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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265428 is a reply to message #265422] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 11:26 |
k2gkk
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Thanks for expounding on my post, Dave. I was unaware that a 16,000 pound lift would be required.
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> From: dave@mumert.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:20:36 -0700
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool
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> Hi
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> These lifts are typically rated for a balanced load (6000 pounds front and 6000 pounds rear). The GMC would have more like 8000
> pounds on the rear so would require a 16000 pound lift. The HF lift is only 116 inches between the posts so you would need to fold
> the mirrors and watch very closely when you drive onto it, good luck if you have Ramco mirrors.
>
> Dave Mumert
> '76 Eleganza II
> Alberta, CA
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of D C _Mac_ Macdonald
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:10 AM
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>> Subject: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool
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>> (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200593934_200593934)
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>> Info for those with the space and money to install one.
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265429 is a reply to message #265422] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 11:20 |
Dave Mumert
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Hi
These lifts are typically rated for a balanced load (6000 pounds front and 6000 pounds rear). The GMC would have more like 8000
pounds on the rear so would require a 16000 pound lift. The HF lift is only 116 inches between the posts so you would need to fold
the mirrors and watch very closely when you drive onto it, good luck if you have Ramco mirrors.
Dave Mumert
'76 Eleganza II
Alberta, CA
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:10 AM
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> Subject: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool
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> (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200593934_200593934)
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> Info for those with the space and money to install one.
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265430 is a reply to message #265429] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 11:34 |
Otterwan
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OK, everyone chip in and have one shipped to my shop. I promise I'll test it thoroughly and report the results ;o)
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265433 is a reply to message #265422] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 12:05 |
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USAussie
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Mac,
John Sharpe and I did a LOT of research into lifts awhile back we came up with the following lift as the best for a GMC:
Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/ns9vpy5
Full URL:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BendPak-Extended-HDS-14X-4-Post-Lift-14000LB-Rugged-Truck-Car-Lift-Limo-Style-/221264793367?hash=item338468c
f17&item=221264793367&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
Below you will find some detailed information on this lift and GMC's:
Rob, I have been going over the specs on the lift. I measured the distance of the mirrors with a plumb bob and determined that the
measurement is 112.5 inches. The track of the wheels on the GMC with spacers is 87" on the front and the rear is 91".
With a column width of 120" this gives less that 3.75" clearance on each side. The track for the lift is 91", meaning there is a 2"
clearance for the front axle and the rear tires at 91" would be flush on each side. The movable runway can be set to a maximum tire
drive-through clearance 98" which gives a 3.5" clearance on each side. How they measure the runway length gives 206"for the GMC
which is more than enough with the runway length of 229". The doorway is wider than the entire lift measurement of 130". I think
these measurements give adequate if not some tight dimensions for use with the GMC.
Rob, Bendpak is a well known brand that is used by a lot of shops. I like the 120" drive through width. I need to go over and
measure the doors to make sure the ones in 88 are 10' doors; measure the wheelbase of the GMC & Spectrum; and check the weight of
the axles on the coaches. This one specifies 7000# front & rear capacity. I would think that all the others would have equal
capacity on positions. I'm not really concerned about being able to pick up the Spectrum if it costs thousands more.
John
We wound up buying four tower lifts off Craigslist that roll out and lift the wheels. The towers have a capacity of 15,000 pounds
each so we can lift a vehicle up to 60,000 lbs. Since these lifts were designed for big rigs we had to come up with some
modifications for the smaller front wheels and way to lift the rear under the bogie and frame as we feared lifting just one rear
wheel could damage the shock absorbers of the OEM single bag system. I have a mate with a truck maintenance company across the
street from my workshop in Sydney and he lets me use this type of lift whenever I need to. I've included a link to a photosite
below. Unfortunately the lift we purchased in Houston were three phase and so we had to purchase four phase converters to make them
work. We got them to work but have yet to lift a GMC with them due to other projects. The nice thing about these is that you can
roll them into a corner out of the way when you're not using them. Believe it or not they are stored in my 40' x 18' storage unit
along with my project VW towd, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and my GMC.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/the-blue-streak/p31717-lucky-bugger-ain-t-i.html
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: D C _Mac_ Macdonald
(http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200593934_200593934)
Info for those with the space and money to install one.
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265434 is a reply to message #265433] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 12:28 |
k2gkk
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I just ran across the lift I cited in a regular flyer I get every few days from Northern Tool.
No place to put one or money to buy one; just forwarded for general possible useful info.
