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Fri, 07 November 2014 17:41

Jarrar

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Hi,

1977 23ft, transmode, rear bath. Large V8 engine with carburetor.

Bought the RV few months ago, drove it from G. Valley to Yuba City (about an hour drive) & I've been living in it, parked by my friend's house. I have started it & ran it few times but haven't driven it.

It is on Non Op. It passed smog last time in 2012.

I have 2 questions:

1- For those who live in California....I hear that it is possible to register 25 yr old vehicles as Classic with the DMV and pay a one time fee of $25. And they give you Yellow Plates/classic plates.

Now, I got conflicting opinions about this...some say you can only drive it to shows and can't park it on the streets. Some say you can.

Does anyone have an expert opinion/knowledge about this?

Last thing I need is to be towed by the police for parking on the street or driving with it having the Yellow (Classic) plates on it.

2- The RV seem to drive find, no issues.

In order to pass smog (and I am not saying it will not pass), this is just as a pre caution to make sure I don't waste $70 on a smog check and not pass.

Is cleaning and re-gaping the spark plugs helpful towards passing smog?

I know I should warm the engine up before the test.....how much or how long of a drive does this require?

One place told me I should replace the gas or use it all up & start with fresh gas. But the rv has about 20 gallons of gas in it, maybe more and I am not planning on driving 200 miles just to use up the gas.

Does anyone have recommendation that will work towards insuring it will pass smog?

What about additives like B-12 (to the gas) or the "Pass smog" additives sold in Walmart?

They also would need to do Evab test when I take it for smog test.

Thank you for your help.

AJ.

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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265601 is a reply to message #265600]

Fri, 07 November 2014 17:47

Mr ERFisher

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On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:41 PM, AJ wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 1977 23ft, transmode, rear bath. Large V8 engine with carburetor.
>
> Bought the RV few months ago, drove it from G. Valley to Yuba City (about
> an hour drive) & I've been living in it, parked by my friend's house. I have
> started it & ran it few times but haven't driven it.
>
> It is on Non Op. It passed smog last time in 2012.
>
> I have 2 questions:
>
> 1- For those who live in California....I hear that it is possible to
> register 25 yr old vehicles as Classic with the DMV and pay a one time fee
> of
> $25. And they give you Yellow Plates/classic plates.
>
> Now, I got conflicting opinions about this...some say you can only drive
> it to shows and can't park it on the streets. Some say you can.
>
> Does anyone have an expert opinion/knowledge about this?
>
> read here
http://gmcmotorhome.info/antique.html

almost all gmc, are going to or from
rallys
repair

erf

> Last thing I need is to be towed by the police for parking on the street
> or driving with it having the Yellow (Classic) plates on it.
>
> 2- The RV seem to drive find, no issues.
>
> In order to pass smog (and I am not saying it will not pass), this is just
> as a pre caution to make sure I don't waste $70 on a smog check and not
> pass.
>
> take it to Jim K

> Is cleaning and re-gaping the spark plugs helpful towards passing smog?
>
> I know I should warm the engine up before the test.....how much or how
> long of a drive does this require?
>
> One place told me I should replace the gas or use it all up & start with
> fresh gas. But the rv has about 20 gallons of gas in it, maybe more and I
> am
> not planning on driving 200 miles just to use up the gas.
>
> Does anyone have recommendation that will work towards insuring it will
> pass smog?
>
> What about additives like B-12 (to the gas) or the "Pass smog" additives
> sold in Walmart?
>
> They also would need to do Evab test when I take it for smog test.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> AJ.
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Re: Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265603 is a reply to message #265600]

Fri, 07 November 2014 18:20

jtblank

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AJ,
I have a '76 with a 455 with 106K and never had a problem with passing smog, If your engine is running good with no misses I would imagine that you will have no problem either. Your GMC probably has a 403 motor as it is a 1977. I do drive on the freeway about two miles prior to the smog test, other than that nothing special. You will not have have the test on the dyno or to have the evap test as vehicles with two or more fuel tanks are exempt from the evap test. They just verify timing and do the tailpipe analysis and you're out of there. I drive our GMC weekly so the fuel is never really old, I would probably make sure of having fairly recently refueled.

