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Sat, 20 December 2014 12:47  |
amdgmcman
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Greetings!
I'm replacing the rear wheel cylinders which I already have, & am also going to replace the rear shoes at the same time. Is there a part # for NAPA or a local parts supplier for the shoes?
Thanks
AMDGMCMan
Alan M DeLuccio
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| Re: [GMCnet] brake shoes part number... [message #267954 is a reply to message #267934] |
Sat, 20 December 2014 22:11  |
jimk
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There are more efficient brake shoe compounds that seem to work well.
call me and I'll look it up.
Having a part # is great, but knowing the new friction materials help.
Migil of MGM GMC told me of the new material.
We had to go to these when our source quit producing them.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Billy Massey wrote:
> http://gmcmhparts.com/
> Under Brakes, search "wheel", then "shoe".
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> On Dec 20, 2014 1:03 PM, "Alan M DeLuccio" wrote:
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>> Greetings!
>> I'm replacing the rear wheel cylinders which I already have, & am also
> going to replace the rear shoes at the same time. Is there a part # for
> NAPA or
>> a local parts supplier for the shoes?
>> Thanks
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| Re: [GMCnet] brake shoes part number... [message #267958 is a reply to message #267954] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 06:02 |
Jim at the Co-op
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As a suggestion, I would also replace the brake shoe hardware and adjuster
kits. I have seen over the past couple of yours parts failing you normally
would never think of. GM had no idea and did not test for someone using
these things this long. We have done brake work as you are now, replaced
all the "disposables" in the system to find still other parts failing.
Recently our standard is to replace all that other crap in there. I'm sure
Jim K. can set you up with all of that. Call me if you have any other
questions....... oh, BTW, use only "new" parts in your brake system --- no
rebuilds, reman and don't do it yourself with a kt. Piddle with other
stuff but not the brakes!
Jim Bounds
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Jim Kanomata
wrote:
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> There are more efficient brake shoe compounds that seem to work well.
> call me and I'll look it up.
> Having a part # is great, but knowing the new friction materials help.
> Migil of MGM GMC told me of the new material.
> We had to go to these when our source quit producing them.
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Billy Massey wrote:
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>> http://gmcmhparts.com/
>> Under Brakes, search "wheel", then "shoe".
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2014 1:03 PM, "Alan M DeLuccio" wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings!
>>> I'm replacing the rear wheel cylinders which I already have, & am also
>> going to replace the rear shoes at the same time. Is there a part # for
>> NAPA or
>>> a local parts supplier for the shoes?
>>> Thanks
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] brake shoes part number... [message #267977 is a reply to message #267958] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 11:31 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Jim at the Co-op wrote on Sun, 21 December 2014 05:02As a suggestion, I would also replace the brake shoe hardware and adjuster
kits. I have seen over the past couple of yours parts failing you normally
would never think of. GM had no idea and did not test for someone using
these things this long. We have done brake work as you are now, replaced
all the "disposables" in the system to find still other parts failing.
Recently our standard is to replace all that other crap in there. I'm sure
Jim K. can set you up with all of that. Call me if you have any other
questions....... oh, BTW, use only "new" parts in your brake system --- no
rebuilds, reman and don't do it yourself with a kt. Piddle with other
stuff but not the brakes!
Jim Bounds
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Jim Kanomata
wrote:
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> There are more efficient brake shoe compounds that seem to work well.
> call me and I'll look it up.
> Having a part # is great, but knowing the new friction materials help.
> Migil of MGM GMC told me of the new material.
> We had to go to these when our source quit producing them.
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Billy Massey wrote:
>
>> http://gmcmhparts.com/
>> Under Brakes, search "wheel", then "shoe".
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2014 1:03 PM, "Alan M DeLuccio" wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings!
>>> I'm replacing the rear wheel cylinders which I already have, & am also
>> going to replace the rear shoes at the same time. Is there a part # for
>> NAPA or
>>> a local parts supplier for the shoes?
>>> Thanks
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
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As Jim says, the hardware can have a very big effect on the brake performance, esp the springs since they determine when the linings actually start to move off the anchor pin. Even though the shoes and friction material may have an American brand on the box, most linings are now made in China. That alone isn't bad, but unless the US distributor has stringent specs, you may have issues. I would try to find linings made by Dexter to assure you get US made material. Also, if at all possible, try to find rivetted linings rather than bonded--that is getting to be difficult these days.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] brake shoes part number... [message #267988 is a reply to message #267977] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 18:52 |
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Bob,
Double Trouble has disks on the front and middle wheels and the rear is drums (so I can have a parking brake). Dave Lenzi
recommended carbon metallic so that's what I installed on the calipers and drums.
Pads: http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1048
Shoes: http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/607
You MUST sand the surface of the disks and drums where the pads / shoes contact the disks / drums when you install them.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob de Kruyff
As Jim says, the hardware can have a very big effect on the brake performance, esp the springs since they determine when the linings
actually start to move off the anchor pin. Even though the shoes and friction material may have an American brand on the box, most
linings are now made in China. That alone isn't bad, but unless the US distributor has stringent specs, you may have issues. I would
try to find linings made by Dexter to assure you get US made material. Also, if at all possible, try to find rivetted linings rather
than bonded--that is getting to be difficult these days.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] brake shoes part number... [message #268007 is a reply to message #268001] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 08:30 |
Kimberlea Weeks
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A great tech session Al Branscombe conducted at the 2011 Spring GMCMI
Convention in Patterson, Louisiana. Hope you can join us at the 2015 Spring
GMCMI Convention that will be returning to Patterson.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
*Kimberlea Weeks*
VP Administration and Convention Manager
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*Mark this on your calendar today!*
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Kemper Williams Park & Patterson Area Civic Center | Patterson, Louisiana
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Central States Fairgrounds | Rapid City, South Dakota
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Wally Anderson
wrote:
> Loffen wrote on Sun, 21 December 2014 19:51
>> And the main # on the shoes are 462, and can some one please confirm
> that the early # 272 shoes are not in use due to a recall where most back
>> plates where changed ?
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> Al Branscombe shows shoe differences here starting on page 21
> http://www.bdub.net/branscombe/Drum_Park_Brake_Improvements.pdf
> HTH
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