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~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 05:05:39 +1100
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool
>
> Mac,
>
> John Sharpe and I did a LOT of research into lifts awhile back we came up with the following lift as the best for a GMC:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/ns9vpy5
>
> Full URL:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BendPak-Extended-HDS-14X-4-Post-Lift-14000LB-Rugged-Truck-Car-Lift-Limo-Style-/221264793367?hash=item338468c
> f17&item=221264793367&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
>
> Below you will find some detailed information on this lift and GMC's:
>
> Rob, I have been going over the specs on the lift. I measured the distance of the mirrors with a plumb bob and determined that the
> measurement is 112.5 inches. The track of the wheels on the GMC with spacers is 87" on the front and the rear is 91".
>
> With a column width of 120" this gives less that 3.75" clearance on each side. The track for the lift is 91", meaning there is a 2"
> clearance for the front axle and the rear tires at 91" would be flush on each side. The movable runway can be set to a maximum tire
> drive-through clearance 98" which gives a 3.5" clearance on each side. How they measure the runway length gives 206"for the GMC
> which is more than enough with the runway length of 229". The doorway is wider than the entire lift measurement of 130". I think
> these measurements give adequate if not some tight dimensions for use with the GMC.
>
> Rob, Bendpak is a well known brand that is used by a lot of shops. I like the 120" drive through width. I need to go over and
> measure the doors to make sure the ones in 88 are 10' doors; measure the wheelbase of the GMC & Spectrum; and check the weight of
> the axles on the coaches. This one specifies 7000# front & rear capacity. I would think that all the others would have equal
> capacity on positions. I'm not really concerned about being able to pick up the Spectrum if it costs thousands more.
>
> John
>
> We wound up buying four tower lifts off Craigslist that roll out and lift the wheels. The towers have a capacity of 15,000 pounds
> each so we can lift a vehicle up to 60,000 lbs. Since these lifts were designed for big rigs we had to come up with some
> modifications for the smaller front wheels and way to lift the rear under the bogie and frame as we feared lifting just one rear
> wheel could damage the shock absorbers of the OEM single bag system. I have a mate with a truck maintenance company across the
> street from my workshop in Sydney and he lets me use this type of lift whenever I need to. I've included a link to a photosite
> below. Unfortunately the lift we purchased in Houston were three phase and so we had to purchase four phase converters to make them
> work. We got them to work but have yet to lift a GMC with them due to other projects. The nice thing about these is that you can
> roll them into a corner out of the way when you're not using them. Believe it or not they are stored in my 40' x 18' storage unit
> along with my project VW towd, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and my GMC.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/the-blue-streak/p31717-lucky-bugger-ain-t-i.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265443 is a reply to message #265434] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 13:23 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Mac,
Well when you win the OK Lottery you now KNOW which lift to buy and put in your new custom built workshop! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: D C _Mac_ Macdonald
I just ran across the lift I cited in a regular flyer I get every few days from Northern Tool.
No place to put one or money to buy one; just forwarded for general possible useful info.
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 05:05:39 +1100
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool
>
> Mac,
>
> John Sharpe and I did a LOT of research into lifts awhile back we came up with the following lift as the best for a GMC:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/ns9vpy5
>
> Full URL:
>
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BendPak-Extended-HDS-14X-4-Post-Lift-14000LB-Rugged-Truck-Car-Lift-Limo-Style-/221264793367?hash=item338468c
> f17&item=221264793367&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
>
> Below you will find some detailed information on this lift and GMC's:
>
> Rob, I have been going over the specs on the lift. I measured the distance of the mirrors with a plumb bob and determined that
the
> measurement is 112.5 inches. The track of the wheels on the GMC with spacers is 87" on the front and the rear is 91".
>
> With a column width of 120" this gives less that 3.75" clearance on each side. The track for the lift is 91", meaning there is a
2"
> clearance for the front axle and the rear tires at 91" would be flush on each side. The movable runway can be set to a maximum
tire
> drive-through clearance 98" which gives a 3.5" clearance on each side. How they measure the runway length gives 206"for the GMC
> which is more than enough with the runway length of 229". The doorway is wider than the entire lift measurement of 130". I think
> these measurements give adequate if not some tight dimensions for use with the GMC.
>
> Rob, Bendpak is a well known brand that is used by a lot of shops. I like the 120" drive through width. I need to go over and
> measure the doors to make sure the ones in 88 are 10' doors; measure the wheelbase of the GMC & Spectrum; and check the weight of
> the axles on the coaches. This one specifies 7000# front & rear capacity. I would think that all the others would have equal
> capacity on positions. I'm not really concerned about being able to pick up the Spectrum if it costs thousands more.
