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Sat, 06 September 2014 15:08  |
Michael Johnson
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Again this fall I can't seem to trap them fast enough, this has got to be a
common problem. Any advice about cleaning them out of the dash heater would
be appreciated. What are the main entry points for field mice? Help!
Michael Johnson
Boulder Colorado
76 Edgemont 146K all original and working great
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261089 is a reply to message #261083] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 16:01  |
Ken Henderson
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Michael,
I've never had mice problems, but I have worked on '76 HVAC a lot. The
only external entry point is the fresh air inlet at the top, passenger side
of the under-hood HVAC box. You really should do the recirculation mod
described here:
http://gmcws.org/Tech/air_conditioning/air_conditing.html
and here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4637-type-ii-dash-air-condition-modification.html
If you don't want to do that, at least put hardware cloth over that opening.
As a part of that mod, you'll remove the front cover of the HVAC box,
giving you access to most of the critter hiding places. But you still
won't see the area between the HVAC evaporator and the firewall. For SOME
acess to that, remove the resistor pack (with the wires going to it) on the
driver's side of the HVAC box, near the firewall. You'll probably be able
to vacuum some debris from there. For full access to that space, you'll
have to remove the evaporator, NOT a recommended procedure unless you want
to completely rework the HVAC.
There are a lot of openings into the HVAC from the interior -- best to not
let the critters get that far.
HTH,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Michael Johnson
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> Again this fall I can't seem to trap them fast enough, this has got to be
> a
> common problem. Any advice about cleaning them out of the dash heater
> would
> be appreciated. What are the main entry points for field mice? Help!
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261091 is a reply to message #261083] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 16:28 |
midlf
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Michael Johnson wrote on Sat, 06 September 2014 15:08Again this fall I can't seem to trap them fast enough, this has got to be a
common problem. Any advice about cleaning them out of the dash heater would
be appreciated. What are the main entry points for field mice? Help!
Michael Johnson
Boulder Colorado
Get them before they get in..
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-pictures/p22783-mouse-quot-feeders-qu.html
I spot these all around the barn where the GMC sleeps.. I also put out these same bait blocks arouind the inside of the barn.
For inside the GMC I use glue traps. The primary points of entry in my coach was through the holes in the floor for the plumbing. I plugged alll those with SS choreboy scrub pads. Only problem with this is the toilet has to be pulled and the floor flange removed to get at this one. The bath drain can ge a bear to get at in most floor plans. The kitchen one is easy.
The damn mice can get in through any small hole. I doubt there is any way to really stop them from getting in. I try to get em before they get to the GMC.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261099 is a reply to message #261091] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 17:52 |
sgltrac
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Buy a litter box an adopt a free cat. I don't much like cats but like em much more than mice.
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Steve Southworth wrote:
>
> Michael Johnson wrote on Sat, 06 September 2014 15:08
>> Again this fall I can't seem to trap them fast enough, this has got to be a
>> common problem. Any advice about cleaning them out of the dash heater would
>> be appreciated. What are the main entry points for field mice? Help!
>>
>> Michael Johnson
>> Boulder Colorado
>
>
> Get them before they get in..
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-pictures/p22783-mouse-quot-feeders-qu.html
>
> I spot these all around the barn where the GMC sleeps.. I also put out these same bait blocks arouind the inside of the barn.
>
> For inside the GMC I use glue traps. The primary points of entry in my coach was through the holes in the floor for the plumbing. I plugged alll
> those with SS choreboy scrub pads. Only problem with this is the toilet has to be pulled and the floor flange removed to get at this one. The bath
> drain can ge a bear to get at in most floor plans. The kitchen one is easy.
>
> The damn mice can get in through any small hole. I doubt there is any way to really stop them from getting in. I try to get em before they get to
> the GMC.
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261102 is a reply to message #261099] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 17:59 |
Michael Johnson
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That's a great idea, we have a few extra cats left from a cat breeding
business, you know, "sell the best and keep the rest".
