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carb rebuild [message #267834] Fri, 19 December 2014 00:41 Go to next message
dan molnes is currently offline  dan molnes   United States
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got a q jet that needs attention, anybody in the seattle area have any ideas
or should I ship it to the co-op. does jim do a good job and I was wondering
about the time frame that it takes $285 seems like a good price. thanks dan
Re: carb rebuild [message #267837 is a reply to message #267834] Fri, 19 December 2014 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Galbavy is currently offline  Jim Galbavy   United States
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Dan, JimB rebuilt one for me 12 years ago and haven't had to touch it since.
I think the trick is once it is rebuilt to use it often and for long trips
as much as you can.

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267839 is a reply to message #267834] Fri, 19 December 2014 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dick Patterson
http://www.paterson-gmc.com
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On Thursday, December 18, 2014, dan molnes wrote:

> got a q jet that needs attention, anybody in the seattle area have any
> ideas
> or should I ship it to the co-op. does jim do a good job and I was
> wondering
> about the time frame that it takes $285 seems like a good price. thanks
> dan
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Re: carb rebuild [message #267840 is a reply to message #267834] Fri, 19 December 2014 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Call and send it to Dick Paterson

http://www.paterson-gmc.com/



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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267842 is a reply to message #267840] Fri, 19 December 2014 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim at the Co-op is currently offline  Jim at the Co-op   United States
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Wow, I can feel the love there, thanks

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> Call and send it to Dick Paterson
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> http://www.paterson-gmc.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267844 is a reply to message #267839] Fri, 19 December 2014 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Galbavy is currently offline  Jim Galbavy   United States
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Funny how people don't answer a question. Yes, JimB does rebuild
a nice correct q-jet for a GMC Motorhome (and at a good price).
So does Paterson, but that wasn't the question.

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267848 is a reply to message #267844] Fri, 19 December 2014 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim at the Co-op is currently offline  Jim at the Co-op   United States
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Hey, let it ride.. right. Hey, we do live in America. Dick does a great
job and he can also be a good choice. Have have a great respect for him
and I feel he does for me as well so I guess that's what's really
important. Probably need to end this thread, what needs to be said has
been.

"To Infinity and Beyond..."

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Jim Galbavy wrote:
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> Funny how people don't answer a question. Yes, JimB does rebuild
> a nice correct q-jet for a GMC Motorhome (and at a good price).
> So does Paterson, but that wasn't the question.
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267850 is a reply to message #267848] Fri, 19 December 2014 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Hey;

When I wanted to get my Q-Jet rebuilt on the CamoGMC I checked around
and the 2 BEST places to send it at the time was either JimB or Patterson.
Unfortunately, I checked with Patterson first and the word that I got was
$300 but I would have to add another $300 if the carb wasn't fit to
rebuild. I stopped right there and figured that JimB would probably have
the same core charge (but never asked him, just assumed). At the time JR
Wheeler was putting together a fuel injection group buy, so I went with
that. A little over $1000. JWID.
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267853 is a reply to message #267850] Fri, 19 December 2014 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dan molnes is currently offline  dan molnes   United States
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sorry about opening a can of worms my girlfriend has always said I.m a pot
stirrer
I know what I.m doing as far as the carb but what about the crossovers
should I block them off
and put on an electric chock ?

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Gary Berry wrote:

> Hey;
>
> When I wanted to get my Q-Jet rebuilt on the CamoGMC I checked around
> and the 2 BEST places to send it at the time was either JimB or Patterson.
> Unfortunately, I checked with Patterson first and the word that I got was
> $300 but I would have to add another $300 if the carb wasn't fit to
> rebuild. I stopped right there and figured that JimB would probably have
> the same core charge (but never asked him, just assumed). At the time JR
> Wheeler was putting together a fuel injection group buy, so I went with
> that. A little over $1000. JWID.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267855 is a reply to message #267850] Fri, 19 December 2014 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Gary Berry wrote:
>
> Hey;
>
> When I wanted to get my Q-Jet rebuilt on the CamoGMC I checked around
> and the 2 BEST places to send it at the time was either JimB or Patterson.
> Unfortunately, I checked with Patterson first and the word that I got was
> $300 but I would have to add another $300 if the carb wasn't fit to
> rebuild. I stopped right there and figured that JimB would probably have
> the same core charge (but never asked him, just assumed). At the time JR
> Wheeler was putting together a fuel injection group buy, so I went with
> that. A little over $1000. JWID.
>
​wow what a deal
- only 1/2 the price of an oil change on a dsl sob
- only 1/2 the price of my "ATOMIC 23"​

http://gmc49ers.blogspot.com/
- I just threw away 2 howell tbi systems :>)

erf​

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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267858 is a reply to message #267844] Fri, 19 December 2014 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Jim Galbavy wrote:
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> Funny how people don't answer a question. Yes, JimB does rebuild
> a nice correct q-jet for a GMC Motorhome (and at a good price).
> So does Paterson, but that wasn't the question.
>
​geessseee
-i never get any static when i post on Fb
- there are only 1,000 gmc's up there
- as for loving jim bounds, i seldom get to camp with him
- but i love what he does, he is the main man keeping us
on the road....
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267867 is a reply to message #267858] Fri, 19 December 2014 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A reminder...
$300 for a rebuild from Patterson is in CDN pesos.
Today that would equal $30. or close to it.
signed,
a poor Canadian
Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267900 is a reply to message #267842] Fri, 19 December 2014 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have no idea of the quality of or what is included in Jim B. supplied carbs. I have no idea on who Jim B. has rebuilding them for him.

