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Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #265861] Tue, 11 November 2014 14:47 Go to next message
Otterwan   United States
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They are opening a Harbor Freight about a half mile from our house. My son completed the online application, a totally ridiculous 8 page document, and submitted it last night. He got a call this morning to come in Thursday for an in person interview. I told him he was probably one of a handful who managed to successfully complete the online application.

I'm both proud and ashamed ;o)

If he gets the job, he gets an employee discount. Which considering HF's prices, probably means you get the tool for free and they give you a dollar.

So I may have to stop badmouthing HF.







Nah............................


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Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #265868 is a reply to message #265861] Tue, 11 November 2014 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Congrats to your son. Good to see them work to see what they want to do.
Good on him

Erf

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, David Orders wrote:

> They are opening a Harbor Freight about a half mile from our house. My son
> completed the online application, a totally ridiculous 8 page document, and
> submitted it last night. He got a call this morning to come in Thursday
> for an in person interview. I told him he was probably one of a handful who
> managed to successfully complete the online application.
>
> I'm both proud and ashamed ;o)
>
> If he gets the job, he gets an employee discount. Which considering HF's
> prices, probably means you get the tool for free and they give you a dollar.
>
> So I may have to stop badmouthing HF.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nah............................
> --
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> evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up
> to
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Re: Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #265876 is a reply to message #265861] Tue, 11 November 2014 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wish him luck. I knew an assistant manager pretty well when my business was going strong. I'd buy some stuff from them and modify it a ton in order to make a dovetail adjuster. Anyway I got to know this lady really well.

Their turnover is pretty high and morale seems pretty low. Seems like a place that a go getter could do well if they don't allow themselves to be dragged down.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #265877 is a reply to message #265861] Tue, 11 November 2014 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At least it's a job, not a marriage. Every job tends to be a good learning experience, even if it doesn't become a career.

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Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #265889 is a reply to message #265861] Tue, 11 November 2014 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Harbor Freight job opening is just that, an OPENING!

This sort of job is definitely "entry level" where a new/young worker gets a chance to show that he can show up to work on time (every time), clean and neatly dressed, and learn to do what he is told to do. There is some opportunity to advance, both in pay and responsibility, when he demonstrates that he actually IS responsible!

Working well, at any job, will usually earn a recommendation for a more advanced job.

My first "real" job was as the only employee of a Dairy Queen down the state highway from my house. I started at $ .55 per hour. I got an 18% raise three weeks later to $ .65 per hour. This was around 1954!

Best of wishes to him, David!

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> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:47:38 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: dao@oarsllc.com
> Subject: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight
>
> They are opening a Harbor Freight about a half mile from our house. My son completed the online application, a totally ridiculous 8 page document, and
> submitted it last night. He got a call this morning to come in Thursday for an in person interview. I told him he was probably one of a handful who
> managed to successfully complete the online application.
>
> I'm both proud and ashamed ;o)
>
> If he gets the job, he gets an employee discount. Which considering HF's prices, probably means you get the tool for free and they give you a dollar.
>
> So I may have to stop badmouthing HF.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nah............................
> --
> 1976 Royale "Twinkie II" Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #265911 is a reply to message #265889] Wed, 12 November 2014 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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David

Send me your mailing address, I want to send my newest best friend a card.
Discount from HF you say??

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:01 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:

> The Harbor Freight job opening is just that, an OPENING!
>
> This sort of job is definitely "entry level" where a new/young worker gets
> a chance to show that he can show up to work on time (every time), clean
> and neatly dressed, and learn to do what he is told to do. There is some
> opportunity to advance, both in pay and responsibility, when he
> demonstrates that he actually IS responsible!
>
> Working well, at any job, will usually earn a recommendation for a more
> advanced job.
>
> My first "real" job was as the only employee of a Dairy Queen down the
> state highway from my house. I started at $ .55 per hour. I got an 18%
> raise three weeks later to $ .65 per hour. This was around 1954!
>
> Best of wishes to him, David!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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>> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:47:38 -0700
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> From: dao@oarsllc.com
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview
> with Harbor Freight
>>
>> They are opening a Harbor Freight about a half mile from our house. My
> son completed the online application, a totally ridiculous 8 page document,
> and
>> submitted it last night. He got a call this morning to come in Thursday
> for an in person interview. I told him he was probably one of a handful who
>> managed to successfully complete the online application.
>>
>> I'm both proud and ashamed ;o)
>>
>> If he gets the job, he gets an employee discount. Which considering HF's
> prices, probably means you get the tool for free and they give you a dollar.
>>
>> So I may have to stop badmouthing HF.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nah............................
>> --
>> 1976 Royale "Twinkie II" Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all
> evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up
> to us."
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Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #265991 is a reply to message #265911] Thu, 13 November 2014 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Interview went fine. All that remains in the background check, so unless that senior trip was actually running guns to Nicaraguan Rebels, he's in!