On Sep 6, 2014 4:52 PM, "Todd Sullivan" wrote:
> Buy a litter box an adopt a free cat. I don't much like cats but like em
> much more than mice.
>
> Todd Sullivan
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
>
>> On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Steve Southworth
> wrote:
>>
>> Michael Johnson wrote on Sat, 06 September 2014 15:08
>>> Again this fall I can't seem to trap them fast enough, this has got to
> be a
>>> common problem. Any advice about cleaning them out of the dash heater
> would
>>> be appreciated. What are the main entry points for field mice? Help!
>>>
>>> Michael Johnson
>>> Boulder Colorado
>>
>>
>> Get them before they get in..
>>
>>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-pictures/p22783-mouse-quot-feeders-qu.html
>>
>> I spot these all around the barn where the GMC sleeps.. I also put out
> these same bait blocks arouind the inside of the barn.
>>
>> For inside the GMC I use glue traps. The primary points of entry in my
> coach was through the holes in the floor for the plumbing. I plugged alll
>> those with SS choreboy scrub pads. Only problem with this is the toilet
> has to be pulled and the floor flange removed to get at this one. The bath
>> drain can ge a bear to get at in most floor plans. The kitchen one is
> easy.
>>
>> The damn mice can get in through any small hole. I doubt there is any
> way to really stop them from getting in. I try to get em before they get
> to
>> the GMC.
>> --
>> Steve Southworth
>> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
>> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
>> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261103 is a reply to message #261083] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 18:07 |
Ray Erspamer
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Only place I've had problems is where the air lines exit the coach. I think I've got it sealed good this time. I also use bait blocks, they eat some of the block and then get thirsty and leave the coach
In search for water....some where outside they then croak.
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-------- Original message --------From: Michael Johnson Date:09/06/2014 5:59 PM (GMT-06:00) To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach!
That's a great idea, we have a few extra cats left from a cat breeding
business, you know, "sell the best and keep the rest".
On Sep 6, 2014 4:52 PM, "Todd Sullivan" wrote:
> Buy a litter box an adopt a free cat. I don't much like cats but like em
> much more than mice.
>
> Todd Sullivan
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
>
>> On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Steve Southworth
> wrote:
>>
>> Michael Johnson wrote on Sat, 06 September 2014 15:08
>>> Again this fall I can't seem to trap them fast enough, this has got to
> be a
>>> common problem. Any advice about cleaning them out of the dash heater
> would
>>> be appreciated. What are the main entry points for field mice? Help!
>>>
>>> Michael Johnson
>>> Boulder Colorado
>>
>>
>> Get them before they get in..
>>
>>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-pictures/p22783-mouse-quot-feeders-qu.html
>>
>> I spot these all around the barn where the GMC sleeps.. I also put out
> these same bait blocks arouind the inside of the barn.
>>
>> For inside the GMC I use glue traps. The primary points of entry in my
> coach was through the holes in the floor for the plumbing. I plugged alll
>> those with SS choreboy scrub pads. Only problem with this is the toilet
> has to be pulled and the floor flange removed to get at this one. The bath
>> drain can ge a bear to get at in most floor plans. The kitchen one is
> easy.
>>
>> The damn mice can get in through any small hole. I doubt there is any
> way to really stop them from getting in. I try to get em before they get
> to
>> the GMC.
>> --
>> Steve Southworth
>> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
>> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
>> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261109 is a reply to message #261099] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 20:09 |
midlf
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sgltrac wrote on Sat, 06 September 2014 17:52Buy a litter box an adopt a free cat. I don't much like cats but like em much more than mice.
Todd Sullivan
We don't have cats because of Chloe. However the neighbors cats visit often. I think the bait blocks make for slow mice.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261115 is a reply to message #261112] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 20:35 |
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Michael Johnson wrote on Sat, 06 September 2014 18:16That's one concern, will the mice eat
the poison, wander into a cat cage and poison a cat?
You have to buy poison that is not "Secondary Kill". That means it won't poison the critter that eats the poisoned critter.