As far as the special registration in California, I would expect it to be more of a problem than it's worth if you use the GMC. If it's just a sitter than maybe.

Good luck,

John Blankenship '76 Palm Beach Tulare, CA

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Re: Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265604 is a reply to message #265603]

Fri, 07 November 2014 18:27

jtblank

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One other thing, since it is on non-op you will have to get a special permit to drive it to the smog test facility, I had a friend that rebuilt a '66 GTO that was on non-op and was ticketed for operation on the street on the way to the smog station,"thank you very much officer"! The need to fund local police budgets has gotten in the way of sensibility.

John Blankenship '76 Palm Beach Tulare, CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265611 is a reply to message #265600]

Fri, 07 November 2014 22:01

David Gardner

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AJ
As a California resident when I was looking around for a 23’ GMC, at first I was absolutely convinced I needed a 1973 / 75 as I was so sure I would have trouble with the smog tests. Miguel Mendez in Pomona wrote back to me the following….

"I smog so many GMC's every year and just do not see what the problem is, 99.9% pass perfect, so what if you need to smog, good god, it is every 2
years, just do it and get over the smog issues, spend the 80.00 bucks and get on down the road, reg out of state is a pian in the @#%, many states now
are going to the smog thing also following CA smog stuff, it is just what we have to do, now, if smog really is such a heart burn issue, go get the
"HISTORICAL PLATES", no matter what year your GMC is, and we do qualify for them, you no longer have to smog, but, there are a few draw back, but, you
can read about them on cadmv.org, just look it up, simple fix or just go get a nice unit, go get it smogged and go camping.

I ended up with a unit out of Florida…a 1976 23’ Birchaven currently being retrofitted at Jim Bounds in Orlando.

I’m sure Miguel would help put your fears to rest. He can be contacted at….
909-982-7747 or mokingo@hotmail.com. Usually best to call.

David Gardner
West Hollywood Ca
1976 23’ Side Bath Birchaven
1982 Corvette all orig with 24,000 miles

> On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:41 PM, AJ wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 1977 23ft, transmode, rear bath. Large V8 engine with carburetor.
>
> Bought the RV few months ago, drove it from G. Valley to Yuba City (about an hour drive) & I've been living in it, parked by my friend's house. I have
> started it & ran it few times but haven't driven it.
>
> It is on Non Op. It passed smog last time in 2012.
>
> I have 2 questions:
>
> 1- For those who live in California....I hear that it is possible to register 25 yr old vehicles as Classic with the DMV and pay a one time fee of
> $25. And they give you Yellow Plates/classic plates.
>
> Now, I got conflicting opinions about this...some say you can only drive it to shows and can't park it on the streets. Some say you can.
>
> Does anyone have an expert opinion/knowledge about this?
>
> Last thing I need is to be towed by the police for parking on the street or driving with it having the Yellow (Classic) plates on it.
>
> 2- The RV seem to drive find, no issues.
>
> In order to pass smog (and I am not saying it will not pass), this is just as a pre caution to make sure I don't waste $70 on a smog check and not
> pass.
>
> Is cleaning and re-gaping the spark plugs helpful towards passing smog?
>
> I know I should warm the engine up before the test.....how much or how long of a drive does this require?
>
> One place told me I should replace the gas or use it all up & start with fresh gas. But the rv has about 20 gallons of gas in it, maybe more and I am
> not planning on driving 200 miles just to use up the gas.
>
> Does anyone have recommendation that will work towards insuring it will pass smog?
>
> What about additives like B-12 (to the gas) or the "Pass smog" additives sold in Walmart?
>
> They also would need to do Evab test when I take it for smog test.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> AJ.
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Re: Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265612 is a reply to message #265600]

Fri, 07 November 2014 22:24

captjack

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As was stated above, they mainly check the tailpipe and timing. Issues I had were the timing too far advanced and it was missing the tube connecting the air cleaner to an area near the exhaust manifold to heat incoming combustion air when the engine is cold.

Jack Christensen - K6ROW, '76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet", Sebastopol, CA

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Re: Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265616 is a reply to message #265604]

Sat, 08 November 2014 00:30

Jarrar

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jtblank wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 16:27

One other thing, since it is on non-op you will have to get a special permit to drive it to the smog test facility, I had a friend that rebuilt a '66 GTO that was on non-op and was ticketed for operation on the street on the way to the smog station,"thank you very much officer"! The need to fund local police budgets has gotten in the way of sensibility.