I do know and have had experience on multiple Dick P. rebuilt carbs, distributors, engines, and transmissions.

This does not mean there is anything wrong with Jim B. supplied carbs and that they are any better or worse than those from Dick P.

I simply recommend what I have had experiences with.

Both vendors (Jim B. and and Dick P.) are superior GMC vendors.


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267907 is a reply to message #267900] Fri, 19 December 2014 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Both guys provide good carbs for your coach. Dick does his one way and Jim B. the other way. Jim explained his process a number of years ago. The carbs are rebuild by an independate rebuilder in Orlando using the correct parts and then are wet flowed as he explained it. It is your carb that is rebuild and returned to you. The choice yours on which way you want to go and the pricing is very similar with Jim’s pricing a little less than than Dick’s.

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

> On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
>
> I have no idea of the quality of or what is included in Jim B. supplied carbs. I have no idea on who Jim B. has rebuilding them for him.
>
> I do know and have had experience on multiple Dick P. rebuilt carbs, distributors, engines, and transmissions.
>
> This does no mean there is anything wrong with Jim B. supplied carbs and that they are any better or worse than those from Dick P.
>
> I simply recommend what I have had experiences with.
>
> Both vendors (Jim B. and and Dick P.) are superior GMC vendors.
> --
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> 76 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267912 is a reply to message #267907] Sat, 20 December 2014 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim at the Co-op is currently offline  Jim at the Co-op   United States
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Ken, Gene and others,

I completely know you guys are behind what we do, there have been ups and
downs but overall, it comes down to our mutual love of these machines. All
the rest is social and boy -- that's one thing about humans in general --
we are what we are. So look, when I said what I did was for the lurkers
out there. After talking with a close friend about this I realized many of
you guys on the GMCnet maybe don't understand what this forum represents
and how it is being used. My bet is for every one person who posts here
even occasionally there are hundreds of folks out there trying to glean all
they can about all of you and the community in general. You are here
because you have something in common and enjoy discussing things about it,
there is a larger group that is completely interested in a GMC but hasn't
felt competent enough to get involved. Others are doing their "due
diligence" trying to learn as much as they can before making the jump. You
may never hear from them here but I do. That is the customer for the level
of restoration we do. This is the next generation of owners and they may
be here for more reasons than you. Some speak up as lurkers and I think
that's great but as Confucius says, you can learn more by listening!

So this group has a speaker listening to you guys and remember, once you
press sent -- they all get that and they are listening. Now, put yourself
in my shoes, the ones listened to responds to a post about a player in the
community, someone they may have called -- someone I may have spent an hour
or more talking about the GMC -- the good, bad and ugly. I do not buy or
sell coaches but I hate to hear someone stressed out about all the crap
they are now having to do to their coach after someone told them the coach
was ready for the road. It's not that the seller may have been hiding the
truth but the fact is "road ready" will mean different things to different
people.

Had a guy who picked up a coach that had been stored in an aircraft hanger
for 14 years, I knew the coach and I know the guy who sold it to him told
the truth when he sold it. The new owner had a different perception of
"low mileage" and "needs to be gotten back up to condition". On a 30+ year
ald beast brother there are so many ways you can get bit but you must
understand and expect that. In the end, this owner actually has
contributed here and was educated on the fly and was aware enough of how
things are that he rolled with it and shifted those expectations and what
was needed. He invested more than he paid to get the coach operational and
now the coach is being taken to the next level of reliability and updating
with us and that customer went into the purchase knowing what he had, what
was needed and what reasonable expectations are.

OK, there is a good chance both of those guys are lurking here --- and when
brought up that someone was considering sending a carb to me for
refurbishing you guys immediately blew that off and told him to send it to
Dick. Heck, we had been talking through his issues before, he was sort of
confirming his decision.

There is nothing wrong with Dicks carbs, there is nothing wrong with ones I
or Jim K. or whoever who is an accepted dealer in this community. It
should be those here vocal here on the net to open someones viable options,
lay them all out and let that person do their own "due diligence" ---call,
talk to others and make a personal decision based on their findings. You
guys -- and I don't mean this maliciously are not the last word on many
issues you discuss. The minute you think you know everything you are a
fool! Don't know who said that but came from someone who rose up in their
understand and one day realized so many other people also had good ideas
and who was he to push his ideas on anyone. The best is to present the
options to others and let them choose.

Dangit, I'm not trying to preach here but really, last night it became
apparent to me that in fact the 2 factions of this community may not
understand how they impact the other.

So guys, when someone wants to understand and asks a question like that
-- unless you really wanna impact that person, business but especially a
business that is involved, give a safe overview and let those folks make
their informed decision.