Living next to large fields we get rodent problems from time to time, peanut butter and black cat snap traps are great for in the basement, but the best for outside is the bait bags from the local co-op, throw the bag in a rat hole, they drag it in and they all die.
That's what we do and it works.
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261119 is a reply to message #261112] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 20:56 |
midlf
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Michael Johnson wrote on Sat, 06 September 2014 20:16That's one concern, will the mice eat
the poison, wander into a cat cage and poison a cat?
I took a quick look at the LD50 numbers and took a guesstimate that it would not be possible for a cat to catch that many mice. Also keeping the bait feeders up reduces the number of mice available to the cats. Probably a better guide is that the same cats have been visiting for several years.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261136 is a reply to message #261083] |
Sat, 06 September 2014 22:43 |
jimtze
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Live in the country. If there is a negative it is the rodents seeking a dry place to stay. Last fall, I bought a product called Fresh Cab Rodent Repellent. No problem since. This product was initially meant to protect the electronics in farm equipment and can be found at most farm supply outlets.
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261198 is a reply to message #261166] |
Sun, 07 September 2014 14:04 |
powerjon
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Guys,
I use what they call a “Yooper Mouse Trap”. Got it from a guy in the UP of Michigan. As we live below the bridge we are trolls. I gave this to Jim K about 18 months ago because he was having a bad vermin issue in his new place of business. I use them in my out buildings here on the mini farm and I get 30 to 40 dead mice a season in each trap. Easy to build and they really work! The magic word is Peanut Butter!
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Sep 7, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
> We have lived in the country or a rural area for a long time.
>
> The thing I have found is that you have to be diligent in the fall. When it gets cold, they go looking for someplace that is warm. (Sounds like some
> people I know.) Even though we keep baited traps in critical locations all year, come the first frost, I check and re-bait all of them. The best
> bait I have found is raw peanuts.
>
> Forget about sealing them out. I have seen mice run at full gallop through a hole I could not get my pinky into. Out in the barn, I just be sure to
> have a day a week with the dog out there. I still find nests in my tool box and parts bins.
>
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261290 is a reply to message #261083] |
Mon, 08 September 2014 10:26 |
pyolet
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This is the last mouse trap you'll ever need. Catches packrats and chipmunks too. No poison. Use RV anti-freeze for winter ops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w
Woody.
1975 Avion 26' Transmode
TZE365V100846 Helena, Montana
EBL TBI, AL in man, in-tank pumps, AL rad, rear discs, Alcoas, Dakota Digital dash, all LED int and ext roof markers, Generac, Hubler torsion bars, Quadrabags, Manny tranny, 3.70, Zip Dee.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261294 is a reply to message #261290] |
Mon, 08 September 2014 10:32 |
Michael Johnson
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How many mice does it take to make a nice mouse stew?
On Sep 8, 2014 9:27 AM, "Woody" wrote:
> This is the last mouse trap you'll ever need. Catches packrats and
> chipmunks too. No poison. Use RV anti-freeze for winter ops.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w
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> Woody.
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> TZE365V100846 Helena, Montana
> EBL TBI, AL intake, in-tank pumps, alum rad, rear discs, Alcoas, Dakota
> Digital dash, all LED int and ext roof markers, Generac, Huber torsion bars.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mice invading the coach! [message #261301 is a reply to message #261299] |
Mon, 08 September 2014 12:42 |
midlf
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A Hamilto wrote on Mon, 08 September 2014 11:30pyolet wrote on Mon, 08 September 2014 10:26This is the last mouse trap you'll ever need. Catches packrats and chipmunks too. No poison. Use RV anti-freeze for winter ops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w
Woody. Seems like it would take longer for them to drown in the pink RV antifreeze than it would for the green stuff to kill them. Which one is more humane? Does anybody care?
A dog or cat would think the green stuff to be quite tastey though not healthy. In the winter mice die of hypothermia before they drown. This is a very effective trap. We used them a lot at work, unofficially of course.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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