If your friend only got a ticket for driving on a non op registration then 1- he is lucky and 2- He must've been White. Because I know when I did it the officer towed my car because I drove it while it was on non-op, it does not matter the reason. But I am not white and I have an accent...sorry to say it but officers (many of them) are racist assholes.

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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265617 is a reply to message #265611]

Sat, 08 November 2014 00:34

Jarrar

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[quote title=David Gardner wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 20:01]AJ
As a California resident when I was looking around for a 23' GMC, at first I was absolutely convinced I needed a 1973 / 75 as I was so sure I would have trouble with the smog tests. Miguel Mendez in Pomona wrote back to me the following....

"I smog so many GMC's every year and just do not see what the problem is, 99.9% pass perfect, so what if you need to smog, good god, it is every 2
years, just do it and get over the smog issues, spend the 80.00 bucks and get on down the road, reg out of state is a pian in the @#%, many states now
are going to the smog thing also following CA smog stuff, it is just what we have to do, now, if smog really is such a heart burn issue, go get the
"HISTORICAL PLATES", no matter what year your GMC is, and we do qualify for them, you no longer have to smog, but, there are a few draw back, but, you
can read about them on cadmv.org, just look it up, simple fix or just go get a nice unit, go get it smogged and go camping.

I ended up with a unit out of Florida...a 1976 23' Birchaven currently being retrofitted at Jim Bounds in Orlando.

I'm sure Miguel would help put your fears to rest. He can be contacted at....
909-982-7747 or mokingo@hotmail.com. Usually best to call.

David Gardner
West Hollywood Ca
1976 23' Side Bath Birchaven
1982 Corvette all orig with 24,000 miles

Your response really does not answer my questions since I am not asking about registering it out of state, I am registering it in CA where I am.

My question was about the Historical Plates...if someone has experience with them...if I will be harrassed and pulled over by cops constantly or worse...have the RV towed by the cops.

My concern is NOT about spending the $80 to smog it, my concern about it not passing and having to pay again and again to get it to pass and was asking about pointers to make sure it passes the first time...I don't have the money or time to keep paying.

That was my question.

Thank you.

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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265619 is a reply to message #265616]

Sat, 08 November 2014 00:57

Guy Lopes

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Location: Sacramento, CA

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AJ, I respectfully disagree. Granted, there are some "racist asshole" cops,
but thankfully they are in the minority. There are also "racist asshole"
fire fighters, soccer players, burger flippers, politicians and, what do you
do? Well, they are there too. Also, out of all of the racists that I've ever
met, they are not all white.

I'm an ex-cop and I'm definitely not a racist and personally know very few
in my neck of the woods. I also like to think that I'm not an asshole, but
please tell me if I'm wrong.

Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL

www.GMC-Guy.com

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jtblank wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 16:27
> One other thing, since it is on non-op you will have to get a special
> permit to drive it to the smog test facility, I had a friend that
> rebuilt a
> '66 GTO that was on non-op and was ticketed for operation on the
> street on the way to the smog station,"thank you very much officer"! The
need to fund local police budgets has gotten in the way of sensibility.

If your friend only got a ticket for driving on a non op registration then
1- he is lucky and 2- He must've been White. Because I know when I did it
the officer towed my car because I drove it while it was on non-op, it does
not matter the reason. But I am not white and I have an accent...sorry to
say it but officers (many of them) are racist assholes.
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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265620 is a reply to message #265617]

Sat, 08 November 2014 01:02

Len Novak

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I owned a 76 Birchaven for five years, always passed

We have a 78 Kingsley, passed with old gas, new gas, plugs that were
misgapped, passed with new plugs, old exhaust system, now a new exhaust
system

Most of the time the guy or kid running the test has no idea what he is
looking at to begin with.

Typical question..how do you know it is a 403?..........my
answer.............that's what the sticker on the air cleaner says.

Make sure it is warm, timing is correct, and all the pieces are there, mine
was missing the tube from the exhaust manifold for years before anyone
caught it.

