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| Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259979] |
Sun, 24 August 2014 23:33  |
Luvn737s
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Our coach has only gone on one trip this year and with Cub Scouts (our major source of utilization) behind us and Boy Scouts (who have no time for a motorhome) ahead, its time to think about whether or not to sell the coach. I know I could likely not buy another in as good a condition for what I paid for this one. Retirement is scheduled for 15 years from now, but you know how those things can go, especially in the airline business.
Keeping it is relatively low cost, but fixing the things that will inevitably go wrong due to neglect and disuse will not be.
Has anyone here taken a hiatus from GMC ownership and come back later in life?
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259980 is a reply to message #259979] |
Sun, 24 August 2014 23:45  |
Olly Schmidt
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Randy,
> [..] Keeping it is relatively low cost, but fixing the things that
> will inevitably go wrong due to neglect and disuse will not be. [..]
being someone that just bought a GMC that hasn't seen real use for quite
a few years, I can tell you, that if you are going to keep it, go and
take it out for a spin each month for 30-60minutes, and let all the
stuff in it do its work, i.e. fridge, LPG stuff, A/C, generator. That
way, it won't have stuff die out of disuse.
--
Best regards
Peer Oliver Schmidt
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'76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259983 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 01:37 |
Guy Lopes
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Randy,
I am on my 4th GMC. So the answer is definitely yes.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:34 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now?
Our coach has only gone on one trip this year and with Cub Scouts (our major
source of utilization) behind us and Boy Scouts (who have no time for a
motorhome) ahead, its time to think about whether or not to sell the coach.
I know I could likely not buy another in as good a condition for what I paid
for this one. Retirement is scheduled for 15 years from now, but you know
how those things can go, especially in the airline business.
Keeping it is relatively low cost, but fixing the things that will
inevitably go wrong due to neglect and disuse will not be.
Has anyone here taken a hiatus from GMC ownership and come back later in
life?
--
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259991 is a reply to message #259983] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 06:37 |
Jim at the Co-op
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In my past life, my sons cane up the Scouting path, me ending up their
scoutmaster. I clearly remember telling my scouts, "If you can't carry
it-- you don't need it and anyone you see out here with a trailer or a
motorhome are worthless and weak"! I probably traumatized them all but now
look at me!!! When I woke up from the ability to hike well, I found that a
GMC is perfect for the scouting experience and don't let those Boy Scouts
fool you, they like as much comfort as you will let them have.
You could make your motorhome their "hot spot". We used to reject bringing
a radio, there were no cell phones back then but my guess is today heck it
seems like I have internal organs that need to be near my smart phone, they
probably allow them on the trail. I would but just keep their eyes off it
and engaged in other stuff.
I have my motorhome now in Florida camo, The "Animal House" sharks teeth on
the front in desert flat tan with bullet hole stickers. I look back and
figure if I had that thing as the troops command center back then it would
have become legendary! Hey, they don't care is the laminate is chipped----
carpet is stained hey, that's their job! If you were their lifeline to
power and communication out in the woods--- you are king! Put Weblos, Cub
and Boy Scout logos on the thing at least, put the troop number and motor
on the side. Heck, you could be legend----- "And he was the Woods
Warrior..."!
If you would like a pic of my rig, I'll post some pics this morning on my
daily pose.
Jim Bounds
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Guy Lopes wrote:
> Randy,
>
> I am on my 4th GMC. So the answer is definitely yes.
>
> Guy Lopes
> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
> Sacramento, CA
> W6TOL
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> www.GMC-Guy.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Randy
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:34 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now?
>
> Our coach has only gone on one trip this year and with Cub Scouts (our
> major
> source of utilization) behind us and Boy Scouts (who have no time for a
> motorhome) ahead, its time to think about whether or not to sell the coach.
> I know I could likely not buy another in as good a condition for what I
> paid
> for this one. Retirement is scheduled for 15 years from now, but you know
> how those things can go, especially in the airline business.
>
> Keeping it is relatively low cost, but fixing the things that will
> inevitably go wrong due to neglect and disuse will not be.
>
> Has anyone here taken a hiatus from GMC ownership and come back later in
> life?