So now if I'm out of line I am sorry -- I hold nothing against anyone
involved but I just don't want either group to get confliction
information. If you really hatemy guts --- could be -- then have at it.
This is my passion, my hobby and my business and livelihood -- you must
expect a reply.

Like I said on that last post I sent, this thread should probably wind
down, each one of the folks listening now I hope have the answers they were
looking for. I swear, if we all took a bit more of the soap opera out of
the forum it would be more interesting. Of course that's my opinion and I
don't wanna push my ideas on others...

Jim Bounds
-------------------------------

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:13 AM, John Wright
wrote:
>
> Both guys provide good carbs for your coach. Dick does his one way and
> Jim B. the other way. Jim explained his process a number of years ago.
> The carbs are rebuild by an independate rebuilder in Orlando using the
> correct parts and then are wet flowed as he explained it. It is your carb
> that is rebuild and returned to you. The choice yours on which way you
> want to go and the pricing is very similar with Jim’s pricing a little less
> than than Dick’s.
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
>
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
>>
>> I have no idea of the quality of or what is included in Jim B. supplied
> carbs. I have no idea on who Jim B. has rebuilding them for him.
>>
>> I do know and have had experience on multiple Dick P. rebuilt carbs,
> distributors, engines, and transmissions.
>>
>> This does no mean there is anything wrong with Jim B. supplied carbs and
> that they are any better or worse than those from Dick P.
>>
>> I simply recommend what I have had experiences with.
>>
>> Both vendors (Jim B. and and Dick P.) are superior GMC vendors.
>> --
>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: carb rebuild [message #267915 is a reply to message #267834] Sat, 20 December 2014 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim.

Thanks for all you do for this great GMC community. My Q-jet story is another shining example of our great GMC vendors. My carb was gummed up from years of sitting and needed cleaning and rebuild. I have an old hot rod friend who rebuilds race engines for a living. He turned me on to Holley double pumper racing carbs and I run them on my old trucks and they have served me well for many years. Because of this I was inclined to put a Holley on the GMC, likely a vacume operated secondary version due to the weight of the GMC. Double pumpers work best with lighter vehicles and manual transmissions.

Here is where the GMC vendors come in. Ken Frey practically begged me not to go the Holley route. "Please give the original design a chance", we can make it better than new with a few tricks and techniques we have learned along the way. Tricks to work better with today's fuel like larger metering rods and drilling one of the air circuits larger.

Ken's offer to me was to let him do it at no charge and then drive it until next inspection or service. I was only to pay him if it operated perfectly and to my full satisfaction. That included; choke, fast idle, slow idle, transition off idle and full secondary operation. I believe he also beefs up the accelerator pump. Well it works perfectly. It will even take itself off fast idle as it warms up. I happily paid him the roughly $300 for the rebuild and carb tune.

These vendors really know what they are doing. I use Ken because he is local to me and I have ordered from many others. It is on my bucket list to visit the Co-op and Applied GMC. I would love to have a Patterson distributor and carry my current unit as a spare.




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Re: [GMCnet] carb rebuild [message #267955 is a reply to message #267915] Sat, 20 December 2014 22:22 Go to previous message
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I know when we install the Patterson carb for the California Smog test they
work great.
We supply the Patterson/Springfild units and keeep them in stock.
For those that are economically sided we supply our own that is done by a
one man shop.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Steve Adams wrote:

> Jim.
>
> Thanks for all you do for this great GMC community. My Q-jet story is
> another shining example of our great GMC vendors. My carb was gummed up from
> years of sitting and needed cleaning and rebuild. I have an old hot rod
> friend who rebuilds race engines for a living. He turned me on to Holley
> double pumper racing carbs and I run them on my old trucks and they have
> served me well for many years. Because of this I was inclined to put a
> Holley
> on the GMC, likely a vacume operated secondary version due to the weight
> of the GMC. Double pumpers work best with lighter vehicles and manual
> transmissions.
>
> Here is where the GMC vendors come in. Ken Frey practically begged me not
> to go the Holley route. "Please give the original design a chance", we can
> make it better than new with a few tricks and techniques we have learned
> along the way. Tricks to work better with today's fuel like larger metering
> rods and drilling one of the air circuits larger.
>
> Ken's offer to me was to let him do it at no charge and then drive it
> until next inspection or service. I was only to pay him if it operated
> perfectly
> and to my full satisfaction. That included; choke, fast idle, slow idle,
> transition off idle and full secondary operation. I believe he also beefs up
> the accelerator pump. Well it works perfectly. It will even take itself
> off fast idle as it warms up. I happily paid him the roughly $300 for the
> rebuild and carb tune.
>
> These vendors really know what they are doing. I use Ken because he is
> local to me and I have ordered from many others. It is on my bucket list to
> visit the Co-op and Applied GMC. I would love to have a Patterson
> distributor and carry my current unit as a spare.
>
>
>
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> Eastern Pennslyvania
> 1968 Chevrolet C20 396 Camper Special
> 1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
> 1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
> 1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
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