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[GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262441] Sun, 21 September 2014 00:19 Go to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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Didn't work on the way to Dalton Alb. Then worked great when the outside temp was up. Now checking things out for the rally next week. Fan comes on. Has LP. Any thoughts? Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262445 is a reply to message #262441] Sun, 21 September 2014 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BobDunahugh wrote on Sun, 21 September 2014 00:19
Didn't work on the way to Dalton Alb. Then worked great when the outside temp was up. Now checking things out for the rally next week. Fan comes on. Has LP. Any thoughts? Bob Dunahugh
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I don't have one but when this comes up it's usually suggested to check for voltage. They supposedly are sensitive to low voltage. Also check for a sticky sail switch or a slow fan. Both the sail switch and the fan may get stiffer with colder temps and not work as they should.


Steve Southworth
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Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262454 is a reply to message #262445] Sun, 21 September 2014 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
caspar dioge is currently offline  caspar dioge   United States
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There is one other thing to check ... Gas pressure, which should be 11 1/2 inches of water. Without proper gas pressure, ignition is that much more difficult.
Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262459 is a reply to message #262441] Sun, 21 September 2014 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

Here's a link to Bdub's site where he has the manuals for a number of Suburban furnaces:

http://www.bdub.net/manuals/index.html

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Rob M.
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AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428

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Didn't work on the way to Dalton Alb. Then worked great when the outside temp was up. Now checking things out for the rally next
week. Fan comes on. Has LP. Any thoughts? Bob Dunahugh

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
[GMCnet] Re: 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262474 is a reply to message #262441] Sun, 21 September 2014 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the furnace maybe in lockout.. on your thermostat is the on/off switch..turn it off then on.


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Didn't work on the way to Dalton Alb. Then worked great when the outside temp was up. Now checking things out for the rally next week. Fan comes on. Has LP. Any thoughts? Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262479 is a reply to message #262441] Sun, 21 September 2014 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My Suburban furnace did not work. It turned out to be a sticking gas valve. Someone here on the net had suggested that tapping gently on the valve may help. Gentle did not work but it came to life when I got more aggressive with it. After that I had intermittent issues but found that even tapping near the propane connection would open the valve. The more I used it the better it worked. It even got to the point where I could get it to light by kicking the base of the cabinet or even the floor near the cabinet and it would light.

That being said, voltage is very important. Always verify proper electrical connections and voltage. For the actual gas valve, replacement would be the best answer, although some say they could be lubricated with a graphite spray. Replacement would be labor intensive as the furnace would likely have to come out.

It might be worth tapping on the gas valve. JWID, your results may vary.


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Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262489 is a reply to message #262441] Sun, 21 September 2014 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As mentioned, I would look at the voltage. Mine did the same thing, worked fine, then would not light. Battery meter on the panel was in green, just above yellow. Plugged it in to shore power and it fired right up. This was also listed in the trouble shooting guide I downloaded and linked in a prior post on this thread. Very helpful information.

Perhaps there is some soot/rust in the burner. I took my furnace out, removed the burner, as read on a previous write up, I took a hacksaw blade to the burner slats. Cleaned them all up as they were all 90% plugged, Blew compressed air through everything,and probably removed a 1/4 cup of rusted bits,

Hardest part was putting it back in under the sink, Two person job to line up the vent properly, and then push it back in from under the sink.

1.5 hour job and it works very well now.

For what its worth, I also cleaned up the sensors which sit in the flame with some fine sandpaper,

I was able to find replacement gaskets for that small rectangular door and the larger burner access door on the front.

part 0071076, Got them from Marks RV in NY. 5 bucks plus the ride. Direct fit. for an NT 30M which I have in my Royale.
http://www.marksrv.com/

Put it all back together and it runs very well, Nice blue flame now all the way down the burner.




77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan

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Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262495 is a reply to message #262441] Sun, 21 September 2014 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When my buzz box died the first indication was the furnace wouldn't work. It would try to fire a few times and then would just sit and run the fan continuously. After I replaced the box it the furnace worked fine.

Does yours try to fire?


Jerrod Winter
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Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262501 is a reply to message #262479] Sun, 21 September 2014 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As far as sticking gas valves go I used to have that problem. The dang thing would work fine when I would check it then on a cold night it would stick shut wife didn't care much for frost on her nose or me saying it works now . I took it apart and found a sticky substance on the seat and flapper . I cleaned it with alcohol and sprinkled graphite on the parts. It hasn't had a problem in the past 8years. I would replace the valve or do as I did or it will likely stick again.

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] 78 Royale Suburban furnace not working AGAIN [message #262585 is a reply to message #262441] Mon, 22 September 2014 21:52 Go to previous message
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BobDunahugh wrote on Sat, 20 September 2014 23:19
Didn't work on the way to Dalton Alb. Then worked great when the outside temp was up. Now checking things out for the rally next week. Fan comes on. Has LP. Any thoughts? Bob Dunahugh
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Bob--do you hear a click a few seconds after the fan comes on?


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