> --
> Randy
> 1973 26' Painted Desert
> Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259992 is a reply to message #259991] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 06:58 |
tphipps
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Realizing that your retirement horizon is further done the road is no reason not to use the GMC.
Plan short trips, based on a reasonable driving distance, get away from the hassle and noise of modern life, refresh your spirit and your soul. There are nice State and National Parks within reasonable driving distance of the population centers of the United States.
Become the mobile command post for mini-marathons, long distance charity bike rides, etc.
I have a personal goal to use mine as a portable self-contained Amateur Radio Comm Center, in support of Hurricanes and other disasters. I have supported 5, so far.
Tom, KA4CSG
Keep it and use it.
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259993 is a reply to message #259983] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 07:15 |
Sammy Williams
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If you wish to keep it--
try this: drive it around monthly as some have suggested. If the GMC is
parked in your driveway, how about spending a night in it monthly, too.
fire it up Use it, showers sink all of it that you need to (seasonally) use
the A/C some, if in fall, use the heater some. even when in storage out
there run a small heater if its cold out (keeps the electrical system in
use). on a saturday ylur going nowhere go use the kitchen out there...
And my favorite: go on an unscheduled trip to a local lake or park (at
least quarterly) this should help a "stored" unit still see usage. before
too long retirement is here...
But the most reliable news I can give you is USE THAT GMC.
S. Wiliams
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Guy Lopes wrote:
> Randy,
>
> I am on my 4th GMC. So the answer is definitely yes.
>
> Guy Lopes
> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
> Sacramento, CA
> W6TOL
>
> www.GMC-Guy.com
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Randy
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:34 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now?
>
> Our coach has only gone on one trip this year and with Cub Scouts (our
> major
> source of utilization) behind us and Boy Scouts (who have no time for a
> motorhome) ahead, its time to think about whether or not to sell the coach.
> I know I could likely not buy another in as good a condition for what I
> paid
> for this one. Retirement is scheduled for 15 years from now, but you know
> how those things can go, especially in the airline business.
>
> Keeping it is relatively low cost, but fixing the things that will
> inevitably go wrong due to neglect and disuse will not be.
>
> Has anyone here taken a hiatus from GMC ownership and come back later in
> life?
> --
> Randy
> 1973 26' Painted Desert
> Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259994 is a reply to message #259993] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 07:30 |
Jim at the Co-op
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BTW, I am using my coach this weekend for a block party in downtown Orlando
called "Vetfest". Looking like some military something, it will be the
headquarters for the event organizers. Bob Snow and Joe Kittinger will be
hanging out in it. No, it's certainly not perfect but it will be a cool
spot at a hot event and a place to pee and sit down-- I will be very
popular this weekend and why--- because I hade the GMC available.
See these things are obout much more than traveling...
Jim Bounds
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Sammy Williams wrote:
> If you wish to keep it--
>
> try this: drive it around monthly as some have suggested. If the GMC is
> parked in your driveway, how about spending a night in it monthly, too.
> fire it up Use it, showers sink all of it that you need to (seasonally) use
> the A/C some, if in fall, use the heater some. even when in storage out
> there run a small heater if its cold out (keeps the electrical system in
> use). on a saturday ylur going nowhere go use the kitchen out there...
>
> And my favorite: go on an unscheduled trip to a local lake or park (at
> least quarterly) this should help a "stored" unit still see usage. before
> too long retirement is here...
>
> But the most reliable news I can give you is USE THAT GMC.
>
> S. Wiliams
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Guy Lopes wrote:
>
>> Randy,
>>
>> I am on my 4th GMC. So the answer is definitely yes.
>>
>> Guy Lopes
>> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
>> Sacramento, CA
>> W6TOL
>>
>> www.GMC-Guy.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Randy
>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:34 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now?
>>
>> Our coach has only gone on one trip this year and with Cub Scouts (our
>> major
>> source of utilization) behind us and Boy Scouts (who have no time for a
>> motorhome) ahead, its time to think about whether or not to sell the
> coach.
>> I know I could likely not buy another in as good a condition for what I
>> paid
>> for this one. Retirement is scheduled for 15 years from now, but you know
>> how those things can go, especially in the airline business.
