to Milt Wade about his Gadabout, as I recall, he indicated it had been purchased by the bottling plant in St. Louis.

Coke gave away 5 units in 1978, it would seem reasonable to assume they were 1978 models.
The Pawn stars unit is a 1978 so I presume it was a prize. Marge Noll recently sold a 1978, there is a '78 in a museum,
Serum has (had) a '78, and a '78 recently sold in Texas. Does anyone know if there are 5 Gadabouts with TZE168 serial numbers, and
if so, where are they.

I may be wrong (again) but I assume '77 Gadabouts are promotional and '78 Gadabouts are prizes.

Somebody with definitive information please correct me if I'm wrong.

Dave

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