| [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267054] |
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Len Novak
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I'm able to log in. Hacker?
Cheers,
Len and Pat
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267067 is a reply to message #267054] |
Wed, 03 December 2014 11:31  |
Ken Burton
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I am sitting here thinking about what the world has come to. A little over 47 years ago I hired into IBM to work on computers. I spent over 30 years doing that in various roles. When I started people on the street had no idea what a computer even was. We (IBMers) talked in acronyms that confused everyone on the outside.
Today we have progressed to a point where a majority of people own and run their own small computers and the industry has was passed my capabilities. I retired over 15 years ago and things that are now simple to people like Billy now baffle me. The industry has moved on to the Billys of the world and I'm on the outside looking in.
Thanks Billy for all that you do for us.
Most people on the street do not even know what an 80 or 96 column punch card even was.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267071 is a reply to message #267067] |
Wed, 03 December 2014 11:44 |
jknezek
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Ken Burton wrote on Wed, 03 December 2014 12:31I am sitting here thinking about what the world has come to. A
Most people on the street do not even know what an 80 or 96 column punch card even was.
I've got an Uncle with 5 complete card drawers full of punch cards that when fed carefully and in order into the University of Vermont mainframe in the late 1970s produced a reasonably accurate drawing of the Mona Lisa. Apparently it was part of his grad school dissertation. When I was a kid my Uncle once threatened me with pain beyond measure if my horsing around caused one of the card drawers to fall out and the cards to get out of order.
I suppose it is all about the nostalgia for him since I doubt there is any place he could re-run that project outside of a comp-sci museum.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267086 is a reply to message #267067] |
Wed, 03 December 2014 15:25 |
midlf
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Ken Burton wrote on Wed, 03 December 2014 11:31I am sitting here thinking about what the world has come to. A little over 47 years ago I hired into IBM to work on computers. I spent over 30 years doing that in various roles. When I started people on the street had no idea what a computer even was. We (IBMers) talked in acronyms that confused everyone on the outside.
Today we have progressed to a point where a majority of people own and run their own small computers and the industry has was passed my capabilities. I retired over 15 years ago and things that are now simple to people like Billy now baffle me. The industry has moved on to the Billys of the world and I'm on the outside looking in.
Thanks Billy for all that you do for us.
Most people on the street do not even know what an 80 or 96 column punch card even was.
Yep Ken - I hear ya. Sometimes I feel like a cyber neanderthal. Fortunately I have a 25 yo friend that is IT director for a suburban school system. He speaks proficient PC and Apple as well as all the server stuff. I figure my Ipad is dying of boredom based on how much I challnge it.
As a legacy item however the card cabinets make great storage cabinets for tools, supplies and parts. When I can find them they are usually cheap. The sellers generally have no idea what they were originally for.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267150 is a reply to message #267140] |
Thu, 04 December 2014 13:18 |
Ken Burton
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Thanks Matt, Please do that.
While I came along at the phase out of Unit Record machines, I still had a few years of experience with them as companies migrated away from them. Most of the stuff I worked on was disk and tape oriented but the data still usually started out with holes in card, or in the case of the phone company and railroad, holes in a tape and got stored electronically.
I still have an 80 column card gage and a couple of slide rules around.
One of the first disk drives I worked on had a whopping 200 meg. capacity. The disk was about 18" in diameter by 8" high and had 10 platters. I also worked on some smaller 20 meg. drives.
I only spent a couple of years doing that before I migrated to communications "teleprocessing" devices.
My original point was that other than the few people in the industry, a computer was a mysterious thing that no one had ever seen or knew anything about.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267152 is a reply to message #267141] |
Thu, 04 December 2014 13:23 |
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Did Ken forget that there are a bunch of old-timers on here? Of course we
know the difference. I¹ll be we can even spell ENIAC either direction and
explain the acronym. Do you want to hear about the history of data
processing from that first one through GE¹s installation in Appliance Park
and how it was brought down for maintenance every six days just so all 16K
would work correctly when powered up?
Now, let¹s go further back. I always explained to my students about the
significance of ³moveable type² and what it meant. Poor Johann, so much
has changed. And, then there¹s the reason we have upper and lower case
At any rate, I figured that cryptic message was sent by the click of a
mouse just a millisecond before an expletive was uttered. Been there, done
that.
As for me, I¹m ready for the Cloud to go away. We¹re storing too much in
vulnerable places while putting security in jeopardy. Just because we can
doesn¹t mean we should or has artificial intelligence already taken over
the world?
Byron Songer
Currently in Kissimmee
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267156 is a reply to message #267152] |
Thu, 04 December 2014 16:14 |
jw mills
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Byron, I'm a late a comer, my first computer was an IBM 1620 with an
extra 8k online. BTW I've still got the start deck.
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Greeley, CO
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On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 14:23 -0500, Byron Songer wrote:
> Did Ken forget that there are a bunch of old-timers on here? Of course we
> know the difference. I¹ll be we can even spell ENIAC either direction and
> explain the acronym. Do you want to hear about the history of data
> processing from that first one through GE¹s installation in Appliance Park
> and how it was brought down for maintenance every six days just so all 16K
> would work correctly when powered up?
>
> Now, let¹s go further back. I always explained to my students about the
> significance of ³moveable type² and what it meant. Poor Johann, so much
> has changed. And, then there¹s the reason we have upper and lower case
>
> At any rate, I figured that cryptic message was sent by the click of a
> mouse just a millisecond before an expletive was uttered. Been there, done
> that.
>
> As for me, I¹m ready for the Cloud to go away. We¹re storing too much in
> vulnerable places while putting security in jeopardy. Just because we can
> doesn¹t mean we should or has artificial intelligence already taken over
> the world?
>
> Byron Songer
> Currently in Kissimmee
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267157 is a reply to message #267156] |
Thu, 04 December 2014 16:43 |
tphipps
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Hollerith cards were developed for the new fangled loams for weaving cloth and carpets.
Still have an antique Pentium machine that has a very specialized ISA card in it. New card is in excess of $600. Old card works fine. Speed is not always everything.
Tom. MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: [GMCnet] FW: confirm 35c8287972df6f26308f88627557089e4e9cf7ed [message #267179 is a reply to message #267177] |
Fri, 05 December 2014 08:43 |
James Hupy
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Don't worry about data storage offsite. The people or the character
interpreters that scan your data (mining it for "certain words and
phrases") have your best interests at heart. If you really want your data
to be private, keep it locked up in your head. (Grin) My personal opinion,
yours might (and probably should) vary somewhat.
Jim Hupy, presently at a GMC CASCADER rally at Lake Mayfield Resort in the
Cascade foothills of Western Washington State. Dry for the moment and 45°
f. or so.
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Dec 5, 2014 6:24 AM, "Matt Colie" wrote:
> Byron Songer wrote on Thu, 04 December 2014 14:23
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>> As for me, I¹m ready for the Cloud to go away. We¹re storing too much in
> vulnerable places while putting security in jeopardy. Just because we
>> can doesn't mean we should or has artificial intelligence already taken
> over the world?
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> Currently in Kissimmee
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> Byron,
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> I am with you on this one. I don't want data stored someplace that is no
> place. I'm all for off-site back up, but it should be in a location that is
> known and the data owner controls.
>
> Matt
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