Len and Pat
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375

www.bdub.net/novak/

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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:35 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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[quote title=David Gardner wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 20:01]AJ As a
California resident when I was looking around for a 23' GMC, at first I was
absolutely convinced I needed a 1973 / 75 as I was so sure I would have
trouble with the smog tests. Miguel Mendez in Pomona wrote back to me the
following....

"I smog so many GMC's every year and just do not see what the problem is,
99.9% pass perfect, so what if you need to smog, good god, it is every 2
years, just do it and get over the smog issues, spend the 80.00 bucks and
get on down the road, reg out of state is a pian in the @#%, many states now
are going to the smog thing also following CA smog stuff, it is just what we
have to do, now, if smog really is such a heart burn issue, go get the
"HISTORICAL PLATES", no matter what year your GMC is, and we do qualify for
them, you no longer have to smog, but, there are a few draw back, but, you
can read about them on cadmv.org, just look it up, simple fix or just go
get a nice unit, go get it smogged and go camping.

I ended up with a unit out of Florida...a 1976 23' Birchaven currently being
retrofitted at Jim Bounds in Orlando.

I'm sure Miguel would help put your fears to rest. He can be contacted
at....
909-982-7747 or mokingo@hotmail.com. Usually best to call.

David Gardner
West Hollywood Ca
1976 23' Side Bath Birchaven
1982 Corvette all orig with 24,000 miles

Your response really does not answer my questions since I am not asking
about registering it out of state, I am registering it in CA where I am.

My question was about the Historical Plates...if someone has experience with
them...if I will be harrassed and pulled over by cops constantly or
worse...have the RV towed by the cops.

My concern is NOT about spending the $80 to smog it, my concern about it not
passing and having to pay again and again to get it to pass and was asking
about pointers to make sure it passes the first time...I don't have the
money or time to keep paying.

That was my question.

Thank you.
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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265621 is a reply to message #265619]

Sat, 08 November 2014 01:20

USAussie

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Guy,

Don't let this guy get to you!

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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AJ, I respectfully disagree. Granted, there are some "racist asshole" cops,
but thankfully they are in the minority. There are also "racist asshole"
fire fighters, soccer players, burger flippers, politicians and, what do you
do? Well, they are there too. Also, out of all of the racists that I've ever
met, they are not all white.

I'm an ex-cop and I'm definitely not a racist and personally know very few
in my neck of the woods. I also like to think that I'm not an asshole, but
please tell me if I'm wrong.

Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL

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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265622 is a reply to message #265621]

Sat, 08 November 2014 01:39

Guy Lopes

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Thanks Rob. There's not much that gets to me. I just wanted to present a
different opinion based on my experience. Sorry for straying off topic.

You own two Avions, and I have owned two Avions. My Bro in-law just bought
one. We'll be in touch. Lol

Back on topic: I did own a 1985 SOB Southwind (?). I remember that there was
no problem passing smog. Just as others have mentioned, timing on, clean air
filter, warmed up and good gas. No dyno involved, just an exhaust sniffer.
This was in Sacramento about ten years ago. Good luck!

Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL

www.GMC-Guy.com

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Guy,

Don't let this guy get to you!

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble
TZE365V100426

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AJ, I respectfully disagree. Granted, there are some "racist asshole" cops,
but thankfully they are in the minority. There are also "racist asshole"
fire fighters, soccer players, burger flippers, politicians and, what do you
do? Well, they are there too. Also, out of all of the racists that I've ever
met, they are not all white.

I'm an ex-cop and I'm definitely not a racist and personally know very few
in my neck of the woods. I also like to think that I'm not an asshole, but
please tell me if I'm wrong.

Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL

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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265623 is a reply to message #265619]

Sat, 08 November 2014 02:53

Jarrar

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TAWPTool wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 22:57

AJ, I respectfully disagree. Granted, there are some "racist asshole" cops,
but thankfully they are in the minority. There are also "racist asshole"
fire fighters, soccer players, burger flippers, politicians and, what do you
do? Well, they are there too. Also, out of all of the racists that I've ever
met, they are not all white.