1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #266027 is a reply to message #265861] Thu, 13 November 2014 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Shudder" Harbor Fright.....

That's what we call them at work anyways. The owners of my company in their ever expanding ways of making things cheaper to pad their own wallets bought us a load of air tools from Harbor Freight, die grinders, right angle die grinders, body saws, etc...... yeah, didn't work out so well. They have now adopted an IR policy. If it isn't Ingersol Rand, it isn't going to last very long.

My opinion of course. You really do get what you pay for.

Jared

P.S. Dave, congratulations to your son, a foot in the door is better than not no matter where he is working.


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Re: Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interview with Harbor Freight [message #266029 is a reply to message #265861] Thu, 13 November 2014 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe he can work his way up in the company and slowly have them start stocking some US tools. Ok just dreaming but what a story.

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Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interviewwith Harbor Freight [message #266030 is a reply to message #266027] Thu, 13 November 2014 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jared,

I have a selection of Harbor Freight tools that I bought well before I retired to Australia in 2002 I oil them daily when I use
them, I don't FORCE them and they all work just fine.

Oops that's a lie; the little reciprocating body saws are not very good:

http://www.harborfreight.com/high-speed-metal-saw-91753.html

they seem to shake themselves apart fairly consistently so I keep a spare. I think the last one I bought on sale cost me $12.95

Here's a link to the Ingersoll Rand version:

http://www.gettoolsdirect.com.au/ingersoll-rand-heavy-duty-reciprocating-saw-4429.html

Divide $255 by $13 and you'll see you can buy 20 Harbor Freight models for the cost of 1 Ingersoll Rand.

HOWEVER, I agree 100% with your boss in buying IR tools, when I was the Operations Manager of a Hamilton Standard aircraft parts
overhaul facility back in 1989 I found the people that worked for me didn't give a damn about taking care of tools that HS provided.
In fact one of the workshops complained to me that the Dremel tool they used to remove material from turbines to balance them was
too slow and an air tool would be better. I bought them one for $400 and it lasted FOUR days because none of the technicians
bothered to oil it.

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Sydney, Australia
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jared

"Shudder" Harbor Fright.....

That's what we call them at work anyways. The owners of my company in their ever expanding ways of making things cheaper to pad
their own wallets bought us a load of air tools from Harbor Freight, die grinders, right angle die grinders, body saws, etc......
yeah, didn't work out so well. They have now adopted an IR policy. If it isn't Ingersol Rand, it isn't going to last very long.

My opinion of course. You really do get what you pay for.

Jared



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Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a job interviewwith Harbor Freight [message #266037 is a reply to message #266030] Thu, 13 November 2014 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Congrats to your son. It's a start and the cream will always rise to the top...if he doesn't allow himself to curdle first.

USAussie wrote on Thu, 13 November 2014 20:25
...Divide $255 by $13 and you'll see you can buy 20 Harbor Freight models for the cost of 1 Ingersoll Rand....


Yes Rob but you're not considering that the typical IR, or Chicago Pneumatic...CP (not to be confused with HF's Chicago Electric), or other US made...or at least US company specifications... tool will do twice the work with half the air of the 'comparable' HF units.

And yes, I buy stuff there but not air tools...at least not any more. I have and use usually daily most every air tool (and electric for that matter) known to man...and a few that most folks have never seen. There is a HUGE difference in how MOST the name brand tools perform relative to the Chinese clones. There are a few exceptions but I've tried most of the HF stuff. They do make a few tools that are consistently OK. I have several of their die grinders I use for some aluminum sculpture because I want to have different bits available without changing them. Some of their electric sheet metal shears are good. There little horizontal band saw was great 30 years ago. The new ones are junk. Look the same but a bunch of plastic and the 1 HP electric motor is now about 1/2 the size and is about a 1 poodle power. I had an old one that worked great for decades and decided I wanted a few more to set up with different blades. Went through 4 in a week...motors burned up within minutes. Same with some of their 4 1/2" grinders. Yeah you can take them back but after a while, you realize you're spending more in gas and lost time than the dang things are worth. I have had 3 DeWalt grinders, 3 Rigid, and a Mikida for many years. Replaced the brushes on some of them and the power cords but they still work great although I think one of the DeWalts has the bearings going out after 5-6 years.

Their pallet jack and air over hydraulic jacks work great.

