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[GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 12:55 Go to next message
David Gardner is currently offline  David Gardner   United States
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Any suggestions, comments, experience with RV navigation systems out there? I see quite a few available, but you all have first hand experience with these. I don’t want an in dash unit as I do not have the space. what features are worth the price, and what are not? Also reliability is a big plus in my book.
Thanks All

David Gardner
West Hollywood Ca.
1976 23’ Birchaven side bath (just purchased last week!)
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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260517 is a reply to message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use a Tomtom,works great and easy to take out and use on other vehicles, going to upgrade to the europan version of the RV specific one next summer, here is a link to the US version : http://www.tomtom.com/en_us/products/your-drive/camper-caravan-navigation/

And yes it has a free lifetime upgrade on maps, that is a must ! if the unit does not have they will charge you an arm and a leg to upgrade it.


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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260518 is a reply to message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello David,

I purchased a Nokia Lumia 820 phone for the sole purpose of having a
navigational unit available for my trips in the US. The only thing that
it does not have, that some RV specific systems might have, is the
ability to limit routes by max gross weight or maximum incline or decline.

Apart from that, I am very happy with my choice, especially as the
Lumia's have all the map details onboard, so no need for an internet
connection at all. If you do have an internet connection, you get
updated maps free of charge regularly. At around 160USD you can't beat
that. If you want a bigger screen, get a Nokia Lumia 1320

JWID

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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260520 is a reply to message #260518] Sat, 30 August 2014 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have a Rand Mcnally RVND 7720. It uses Garmin Technology. Warns of low
clearance, steep downgrades, sharp turns, changes in speed limits,
construction zones. BUT, Ms Garmin is still in there somewhere. I
personally think that her last name might be hyphenated Garmin-Murphy. She
can lead you astray in a hot minute. Big screen, loud clear voice. Both
dash mount and suction cup mounts included. Can be downloaded by USB cord
to laptop.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Aug 30, 2014 11:08 AM, "Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC"
wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> I purchased a Nokia Lumia 820 phone for the sole purpose of having a
> navigational unit available for my trips in the US. The only thing that
> it does not have, that some RV specific systems might have, is the
> ability to limit routes by max gross weight or maximum incline or decline.
>
> Apart from that, I am very happy with my choice, especially as the
> Lumia's have all the map details onboard, so no need for an internet
> connection at all. If you do have an internet connection, you get
> updated maps free of charge regularly. At around 160USD you can't beat
> that. If you want a bigger screen, get a Nokia Lumia 1320
>
> JWID
>
> --
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> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
>
> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260522 is a reply to message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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David Gardner wrote on Sat, 30 August 2014 12:55
Any suggestions, comments, experience with RV navigation systems out there? I see quite a few available, but you all have first hand experience with these. I don't want an in dash unit as I do not have the space. what features are worth the price, and what are not? Also reliability is a big plus in my book.
Thanks All

David Gardner
West Hollywood Ca.
1976 23' Birchaven side bath (just purchased last week!)
I was satisfied with the classic spousal unit and paper-based GPS combination, but a couple of years ago she bought a newfangled electronic one.

You want/need two things: Lifetime map updates, and a screen large enough to read without having to take your eyes off the road too long to see it.

Other than that, opinions vary.
Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260525 is a reply to message #260522] Sat, 30 August 2014 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a Garmin RV 760LMT and Garmin BC20 wireless backup camera or sale in Swap Meet. I bought a new radio/DVD player with GPS, so no longer need. I was very pleased with it, but liked the idea of in-dash unit. It has some remarkable features, designed specifically for RV's, plus will pair with iPhone and even show current weather.

Even if not interested in mine, it is a unit worth checking out.

Dave


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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260528 is a reply to message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 8/30/2014 10:55 AM, David Gardner wrote:
> Any suggestions, comments, experience with RV navigation systems out there? I see quite a few available, but you all have first hand experience with these. I don’t want an in dash unit as I do not have the space. what features are worth the price, and what are not? Also reliability is a big plus in my book.
> Thanks All
>
> David Gardner


I'd suggest you snag David Jester's Garmin RV 760LMT. Picked one of
those up from a friend who works at Garmin and I've been very pleased
with how it works. Also installed the optional backup camera that came
with it.

Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR


David Jester writes:

> I have a Garmin RV 760LMT and Garmin BC20 wireless backup camera or sale in Swap Meet. I bought a new radio/DVD player with GPS, so no longer need. I
> was very pleased with it, but liked the idea of in-dash unit. It has some remarkable features, designed specifically for RV's, plus will pair with
> iPhone and even show current weather.

