| Last Hot Dog [message #265681] |
Sat, 08 November 2014 19:15  |
Cadillackeeper
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Well,A few years in and my last of the last stock airbag that was a hot dog upside down anyways has finally failed.I started with one that was new and 4 that were all old.Now the million dollar question.Buy one $400 new from Michigan.Buy a used one that could last years or just 5 min.Or reinvent the wheel with sully or 4 bagger.I am really leaning for 2 new from Michigan and my new looking one that has been on for 2 years for a spare.I feel another 30 some odd years on 2 new ones,No???
77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: [GMCnet] Last Hot Dog [message #265683 is a reply to message #265681] |
Sat, 08 November 2014 19:42  |
powerjon
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Tony,
You can put a complete Sully bag system on your coach for less than purchasing 2 high dollar original air bags and have a modern system that can have the bags replaced for about $140 give or take.
http://www.bdub.net/sully/
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
> On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:15 PM, anthony ezzo wrote:
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> Well,A few years in and my last of the last stock airbag that was a hot dog upside down anyways has finally failed.I started with one that was new and
> 4 that were all old.Now the million dollar question.Buy one $400 new from Michigan.Buy a used one that could last years or just 5 min.Or reinvent the
> wheel with sully or 4 bagger.I am really leaning for 2 new from Michigan and my new looking one that has been on for 2 years for a spare.I feel
> another 30 some odd years on 2 new ones,No???
> --
> 77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: [GMCnet] Last Hot Dog [message #265693 is a reply to message #265683] |
Sat, 08 November 2014 21:03 |
k2gkk
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I heartily concur with JR Wright's opinion below. The Sullybilt system is hardly reinventing the wheel! It's simply a means to duplicate the original suspension theory and implementation with somewhat different hardware, cheaper (and easily found) air bags, and that uses all the existing pneumatic (air) system of ALL years of rear suspensions. It also takes lower air pressure to support the coach at normal height and you only lose about 1/2 inch of total suspension travel. A GOOD deal all around!
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> From: powerjon@chartermi.net
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:42:03 -0500
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Last Hot Dog
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> Tony,
> You can put a complete Sully bag system on your coach for less than purchasing 2 high dollar original air bags and have a modern system that can have the bags replaced for about $140 give or take.
>
> http://www.bdub.net/sully/
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> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:15 PM, anthony ezzo wrote:
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>> Well,A few years in and my last of the last stock airbag that was a hot dog upside down anyways has finally failed.I started with one that was new and
>> 4 that were all old.Now the million dollar question.Buy one $400 new from Michigan.Buy a used one that could last years or just 5 min.Or reinvent the
>> wheel with sully or 4 bagger.I am really leaning for 2 new from Michigan and my new looking one that has been on for 2 years for a spare.I feel
>> another 30 some odd years on 2 new ones,No???
>> --
>> 77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: [GMCnet] Last Hot Dog [message #265697 is a reply to message #265693] |
Sun, 09 November 2014 01:50 |
Mr ERFisher
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Read here
http://www.bdub.net/sully/
Erf
On Saturday, November 8, 2014, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:
> I heartily concur with JR Wright's opinion below. The Sullybilt system is
> hardly reinventing the wheel! It's simply a means to duplicate the
> original suspension theory and implementation with somewhat different
> hardware, cheaper (and easily found) air bags, and that uses all the
> existing pneumatic (air) system of ALL years of rear suspensions. It also
> takes lower air pressure to support the coach at normal height and you only
> lose about 1/2 inch of total suspension travel. A GOOD deal all around!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
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> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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>> From: powerjon@chartermi.net
>> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:42:03 -0500
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Last Hot Dog
>>
>> Tony,
>> You can put a complete Sully bag system on your coach for less than
> purchasing 2 high dollar original air bags and have a modern system that
> can have the bags replaced for about $140 give or take.
>>
>> http://www.bdub.net/sully/
>>
>>
>> JR Wright
>> 78 Buskirk Stretch
>> 75 Avion
>> Michigan
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:15 PM, anthony ezzo > wrote:
>>>
>>> Well,A few years in and my last of the last stock airbag that was a
> hot dog upside down anyways has finally failed.I started with one that was
> new and
>>> 4 that were all old.Now the million dollar question.Buy one $400 new
> from Michigan.Buy a used one that could last years or just 5 min.Or
> reinvent the
>>> wheel with sully or 4 bagger.I am really leaning for 2 new from
> Michigan and my new looking one that has been on for 2 years for a spare.I
> feel
>>> another 30 some odd years on 2 new ones,No???
>>> --
>>> 77 455 Elaganza II and 67 Animal, Built 500 Powered Eldo
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| Re: Last Hot Dog [message #265702 is a reply to message #265681] |
Sun, 09 November 2014 07:29 |
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Matt Colie
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Cadillackeeper wrote on Sat, 08 November 2014 20:15Well,A few years in and my last of the last stock airbag that was a hot dog upside down anyways has finally failed.I started with one that was new and 4 that were all old.Now the million dollar question.Buy one $400 new from Michigan.Buy a used one that could last years or just 5 min.Or reinvent the wheel with sully or 4 bagger.I am really leaning for 2 new from Michigan and my new looking one that has been on for 2 years for a spare.I feel another 30 some odd years on 2 new ones,No???