Cheap tools really are false economy. Or as my Burr_King tee shirt says "Real fabricators break Chinese tools!" LOL

And don't even get me going on their so called metal shaping tools.. ROTFLOL!


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a jobinterviewwith Harbor Freight [message #266044 is a reply to message #266037] Thu, 13 November 2014 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry,

I NEVER said that professionals should buy cheap Harbor Freight tools. I have ALWAYS maintained they are fine for the average Joe
that's playing around in their garage if he treats them right and speed of job completion is not a factor.

Virtually every tool I have in the USA comes from Harbor Freight; I believe it would be foolish to purchase professional grade tools
to support repairs / projects that I have going in the USA. They get used three to four months a year!

The biggest problem I have with the HF tools in the USA is with the 18VDC batteries, because the tool is not used and the battery is
not recharged they just don't last. Plus they are NiCad, it would be better if HF would provide NmHi batteries.

I purchased LiOh batteries for the DeWalt tools I have here and they are amazing! I charged them all four of them up before I left
this past June and when I returned in October they were at full charge; however, those batteries cost over $80 each!

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton

Congrats to your son. It's a start and the cream will always rise to the top...if he doesn't allow himself to curdle first.

USAussie wrote on Thu, 13 November 2014 20:25
> ...Divide $255 by $13 and you'll see you can buy 20 Harbor Freight models for the cost of 1 Ingersoll Rand....

Yes Rob but you're not considering that the typical IR, or Chicago Pneumatic...CP (not to be confused with HF's Chicago Electric),
or other US made...or at least US company specifications... tool will do twice the work with half the air of the 'comparable' HF
units.

And yes, I buy stuff there but not air tools...at least not any more. I have and use usually daily most every air tool (and
electric for that matter) known to man...and a few that most folks have never seen. There is a HUGE difference in how MOST the name
brand tools perform relative to the Chinese clones. There are a few exceptions but I've tried most of the HF stuff. They do make a
few tools that are consistently OK. I have several of their die grinders I use for some aluminum sculpture because I want to have
different bits available without changing them. Some of their electric sheet metal shears are good. There little horizontal band
saw was great 30 years ago. The new ones are junk. Look the same but a bunch of plastic and the 1 HP electric motor is now about
1/2 the size and is about a 1 poodle power. I had an old one that worked great for decades and decided I wanted a few more to set
up with different blades. Went through 4 in a week...motors burned up within minutes. Same with some of their 4 1/2" grinders.
Yeah you can take them back but after a while, you realize you're spending more in gas and lost time than the dang things are worth.
I have had 3 DeWalt grinders, 3 Rigid, and a Mikida for many years. Replaced the brushes on some of them and the power cords but
they still work great although I think one of the DeWalts has the bearings going out after 5-6 years.

Their pallet jack and air over hydraulic jacks work great.

Cheap tools really are false economy. Or as my Burr_King tee shirt says "Real fabricators break Chinese tools!" LOL

And don't even get me going on their so called metal shaping tools.. ROTFLOL!

Kerry

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Re: [GMCnet] Totally off topic. My teenage son has a jobinterviewwith Harbor Freight [message #266062 is a reply to message #266044] Fri, 14 November 2014 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Thu, 13 November 2014 22:23
I NEVER said that professionals should buy cheap Harbor Freight tools.

Though sometimes... I was recently helping a guy trim his mother-in-law's tree, and pushing a hand saw was obviously going to wear out my arm before the tree was done. He went to his M.I.L's neighbor, who happens to be a contractor, and came back with a borrowed reciprocating saw from - you guessed it - Harbor Freight. It was this one (which is on sale for $21.99 if you have the coupon):

http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html

I was talking to the contractor, mentioning that I'd bought one of them (for $19.99 I believe) and had used the heck out of it, hacking apart things that really needed a chainsaw, pushing it down in the mud to trim roots underground, etc. He said that he used to buy (much more expensive) Rockwell saws, but figured out that the HF saws actually lasted LONGER. That, and since his guys tend to lose things, he now buys six of the HF saws at a time when they go on sale, and doesn't worry about it.

Sure, I've bought stuff from HF that lasted halfway through the first application of violence, but they DO have some really great buys - especially for those of us who won't be using that particular tool every day (or even week) for the rest of our lives.


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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When I worked as a kid at the gin shop making cotton gins, all the tools were air powered as a safety measure. All made by Chicago Pneumatic, who still make the best. Every work station had an air supply with a regulator and an oiler. The tool crib guy came around each morning and filled the oilers. The stuff never busted. Now, HF is trying to cash in on that reputation by naming their stuff 'Central Pneumatic' so they can stamp CP on it and hope you'll think it's the Good Stuff.

--johnny


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