>>
>> Keeping it is relatively low cost, but fixing the things that will
>> inevitably go wrong due to neglect and disuse will not be.
>>
>> Has anyone here taken a hiatus from GMC ownership and come back later in
>> life?
>> --
>> Randy
>> 1973 26' Painted Desert
>> Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259996 is a reply to message #259994] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 08:12 |
Neil Fonville
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I used mine a few weeks ago as the medical support vehicle during our high school band march-a-thon. This was there fundraiser march across town and I carried the school nurse. The temps were in the high 90s so we had both ACs running and lots of water on board. The GMC giving back. Our community has the largest marching band in the world with over 900 hundred kids at Friday night football games. It was lots of fun and we had lots of lookers at the end of the road.
Neil Fonville
Allen, TX
1975 GMC II by Explorer
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #259999 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 09:14 |
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on my way back home two weekends ago, I stopped at a gas station to add some rain ex to my windows.
there was two Chevy suburbans, one of witch was pulling an enclosed trailer with boy scout troop number on it, and there was a few kids around in their boy scout shirts. there was a subway attached to the gas station, and they were all grabbing sandwiches.
with a GMC, they could of just driven the GMC, pulled the trailer. left the second suburban home. and not needed to stop at subway.
I have been having more fun with my GMC, just using it on short trips and local. Have done two car shows, I bring the kids, get front row parking. Do not have to use the porta-potties, and have a fridge full of food, and drinks that do not cost an arm or leg. Both were right in town.
I am not even 40 yet. but I figure if I keep using and fixing my GMC slightly faster then it falls apart, when and If i ever retire 20+ years from now, It should be pretty mint.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260000 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 09:14 |
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Luvn737s wrote on Mon, 25 August 2014 00:33Our coach has only gone on one trip this year and with Cub Scouts (our major source of utilization) behind us and Boy Scouts (who have no time for a motorhome) ahead, its time to think about whether or not to sell the coach. I know I could likely not buy another in as good a condition for what I paid for this one. Retirement is scheduled for 15 years from now, but you know how those things can go, especially in the airline business.
Keeping it is relatively low cost, but fixing the things that will inevitably go wrong due to neglect and disuse will not be.
Has anyone here taken a hiatus from GMC ownership and come back later in life?
Randy,
I cannot help you directly with your question.
When some of my life fell apart, I tried to sell the coach and now I am fortunate that there were no buyers (several serious lookers though). But, I can pass along a lesson from the boat world.
That lesson is simple, if you are looking a 6 months of non-use, store it for a year...
In coach terms, this means, put new oil in the engines (yes - both), and fog them so the internals are protected from corrosion. The tires will age out no matter what you do - kind of like CP propeller seals, but you could help them by blocking clear of the ground (this is just so they stay round and the opinions are mixed, but it can't hurt). Learn, if you don't know already, how to blow the potable water system clear as this is faster and less expensive than an antifreeze fill and can be undone in a flash. (Just Add Water - Sorry, I just had to say that.)
Final note, do you maybe have other uses? When my coach didn't sell, it became my work mobile work place. It was a very convenient place to have a bench for electronic instrument repair, an office for collecting part costs and writing surveys and quotes, plus being my own dinner and motel. As clients had no practical means of bringing a 5 ton 30+ ft long sloop some 15 miles inland to my shop, I could bring a lot of my shop to them and have a great collection of tools and parts on hand. While it lasted, this worked very well. It was a very effective plan until the economy tanked and fuel prices doubled.
We now also use the coach for other things we never imagined. Music and art festivals are big ones. If you attend such and sometimes think it would be good to have someplace to stop or maybe get a snack/drink or use a non-public euphemism, there you go... We have several regular events that count on our coach to be there and would not attend without. We have also developed some friends that count on our coach.