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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260529 is a reply to message #260525] Sat, 30 August 2014 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Big fan of the 7" display. RV models all seem to have Back-Up Cameras available, but the camera seems to be rather an expensive option. You can get one of the cheaper camera systems and feed it's video into the composite video input on the 7" monitor. I have the Magellan (from Camping World -was on sale at a fair price) but the Magellan camera was $150 or so. Santa was good that year. Magellans also have a sunshade available that really helps see the screen- sunlight is a weakness.
I have had TomTom's, Magellans, Garmins. All have their quirks.
Get lifetime map up-dates, this is important. Check the ability to add Points of Interest. Most data bases are somewhat useful, at least for gas stations and Wal-Mart.
Streets and Trips has been discontinued, however, I know of one person who uses an older tablet with Streets and Trips as his GPS. Actually works very well. I do not know how long Microsoft will do map updates for it.
IPads, Android and other tablets can do the task also, as long as the specs include a GPS inside. Mapping may be questionable.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260542 is a reply to message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also have the Garmin RV 760LMT. I bought it to make sure I would make it from Georgia back to Oregon quickly. I have not gotten the back up camera yet, but it works very well and even hooks to my cellphone with voice control.

The only thing I was disappointed on was the ability to import custom points of interest. They all come in as little blue squares. Hard to see and can't tell what they are. I did load the pure gas, McDonalds, and others. It took a bit to figure out how to find the custom points I was looking for, but worked out pretty well.

Like the size of the screen and the ability to set up a custom RV profile or two and then switch to a car as well.


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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260545 is a reply to message #260525] Sat, 30 August 2014 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I too have the Garmin RV 760 LMT. Great features as explained by others. Warns you
of traffic problems well in advance and offers alternates if they give you faster
times in route. Nice 7" screen. I think it is well worth the money. Big improvement
over the older GPSs I've had. Mine is mounted on the top of the dash w/optional bean bag shot
device.

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260547 is a reply to message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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David Gardner wrote on Sat, 30 August 2014 13:55
Any suggestions, comments, experience with RV navigation systems out there? I see quite a few available, but you all have first hand experience with these. I don't want an in dash unit as I do not have the space. what features are worth the price, and what are not? Also reliability is a big plus in my book.
Thanks All

David Gardner

David,

So, You did buy the Birchaven in Florida.... Glad to hear it.
You even have the sigfile right already.
Welcome to the group, family, cult. asylum.

I get asked about GPS a lot (in fact, I was doing the connection of one to a plotter yesterday). This may be because I have had the job description "Navigator" at times. I will tell you the most important part of all the things I have learned about electronic navigation over the years....

If you can't understand it, don't buy it. I happen to like Garmin a lot, but the included instructions are usually lacking. To this end. The thing is, their units are more stable and reliable than most others. So, if you can beg or borrow the unit you are looking at, do so. If you can't go on line and read the manual. If you can understand that, try to by the unit at Costco or other outlet that has liberal return policies. That way, you aren't stuck.

This larger screen of a 760 would be nice, but the honest fact is that you don't need an RV or Truck GPS. The only place a car can go that I can't is a parking garage. If you want to really plan any excursion, the little screen of any free-standing GPS is just too limiting.

Dave Jester has a nice package, but you best insure that Garmin will transfer the lifetime map updates. I believe that they will. You will have to call them, this is not in the FAQs, but the number is on their website. It is 866-957-1981. (I just checked, it is in my speed dial.)

Any GPS beats no GPS. But, we team drive, and most of the time I have the planning gone before departure. (As said, I am still a navigator.) but I do that on a big screen and then transfer the essential information for the days drive to the driver's GPS. This works very well, even the times I get to drive.

And yes, you are now a member of a community like few others. It so reminds me of the watermen that I have lived amongst that I elected when I came on board to welcome all new arrivals in a manner similar to that a new member would receive in that community. So,

May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within her.

Welcome David.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260548 is a reply to message #260547] Sat, 30 August 2014 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt,

The Garmin is fairly user friendly, and yes you do have to play with it to understand
it. ....but that is how I learned to use a computer (play with it). I wouldn't buy
any GPS and out of the box cold, try to use it to navigate cross country. I like the Garmin
'cause I can set the weight and other data and she will route me on truck routes and
out of places that a motorhome does not belong. She will also hunt out fuel stations
(even by brand). Driving thru Texas at night that is handy. Beats pushing the coach.
Oh, and did I ever mention that I am computer challenged? Rolling Eyes

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL

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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260549 is a reply to message #260515] Sat, 30 August 2014 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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David,

There is a GPS app called Sygic which has maps of damn near the whole world. Unlike most phone GPS apps it downloads the maps to
your phone so you need a phone that takes a big SD card.

