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Wed, 08 October 2014 19:15  |
Daniel DeLuca
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Hello,
One of the last nagging issues with my coach was a disconcerting rattle that came from the steering wheel. From the advice of Alex F. I was able to buy a new steering column bearing kit. I thought it would be pretty simple to swap out. But I can not get the sliding shaft attached to the cv joint to separate from the steering column. I believe the seal between the steering column splines and collar is broken but I can’t get the shaft to slide anymore. Any hints on getting this off? It is getting to be very frustrating.
Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Simple Steering issue turning into a headache [message #263806 is a reply to message #263804] |
Wed, 08 October 2014 19:35  |
Daniel DeLuca
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Kevin,
Yes, but I can’t get the column separated from the CV joint.
Your second picture shows what I would like to separate
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44342-water-finds-it-s-way.html
The green arrow points to the collar that clamps down the splines. I have the collar loose, but I can not separate the two. Do I have to remove the bottom from the steering box first?
Dan
On Oct 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> On 10/8/2014 5:15 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> One of the last nagging issues with my coach was a disconcerting rattle that came from the steering wheel. From the advice of Alex F. I was able to buy a new steering column bearing kit. I thought it would be pretty simple to swap out. But I can not get the sliding shaft attached to the cv joint to separate from the steering column. I believe the seal between the steering column splines and collar is broken but I can’t get the shaft to slide anymore. Any hints on getting this off? It is getting to be very frustrating.
>>
>> Dan
>
> Maybe.
> The way I read it you're having no luck getting the blue-coated shaft
> out of it's mating part in the Steering Shaft Assembly.
>
> If so, I had the same problem. Stuck solid and the movement and rattle
> in the whole steering column was indeed disconcerting.
>
> This is what I ended up doing. Drilled a hole and drifted the blue
> shaft out of the lower housing. Then I plugged the hole and drilled a
> breather hole in the plug.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44345-steering-shaft-parts.html
>
> If that's what you're asking about. :^)
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] Simple Steering issue turning into a headache [message #263808 is a reply to message #263806] |
Wed, 08 October 2014 19:42 |
kelvin
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Once you unbolt the CV joint (those six bolts on top) you should be able
to get it all apart. Without that blue shaft moving you'll never get
that CV joint "cap" off of the steering shaft (that goes up the the
steering wheel)
Make sure you mark everything so you can get it all put back together
correctly. Mark MORE stuff than you need to, in fact, just to be sure.
Kelvin
On 10/8/2014 5:35 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Yes, but I can’t get the column separated from the CV joint.
>
> Your second picture shows what I would like to separate
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44342-water-finds-it-s-way.html
>
> The green arrow points to the collar that clamps down the splines. I have the collar loose, but I can not separate the two. Do I have to remove the bottom from the steering box first?
>
> Dan
> On Oct 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>
>> On 10/8/2014 5:15 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> One of the last nagging issues with my coach was a disconcerting rattle that came from the steering wheel. From the advice of Alex F. I was able to buy a new steering column bearing kit. I thought it would be pretty simple to swap out. But I can not get the sliding shaft attached to the cv joint to separate from the steering column. I believe the seal between the steering column splines and collar is broken but I can’t get the shaft to slide anymore. Any hints on getting this off? It is getting to be very frustrating.
>>>
>>> Dan
>> Maybe.
>> The way I read it you're having no luck getting the blue-coated shaft
>> out of it's mating part in the Steering Shaft Assembly.
>>
>> If so, I had the same problem. Stuck solid and the movement and rattle
>> in the whole steering column was indeed disconcerting.
>>
>> This is what I ended up doing. Drilled a hole and drifted the blue
>> shaft out of the lower housing. Then I plugged the hole and drilled a
>> breather hole in the plug.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44345-steering-shaft-parts.html
>>
>> If that's what you're asking about. :^)
>>
>> Kelvin
>> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] Simple Steering issue turning into a headache [message #263809 is a reply to message #263808] |
Wed, 08 October 2014 20:29 |
Daniel DeLuca
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Thanks, thats exactly what I was looking for. I was going to take the bolts out but was unsure. I guess I really need to free up that shaft one way or the other or it will probably just smash up the next bearing.
Dan
On Oct 8, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>
> Once you unbolt the CV joint (those six bolts on top) you should be able
> to get it all apart. Without that blue shaft moving you'll never get
> that CV joint "cap" off of the steering shaft (that goes up the the
> steering wheel)
>
> Make sure you mark everything so you can get it all put back together
> correctly. Mark MORE stuff than you need to, in fact, just to be sure.
>
> Kelvin
>
> On 10/8/2014 5:35 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Yes, but I can’t get the column separated from the CV joint.
>>
>> Your second picture shows what I would like to separate
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44342-water-finds-it-s-way.html
>>
>> The green arrow points to the collar that clamps down the splines. I have the collar loose, but I can not separate the two. Do I have to remove the bottom from the steering box first?
