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lotsofspareparts is currently offline  lotsofspareparts   United States
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So my coach has the first generation Holley ProJection setup. The current return line is plumbed into the fill tube (common).

I have to drop my tanks anyways to repair defective fuel level sending units and replace the fuel lines.

My question is.... has anyone installed a selector valve with the accompanying fittings to allow the fuel to be returned to the tank that the fuel is being drawn from?

If I am going to drop the tanks anyways.......

Jared


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Re: [GMCnet] Fuel injection return line?? [message #262860 is a reply to message #262856] Fri, 26 September 2014 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Jared wrote:

> So my coach has the first generation Holley ProJection setup. The current
> return line is plumbed into the fill tube (common).
>
> I have to drop my tanks anyways to repair defective fuel level sending
> units and replace the fuel lines.
>
> My question is.... has anyone installed a selector valve with the
> accompanying fittings to allow the fuel to be returned to the tank that the
> fuel is
> being drawn from?
>
​hook the tank drains together , and it will not matter

ask jim bounds
erf​


>
> If I am going to drop the tanks anyways.......
>
> Jared
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>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fuel injection return line?? [message #262861 is a reply to message #262860] Fri, 26 September 2014 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Fri, 26 September 2014 16:49
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Jared wrote:

> So my coach has the first generation Holley ProJection setup. The current
> return line is plumbed into the fill tube (common).
>
> I have to drop my tanks anyways to repair defective fuel level sending
> units and replace the fuel lines.
>
> My question is.... has anyone installed a selector valve with the
> accompanying fittings to allow the fuel to be returned to the tank that the
> fuel is
> being drawn from?
>
​hook the tank drains together , and it will not matter

ask jim bounds
erf​


>
> If I am going to drop the tanks anyways.......
>
> Jared
> --
> Jared & Tina Lazaron + 7yr old Daughter.
>
> 77 Eleganza II "Recherché" Winterfeldt 455, Holley ProJection, Doug
> Thorley Headers, 3in exhaust, Switch Pitch, Alcoas, ONAN 6.5 Emerald
> series, CMC
> Restoration
>
> GO SEAHAWKS!!
>
> Arlington, WA 98223
> _______________________________________________
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Can the tank drains move the same volume of fuel as what is being pumped back into the tank?

And is having a small piece of hard line hanging under the tanks safe? Seems to me that vibration and movement could seriously affect a connection like that..... the tanks are just held up by straps are they not....?

Jared





Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter..... 77 Eleganza II "Recherché"..... 73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
Re: Fuel injection return line?? [message #262867 is a reply to message #262856] Fri, 26 September 2014 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since the tanks are connected I don't think it makes much difference. In my case I return to the aux tank.. I did this because the aux tank on both my GMC's were badly rusted and the main tanks were much better. I attributed this to lack of fuel flow in the aux tank. There is no reason to use a 6 port selector valve as the two tanks are interconnected. This is not the case with most two tank vehicles where the tanks are completely seperate.

Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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Re: Fuel injection return line?? [message #262871 is a reply to message #262856] Fri, 26 September 2014 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lotsofspareparts wrote on Fri, 26 September 2014 19:15
So my coach has the first generation Holley ProJection setup. The current return line is plumbed into the fill tube (common).

I have to drop my tanks anyways to repair defective fuel level sending units and replace the fuel lines.

My question is.... has anyone installed a selector valve with the accompanying fittings to allow the fuel to be returned to the tank that the fuel is being drawn from?

If I am going to drop the tanks anyways.......

Jared

Jared,

I have not done this mod, but if I were to, I would get the fuel tank selector that I believe came from a Ford dual tank pickup. Unfortunately, I have forgotten the exact application. It is one of the few 6-port valves available. I wish I could remember more and it may be in my notes, but they are a few days away and that makes it mid- October if I can find it at all.

I do not like the idea of connecting the tank drains for two reasons.
One is that both of my tanks show damage on the bottom. having the extra one inch plus to hit is just not a risk I like.
The other is that the mod eliminates any change of fuel inventory management. On this last excursion, we took on over forty-seven gallons of fuel on multiple occasions and in my history, I have twice taken on fifty-three plus gallons. This requires very careful management.