I'm an ex-cop and I'm definitely not a racist and personally know very few
in my neck of the woods. I also like to think that I'm not an asshole, but
please tell me if I'm wrong.

Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL

www.GMC-Guy.com

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jtblank wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 16:27
> One other thing, since it is on non-op you will have to get a special
> permit to drive it to the smog test facility, I had a friend that
> rebuilt a
> '66 GTO that was on non-op and was ticketed for operation on the
> street on the way to the smog station,"thank you very much officer"! The
need to fund local police budgets has gotten in the way of sensibility.

If your friend only got a ticket for driving on a non op registration then
1- he is lucky and 2- He must've been White. Because I know when I did it
the officer towed my car because I drove it while it was on non-op, it does
not matter the reason. But I am not white and I have an accent...sorry to
say it but officers (many of them) are racist assholes.
_______________________________________________

Guy,

Clearly I am not talking about you, nor do I know you.

I am speaking about my personal experiences from 36 yrs of living in CA. If you are White you are treated differently by many cops....that is a well publicized fact. Not just me saying it.

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Sat, 08 November 2014 05:15

USAussie

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AJ,

Quite frankly I for one find it most inappropriate to read your protestations about racism on this forum. I would suggest you
restrict yourself to questions or comments that relate directly to your GMC motorhome.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of AJ
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions.

Guy,

Clearly I am not talking about you, nor do I know you.

I am speaking about my personal experiences from 36 yrs of living in CA. If you are White you are treated differently by many
cops....that is a well publicized fact. Not just me saying it.

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Re: Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265629 is a reply to message #265600]

Sat, 08 November 2014 08:40

mrgmc3

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Back to topic;
1) emissions test should not be a problem, do as others have suggested and drive the coach for several miles ( like 20) to fully warm up before the test. Ensure that your base ignition timing is set within 2 deg of spec. Make sure all the vacuum hoses are hooked up correctly. They do an idle and 2500 rpm in park tailpipe test, as well as a base timing check and underhood visual inspection. The reason most will fail the tailpipe test is if the carb is set way rich or lean, or if the ignition system has a slight misfire due to old plug wires. Clean and gap your plugs, buy a new set of wires if you know they are more than 10 years old. In the worst case if you need help, Applied in N Cal or Miguel in SoCal will get it across the line for you.
2) the collector or historical plate issue. If you plan to use the coach for anything other than rallies, I'd recommend against it. You can check the DMV site for specific uses, but if I recall you are limited to shows, special events and limited annual mileage. Other uses open you up for a potential penalty. A regular plate is just not that hard to get.

Chris Geils - Twin Cities / W Wa 1978 26' Kingsley w/ very few mods; PD9040, aux trans cooler, one repaint in stock colors, R134a, Al rad, Alcoas, 54k mi

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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265643 is a reply to message #265617]

Sat, 08 November 2014 10:29

David Gardner

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AJ
If you go to….
cadmv.org
it will explain everything you want to know about Ca “Historical plates” better than I can. From there, you will have to decide on your own if it is something you want to do. I looked into it, and because I will be using my coach a lot for non GMC events traveling across the country back and back, for me I decided it was not a good fit. For you it may.
Good Luck
Dave

> On Nov 7, 2014, at 10:34 PM, AJ wrote:
>
> [quote title=David Gardner wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 20:01]AJ
> As a California resident when I was looking around for a 23' GMC, at first I was absolutely convinced I needed a 1973 / 75 as I was so sure I would
> have trouble with the smog tests. Miguel Mendez in Pomona wrote back to me the following....
>
> "I smog so many GMC's every year and just do not see what the problem is, 99.9% pass perfect, so what if you need to smog, good god, it is every 2
> years, just do it and get over the smog issues, spend the 80.00 bucks and get on down the road, reg out of state is a pian in the @#%, many states
> now
> are going to the smog thing also following CA smog stuff, it is just what we have to do, now, if smog really is such a heart burn issue, go get the
> "HISTORICAL PLATES", no matter what year your GMC is, and we do qualify for them, you no longer have to smog, but, there are a few draw back, but,
> you
> can read about them on cadmv.org, just look it up, simple fix or just go get a nice unit, go get it smogged and go camping.
>
> I ended up with a unit out of Florida...a 1976 23' Birchaven currently being retrofitted at Jim Bounds in Orlando.
>
> I'm sure Miguel would help put your fears to rest. He can be contacted at....
> 909-982-7747 or mokingo@hotmail.com. Usually best to call.
>
> David Gardner
> West Hollywood Ca
> 1976 23' Side Bath Birchaven
> 1982 Corvette all orig with 24,000 miles
>
>
> Your response really does not answer my questions since I am not asking about registering it out of state, I am registering it in CA where I am.
>
> My question was about the Historical Plates...if someone has experience with them...if I will be harrassed and pulled over by cops constantly or
> worse...have the RV towed by the cops.
>
> My concern is NOT about spending the $80 to smog it, my concern about it not passing and having to pay again and again to get it to pass and was
> asking about pointers to make sure it passes the first time...I don't have the money or time to keep paying.
>
> That was my question.
>
> Thank you.
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Re: [GMCnet] Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265645 is a reply to message #265643]