>>
>> Dan
>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/8/2014 5:15 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> One of the last nagging issues with my coach was a disconcerting rattle that came from the steering wheel. From the advice of Alex F. I was able to buy a new steering column bearing kit. I thought it would be pretty simple to swap out. But I can not get the sliding shaft attached to the cv joint to separate from the steering column. I believe the seal between the steering column splines and collar is broken but I can’t get the shaft to slide anymore. Any hints on getting this off? It is getting to be very frustrating.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>> Maybe.
>>> The way I read it you're having no luck getting the blue-coated shaft
>>> out of it's mating part in the Steering Shaft Assembly.
>>>
>>> If so, I had the same problem. Stuck solid and the movement and rattle
>>> in the whole steering column was indeed disconcerting.
>>>
>>> This is what I ended up doing. Drilled a hole and drifted the blue
>>> shaft out of the lower housing. Then I plugged the hole and drilled a
>>> breather hole in the plug.
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-shaft/p44345-steering-shaft-parts.html
>>>
>>> If that's what you're asking about. :^)
>>>
>>> Kelvin
>>> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] Simple Steering issue turning into a headache [message #263811 is a reply to message #263801] |
Wed, 08 October 2014 20:58 |
Ken Henderson
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Dan,
Rather than drilling, drifting, and plugging the lower shaft, you may
want to make a simple jig to attach the upper and lower halves to a
come-a-long and pull them apart.
Ken H.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
> Hello,
>
> One of the last nagging issues with my coach was a disconcerting rattle that came from the steering wheel. From the advice of Alex F. I was able to buy a new steering column bearing kit. I thought it would be pretty simple to swap out. But I can not get the sliding shaft attached to the cv joint to separate from the steering column. I believe the seal between the steering column splines and collar is broken but I can’t get the shaft to slide anymore. Any hints on getting this off? It is getting to be very frustrating.
>
> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Simple Steering issue turning into a headache [message #263815 is a reply to message #263811] |
Wed, 08 October 2014 21:18 |
kelvin
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My way sounds a lot less involved - at least to me. A drill and a tap
and a pipe plug. :-)
I'm trying to figure out what I would bolt it down to that would hold
solid while I pulled. If I had a big press I could make it work for that.
Everyone has their tooling limitations. Could be the come-along idea
works great for Daniel. We're all about options here!
Oh boy, are we. :-)
Kelvin
On 10/8/2014 6:58 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Dan,
>
> Rather than drilling, drifting, and plugging the lower shaft, you may
> want to make a simple jig to attach the upper and lower halves to a
> come-a-long and pull them apart.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> One of the last nagging issues with my coach was a disconcerting rattle that came from the steering wheel. From the advice of Alex F. I was able to buy a new steering column bearing kit. I thought it would be pretty simple to swap out. But I can not get the sliding shaft attached to the cv joint to separate from the steering column. I believe the seal between the steering column splines and collar is broken but I can’t get the shaft to slide anymore. Any hints on getting this off? It is getting to be very frustrating.
>>
>> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Simple Steering issue turning into a headache [message #263816 is a reply to message #263815] |
Wed, 08 October 2014 21:28 |
Daniel DeLuca
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Or you could take the route I did a few years ago when I had a PTO shaft that would not slide. Tie one end to a big tree the other to the tractor and drive backwards. Both your solutions sound more elegant :-). For nowI have to focus on getting it off the coach.
Dan
On Oct 8, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> My way sounds a lot less involved - at least to me. A drill and a tap
> and a pipe plug. :-)
>
> I'm trying to figure out what I would bolt it down to that would hold
> solid while I pulled. If I had a big press I could make it work for that.
> Everyone has their tooling limitations. Could be the come-along idea
> works great for Daniel. We're all about options here!
>
> Oh boy, are we. :-)
>
> Kelvin
>
>
>
> On 10/8/2014 6:58 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>> Dan,
>>
>> Rather than drilling, drifting, and plugging the lower shaft, you may
>> want to make a simple jig to attach the upper and lower halves to a
>> come-a-long and pull them apart.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Daniel DeLuca wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> One of the last nagging issues with my coach was a disconcerting rattle that came from the steering wheel. From the advice of Alex F. I was able to buy a new steering column bearing kit. I thought it would be pretty simple to swap out. But I can not get the sliding shaft attached to the cv joint to separate from the steering column. I believe the seal between the steering column splines and collar is broken but I can’t get the shaft to slide anymore. Any hints on getting this off? It is getting to be very frustrating.
>>>
>>> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Simple Steering issue turning into a headache [message #263824 is a reply to message #263801] |
Thu, 09 October 2014 06:29 |
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Here's how I separated my shaft...slide a piece of iron pipe over the shaft, you will have to cut it just shorter than how much is stuck...drill a hole in a threaded cap to fit the threaded portion of the shaft and secure nut, as you unscrew the cap from the pipe it will pull the shaft out, you may need to add spacers as you go. This method is much safer than a come-a-long.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=48714
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
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