Matt


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Re: Fuel injection return line?? [message #262872 is a reply to message #262867] Fri, 26 September 2014 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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midlf wrote on Fri, 26 September 2014 22:08
Since the tanks are connected I don't think it makes much difference. In my case I return to the aux tank.. I did this because the aux tank on both my GMC's were badly rusted and the main tanks were much better. I attributed this to lack of fuel flow in the aux tank. There is no reason to use a 6 port selector valve as the two tanks are interconnected. This is not the case with most two tank vehicles where the tanks are completely seperate.

Steve,

While what you say is largely correct, but, when the tanks are below the half mark, they are two separate tanks.
your corroded tank problem is why we change to the auxiliary tank when the gages mark half.

This and the plan that if things go real bad, we still have fuel for some generator time.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Fuel injection return line?? [message #262873 is a reply to message #262856] Fri, 26 September 2014 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jared,
When I redid my fuel system last fall I added a selector valve that controls the fuel return to the tank that it come out of. I have a 3 tank system that has the 2 front tanks as the regular tanks and the rear tank as the Aux tank. My system is much more complex than the stock system. The 2 front tanks are tied together with a hose that run between the 2 drain plugs which have been replaced with Tee’s. All lines are either steel or SAE 30R14 barrier hose.

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Jared wrote:

> So my coach has the first generation Holley ProJection setup. The current return line is plumbed into the fill tube (common).
>
> I have to drop my tanks anyways to repair defective fuel level sending units and replace the fuel lines.
>
> My question is.... has anyone installed a selector valve with the accompanying fittings to allow the fuel to be returned to the tank that the fuel is
> being drawn from?
>
> If I am going to drop the tanks anyways.......
>
> Jared
> --
> Jared & Tina Lazaron + 7yr old Daughter.
>
> 77 Eleganza II "Recherché" Winterfeldt 455, Holley ProJection, Doug Thorley Headers, 3in exhaust, Switch Pitch, Alcoas, ONAN 6.5 Emerald series, CMC
> Restoration
>
> GO SEAHAWKS!!
>
> Arlington, WA 98223
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Fuel injection return line?? [message #262877 is a reply to message #262871] Fri, 26 September 2014 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Fri, 26 September 2014 21:28

Jared,

I have not done this mod, but if I were to, I would get the fuel tank selector that I believe came from a Ford dual tank pickup. Unfortunately, I have forgotten the exact application. It is one of the few 6-port valves available. I wish I could remember more and it may be in my notes, but they are a few days away and that makes it mid- October if I can find it at all.

Matt


My '93 F-250 has a 6 port fuel selector valve.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: Fuel injection return line?? [message #262879 is a reply to message #262871] Fri, 26 September 2014 22:00 Go to previous message
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Matt Colie wrote on Fri, 26 September 2014 19:28
lotsofspareparts wrote on Fri, 26 September 2014 19:15
So my coach has the first generation Holley ProJection setup. The current return line is plumbed into the fill tube (common).

I have to drop my tanks anyways to repair defective fuel level sending units and replace the fuel lines.

My question is.... has anyone installed a selector valve with the accompanying fittings to allow the fuel to be returned to the tank that the fuel is being drawn from?

If I am going to drop the tanks anyways.......

Jared

Jared,

I have not done this mod, but if I were to, I would get the fuel tank selector that I believe came from a Ford dual tank pickup. Unfortunately, I have forgotten the exact application. It is one of the few 6-port valves available. I wish I could remember more and it may be in my notes, but they are a few days away and that makes it mid- October if I can find it at all.

I do not like the idea of connecting the tank drains for two reasons.
One is that both of my tanks show damage on the bottom. having the extra one inch plus to hit is just not a risk I like.
The other is that the mod eliminates any change of fuel inventory management. On this last excursion, we took on over forty-seven gallons of fuel on multiple occasions and in my history, I have twice taken on fifty-three plus gallons. This requires very careful management.

Matt


Not looking for a 6 port valve, was thinking more towards a 3 port valve similar to what is already used in the GMCMH.

One 3 port valve that is controlled by the Main/Aux switch, and a separate 3 port valve to control the return fuel also controlled by the Main/Aux switch...... 2 separate 3 port valves.

Just an idea.....

Jared


Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter..... 77 Eleganza II "Recherché"..... 73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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