>
> John
>
> We wound up buying four tower lifts off Craigslist that roll out and lift the wheels. The towers have a capacity of 15,000 pounds
> each so we can lift a vehicle up to 60,000 lbs. Since these lifts were designed for big rigs we had to come up with some
> modifications for the smaller front wheels and way to lift the rear under the bogie and frame as we feared lifting just one rear
> wheel could damage the shock absorbers of the OEM single bag system. I have a mate with a truck maintenance company across the
> street from my workshop in Sydney and he lets me use this type of lift whenever I need to. I've included a link to a photosite
> below. Unfortunately the lift we purchased in Houston were three phase and so we had to purchase four phase converters to make
them
> work. We got them to work but have yet to lift a GMC with them due to other projects. The nice thing about these is that you can
> roll them into a corner out of the way when you're not using them. Believe it or not they are stored in my 40' x 18' storage unit
> along with my project VW towd, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and my GMC.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/the-blue-streak/p31717-lucky-bugger-ain-t-i.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265445 is a reply to message #265443] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 13:59 |
k2gkk
Messages: 4452 Registered: November 2009
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IMNHO, lotteries are voluntary taxes paid for by suckers!
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 06:23:11 +1100
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool
>
> Mac,
>
> Well when you win the OK Lottery you now KNOW which lift to buy and put in your new custom built workshop! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265468 is a reply to message #265445] |
Tue, 04 November 2014 22:25 |
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mike miller
Messages: 3576 Registered: February 2004 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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k2gkk wrote on Tue, 04 November 2014 11:59IMNHO, lotteries are voluntary taxes paid for by suckers! ...
I have always figured the first dollar was buying "dreaming rights" but anything over the first dollar was "Stupidity Tax!"
But my main reason to reply is the Northern Tool four post lift has an Overall Length of 235 inches... something like 19.5 feet.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265486 is a reply to message #265422] |
Wed, 05 November 2014 09:30 |
rcjordan
Messages: 1913 Registered: October 2012 Location: Elizabeth City, North Car...
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12k 4-post lifts are fairly routine on craigslist for $2k. Most want you to dismantle them for that price, but not always. Larger capacity, chain-drive (vs cable) lifts DO come up infrequently, though. I was able to find an 18k chain-drive. 'Texas-style' 4-poster with 204" X 22" runways for $3500 but it needed $500 of additional parts. Parts for Texas-style lifts, and maybe some other types, are available here:
http://www.sviinternational.com/products/vehicle-shop-equipment-repair-parts/auto-lift-repair-products/auto-lift-repair-parts
database: http://www.sviinternational.com/parts-database
Online parts catalog:
http://www.allpartssupply.com/FP-ALL-LIFTSCatalog.pdf
Note: Texas-style lifts are somewhat generic and many parts are interchangeable between brands.
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265506 is a reply to message #265503] |
Wed, 05 November 2014 16:45 |
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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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Rob,
An inch and three quarters is plenty and that is total by the way. That is 7/8 both sides.
When I pull my coach into the work bay, if I set the left mirror to touch the right has about an inch.
Yes, I have to be REAL careful when I back it out. Some times it takes more than one try.
If you are ever in northern Michigan, stop at the locks and watch a ship go through. They know what size the locks are and that is just a very little more than the size the make the ships these days.
Matt
USAussie wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 17:18G'day,
The CR 414 looks OK but the width between columns is 114 1/4" (9' 6") and Ramco Mirrors stick out 112.5 inches so you have 1.75
clearance on each side which is tight. As far as turning the Ramco's goes the early models are have a triangular shape to them and no matter how you turn them you don't gain much clearance if any.
Regards,
Rob M.
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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Re: [GMCnet] Four Post 12,000 Pound Lift at Northern Tool [message #265514 is a reply to message #265506] |
Wed, 05 November 2014 19:20 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Matt,
DOUH! Naturally you're correct, the reason I mentioned it is because the BendPak lift with a column width of 120" gives 3.75"
clearance on each side.
Inside Column width: 120.00" - 112.50" = 7.5" / 2 = 3.75" per side.
http://www.bendpak.com/HDS-14-14X%20Manual%20REV%20B%2007-09-10.pdf
It is available on eBay for: $4590 with FREE SHIPPING
Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/ns9vpy5
Full URL:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BendPak-Extended-HDS-14X-4-Post-Lift-14000LB-Rugged-Truck-Car-Lift-Limo-Style-/221264793367?hash=item338468c
f17&item=221264793367&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
I just got off the phone with http://shopequipmentla.com/four-post-lifts/ (909)-225-5388 and the cost to ship a CR 14 to Hobbs NM is
$900. Adding that to $3995 you get $4895 therefore the wider BendPak lift is cheaper!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Matt Colie
Rob,
An inch and three quarters is plenty and that is total by the way. That is 7/8 both sides.
When I pull my coach into the work bay, if I set the left mirror to touch the right has about an inch.
Yes, I have to be REAL careful when I back it out. Some times it takes more than one try.
If you are ever in northern Michigan, stop at the locks and watch a ship go through. They know what size the locks are and that is
just a very little more than the size the make the ships these days.
Matt
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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