Ah... No, Anthony,
The thirty year lifespan was not a given from the OE parts and I don't think that the replacement parts should be counted on for that life for many reasons.
The Sully system has so much going for it that unless you have some driving reason to go with either one of the four bag systems or the off-shore OE like replacement, it is a nolo-contendere.
First is that the intended airspring (what it is really called) is a common part and even shelf stock in many locations.
A Close second is that the available range of travel is very close to the original. Last, at least in my thinking, would be the lower operating pressures. That would mean the pump switch could be turned down for longer air pump life.
I forgot to include price.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Last Hot Dog [message #265711 is a reply to message #265681] |
Sun, 09 November 2014 08:53 |
biggreen
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I love the Sullybags. Probably the easiest installation of anything new I've put on this beast.
R.D.
Northeast Florida
77 ex-Palm Beach 403
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| Re: [GMCnet] Last Hot Dog [message #265712 is a reply to message #265702] |
Sun, 09 November 2014 09:06 |
sgltrac
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Kits in stock and I can have one anywhere in the US in 2-3 days. The bags are in stock and usually cheapest at
Www.sdtrucksprings.com
Or
Michigan truck spring
No tax or freight on the bags and no tax on Sullybilt kit if you are outside of the great state of Wa. Freight for a complete set $34
Lemmeno
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Nov 9, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
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> Cadillackeeper wrote on Sat, 08 November 2014 20:15
>> Well,A few years in and my last of the last stock airbag that was a hot dog upside down anyways has finally failed.I started with one that was new
>> and 4 that were all old.Now the million dollar question.Buy one $400 new from Michigan.Buy a used one that could last years or just 5 min.Or
>> reinvent the wheel with sully or 4 bagger.I am really leaning for 2 new from Michigan and my new looking one that has been on for 2 years for a
>> spare.I feel another 30 some odd years on 2 new ones,No???
>
> Ah... No, Anthony,
>
> The thirty year lifespan was not a given from the OE parts and I don't think that the replacement parts should be counted on for that life for many
> reasons.
>
> The Sully system has so much going for it that unless you have some driving reason to go with either one of the four bag systems or the off-shore OE
> like replacement, it is a nolo-contendere.
> First is that the intended airspring (what it is really called) is a common part and even shelf stock in many locations.
> A Close second is that the available range of travel is very close to the original. Last, at least in my thinking, would be the lower operating
> pressures. That would mean the pump switch could be turned down for longer air pump life.
> I forgot to include price.
>
> Matt
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> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Last Hot Dog [message #265727 is a reply to message #265681] |
Sun, 09 November 2014 11:27 |
winter
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A "new" bag failed catastrophicly after only a few months on my GMC. The bag split down the middle. After that, I didn't trust any of the new replacement bags or my spare used bags which were weather checked. I put on a quad bag set up but any system that uses current production recently built bags is the way to go.
Jerrod Winter
1977 Palm Beach
Green Jelly Bean
Twin Cities, Minnesota
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| Re: Last Hot Dog [message #265743 is a reply to message #265741] |
Sun, 09 November 2014 17:32 |
Otterwan
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Sully FTW!!!!!
Had them for nearly a year. First one took about half an hour to install, 2nd one about 10 minutes. No noticeable difference in ride from original. Firestone bags have an internal bump stop, so even if you blow a bag somehow you can limp down the road. If you keep an eye on the SD Truck Springs website, you can get %20 off and free shipping, which brings the price of a new bag to about $115 delivered.
No doubt in my mind, for price and performance, Sully can't be beat. You can get the Sully hardware for both sides and 3 (2 and a spare) new Firestone airbags for less than the cost of two NOS stock bags.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Last Hot Dog [message #265761 is a reply to message #265743] |
Mon, 10 November 2014 06:51 |
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Tangerine
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On 11/9/2014 6:32 PM, David Orders wrote:
> Sully FTW!!!!!
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> Had them for nearly a year. First one took about half an hour to install, 2nd one about 10 minutes. No noticeable difference in ride from original.
> Firestone bags have an internal bump stop, so even if you blow a bag somehow you can limp down the road. If you keep an eye on the SD Truck Springs
> website, you can get %20 off and free shipping, which brings the price of a new bag to about $115 delivered.
>
> No doubt in my mind, for price and performance, Sully can't be beat. You can get the Sully hardware for both sides and 3 (2 and a spare) new Firestone
> airbags for less than the cost of two NOS stock bags.
I also have these new bags. Only took less than an hour by myself to
install. Had them for about 1 year. I am very happy with them.
Gary Mills
1974 Tangerine Dream
Livonia Michigan
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