It will run on iPhones, iPads, and Androids. I have it installed in my Samsung S-4 Active and I'm happy with the way it works.

I bought Helen a new iPad Air and inherited her iPad 1 to use in Double Trouble, however, Sygic needs an OS that the iPad 1 won't
run.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428

-----Original Message-----
From: David Gardner

Any suggestions, comments, experience with RV navigation systems out there? I see quite a few available, but you all have first hand
experience with these. I don't want an in dash unit as I do not have the space. what features are worth the price, and what are
not? Also reliability is a big plus in my book.
Thanks All

David

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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260551 is a reply to message #260549] Sun, 31 August 2014 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use Navigon (now owned by Garmin) on the iOS devices. It does some odd things once in a while, but I'm mostly happy with it. I've used Sygic on my Android devices - but never really liked it.

Also - when it comes to the iPads: you have to remember that only the cellular data versions (sometimes marked 3G, 4G etc...) have an actual GPS chip (or GLONASS in the later models). The WiFi only models rely on WiFi for location info and may not be accurate enough for navigation...

YMMV

Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath

On 2014-08-30, at 9:03 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> David,
>
> There is a GPS app called Sygic which has maps of damn near the whole world. Unlike most phone GPS apps it downloads the maps to
> your phone so you need a phone that takes a big SD card.
>
> It will run on iPhones, iPads, and Androids. I have it installed in my Samsung S-4 Active and I'm happy with the way it works.
>
> I bought Helen a new iPad Air and inherited her iPad 1 to use in Double Trouble, however, Sygic needs an OS that the iPad 1 won't
> run.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gardner
>
> Any suggestions, comments, experience with RV navigation systems out there? I see quite a few available, but you all have first hand
> experience with these. I don't want an in dash unit as I do not have the space. what features are worth the price, and what are
> not? Also reliability is a big plus in my book.
> Thanks All
>
> David
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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260552 is a reply to message #260551] Sun, 31 August 2014 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did just look at the Garmin, yes it has a 1" larger screen and you can get a back up camera for $ 100 but even without the camera it is almost twice the price of the Tomtom ($ 230 vs $ 400 + $ 100 for the camera)
And I really do not think that the Garmin can justyfie the price difference.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/cOnTheRoad-c518-p1.html


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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #260586 is a reply to message #260552] Sun, 31 August 2014 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i like a good map if i could just learn how to fold it back up

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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #267517 is a reply to message #260518] Sat, 13 December 2014 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Old thread but still interesting.

Nokia ported their Here maps application to Android. It is available as
a beta from the Google Play store for free. The big advantage of this is:

* Android tabs are dirt cheap (Samsung GalaxyTab2 works nice)
* You can store the maps on the device, i.e. navigation works if you do
not have internet access.

Maybe this information is of help for some.

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G'day,

Sygic stores the maps on your android or iPhone / iPad as well:

Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/p9jvvro

Full URL:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww .sygic.com%2F&ei=s
6OMVIqEN6S_mwX56IKACA&usg=AFQjCNG9lKH-Ocku6Ke7kOm32r1KTHkCnQ&sig2=N8rMTDoDsF22iRY-0ZTsGQ&bvm=bv.81828268,d.dGY

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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From: Peer Oliver Schmidt

Old thread but still interesting.

Nokia ported their Here maps application to Android. It is available as
a beta from the Google Play store for free. The big advantage of this is:

* Android tabs are dirt cheap (Samsung GalaxyTab2 works nice)
* You can store the maps on the device, i.e. navigation works if you do
not have internet access.

Maybe this information is of help for some.

Best regards
Peer Oliver Schmidt

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Re: [GMCnet] RV navigation systems [message #267520 is a reply to message #267518] Sat, 13 December 2014 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 13.12.2014 um 21:42 schrieb Robert Mueller:
> G'day,
>
> Sygic stores the maps on your android or iPhone / iPad as well:
>
>

No idea if it has any features that Here Maps doesn't have. It
definitely is different on the price tag ;)

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For free offline navigation, I recommend Nav Free. IMO - its user interface is far superior to Sygic:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.navfree.android.OSM.ALL&hl=en

But I think they still pale in comparison to Navigon (which also has issues).

Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath

On 2014-12-13, at 12:42 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Sygic stores the maps on your android or iPhone / iPad as well:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/p9jvvro
>
> Full URL:
>
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww .sygic.com%2F&ei=s
> 6OMVIqEN6S_mwX56IKACA&usg=AFQjCNG9lKH-Ocku6Ke7kOm32r1KTHkCnQ&sig2=N8rMTDoDsF22iRY-0ZTsGQ&bvm=bv.81828268,d.dGY
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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