Sat, 08 November 2014 10:42

Sammy Williams

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If you live in California, just deal with it and smog it. or move to a
state where its not an issue. Many states in the U.S. DO NOT smog. At all.
If your military you can legally tag in your home of record as opposed to
CA if your stationed there.

The smog standards for 1970s vehicles is so "low" compared to other years,
it should pass if it runs. lol

S. Williams

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:29 AM, David Gardner
wrote:

> AJ
> If you go to….
> cadmv.org
> it will explain everything you want to know about Ca “Historical plates”
> better than I can. From there, you will have to decide on your own if it
> is something you want to do. I looked into it, and because I will be using
> my coach a lot for non GMC events traveling across the country back and
> back, for me I decided it was not a good fit. For you it may.
> Good Luck
> Dave
>
>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 10:34 PM, AJ wrote:
>>
>> [quote title=David Gardner wrote on Fri, 07 November 2014 20:01]AJ
>> As a California resident when I was looking around for a 23' GMC, at
> first I was absolutely convinced I needed a 1973 / 75 as I was so sure I
> would
>> have trouble with the smog tests. Miguel Mendez in Pomona wrote back to
> me the following....
>>
>> "I smog so many GMC's every year and just do not see what the problem
> is, 99.9% pass perfect, so what if you need to smog, good god, it is every 2
>> years, just do it and get over the smog issues, spend the 80.00 bucks
> and get on down the road, reg out of state is a pian in the @#%, many states
>> now
>> are going to the smog thing also following CA smog stuff, it is just
> what we have to do, now, if smog really is such a heart burn issue, go get
> the
>> "HISTORICAL PLATES", no matter what year your GMC is, and we do qualify
> for them, you no longer have to smog, but, there are a few draw back, but,
>> you
>> can read about them on cadmv.org, just look it up, simple fix or just
> go get a nice unit, go get it smogged and go camping.
>>
>> I ended up with a unit out of Florida...a 1976 23' Birchaven currently
> being retrofitted at Jim Bounds in Orlando.
>>
>> I'm sure Miguel would help put your fears to rest. He can be contacted
> at....
>> 909-982-7747 or mokingo@hotmail.com. Usually best to call.
>>
>> David Gardner
>> West Hollywood Ca
>> 1976 23' Side Bath Birchaven
>> 1982 Corvette all orig with 24,000 miles
>>
>>
>> Your response really does not answer my questions since I am not asking
> about registering it out of state, I am registering it in CA where I am.
>>
>> My question was about the Historical Plates...if someone has experience
> with them...if I will be harrassed and pulled over by cops constantly or
>> worse...have the RV towed by the cops.
>>
>> My concern is NOT about spending the $80 to smog it, my concern about it
> not passing and having to pay again and again to get it to pass and was
>> asking about pointers to make sure it passes the first time...I don't
> have the money or time to keep paying.
>>
>> That was my question.
>>
>> Thank you.
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Re: Passing Smog & Registration questions. [message #265789 is a reply to message #265600]

Mon, 10 November 2014 12:26

Luvn737s

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The $80 smog test is about the cheapest part of GMC ownership. There are much more comfortable places to live than a GMC. Sell it and when you are in a better financial place to enjoy one, find the best one you can afford.

Randy
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Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ

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