None of use know what will be in fifteen years. You just make your best guess.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260002 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 09:25 |
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My kids are younger than yours, daughter 4.5 and twin boys 2.5, but we have already started using the GMC as a weekend command post in addition to vacations and camping. If we go to the community pool, we drive the GMC. That way we can stay for lunch without eating in a restaurant and even take the kids for a cool off or a nap (for the boys). We've done similar for day trips to the lake, sporting events, even family hikes. Sure it sucks up more gas than the minivan, but I easily make that up each time we bring lunch instead of eating out.
A GMC was designed to be a traveling vehicle with amenities. If you think of it that way as opposed to a camping vehicle, you'll probably find lots of reasons to use it instead of a car with your family. We come up with more all the time. I fully expect by the time my kids start playing sports the GMC will be very much in demand to haul kids, snacks, tents, and provide cool off breaks in between games.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260009 is a reply to message #259999] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 10:09 |
James Hupy
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Jon, Great, Fantastic comment. "If I just keep fixing my GMC at a faster
rate than it falls apart" Really says it all. I love it. You can bet that I
will be using that comment in the future.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Aug 25, 2014 7:34 AM, "Jon Roche" wrote:
> on my way back home two weekends ago, I stopped at a gas station to add
> some rain ex to my windows.
>
> there was two Chevy suburbans, one of witch was pulling an enclosed
> trailer with boy scout troop number on it, and there was a few kids around
> in
> their boy scout shirts. there was a subway attached to the gas station,
> and they were all grabbing sandwiches.
>
> with a GMC, they could of just driven the GMC, pulled the trailer. left
> the second suburban home. and not needed to stop at subway.
>
> I have been having more fun with my GMC, just using it on short trips and
> local. Have done two car shows, I bring the kids, get front row parking.
> Do not have to use the porta-potties, and have a fridge full of food, and
> drinks that do not cost an arm or leg. Both were right in town.
>
> I am not even 40 yet. but I figure if I keep using and fixing my GMC
> slightly faster then it falls apart, when and If i ever retire 20+ years
> from
> now, It should be pretty mint.
>
>
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260020 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 11:22 |
habbyguy
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It would be a shame to lose Randy as a GMC owner / advocate. He was the guy who spent hours with my wife and me, letting us crawl all over his coach (the first one we'd seen up close and personal), and even let me drive it around (wow). I've always considered him to be the guy who really hit the sweet spot in the cost/benefit curve of owning a GMC (got a nice, workable coach for chump change and has been using and enjoying it for years without getting anal about all the little details that we spend endless hours discussing here). Smart.
That said, I know if I was looking at a long stretch where I wouldn't be able to use the coach, but would have to pay to store and maintain it, I'd probably bail. But I'd do so knowing that I would almost certainly go back in the market when that dry spell ended, and look for another coach as a (very!) informed shopper.
The only other thought I have is something I considered, and that's storing a coach "up the hill" in the Flagstaff, AZ area. That's only a couple hours north of the Phoenix east valley, but 30 degrees cooler in the summer due to the 7,500 foot altitude. Having a coach stored up there would provide a very cost-effective option to beat the heat in the Arizona summer (always a good idea). OTOH, Flagstaff isn't the place you want to store a coach in the winter since it would freeze solid. But there are a whole lot of cheap / free camping options in the Flagstaff area that would give someone like Randy the chance to put that nice coach to good use without a whole lot of logistics or cost.
Just a thought...
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260021 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 11:28 |
lqqkatjon
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the other thought is to rent it out w/ black rock desert RV rentals?
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260043 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 14:47 |
Luvn737s
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The nest isn't empty yet and I still have a few places we want to go (Bryce Canyon and Morro Bay among others). But the transition to an empty nest will be a lot more difficult than to an empty parking spot.
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260051 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 16:25 |
Carl S.
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Randy,
If you can manage one three day weekend per month during the winter months, you might consider joining the Saguaro Jetset. Most members are older than you, heck most are older than I (58), but they generally make sure the rallies have plenty to do and are situated at RV parks with activities for kids. It would give you an excuse to get the coach out and use it every month during the rally season. Even if you can't manage a Friday off because of the kids being in school, there is always a Friday night through Sunday morning option.
Or, like others have said, just make it a point to take a trip every other month or so just to get away and refresh yourselves. I have a friend who takes his RV to a park across town every once in a while just to get a break from the usual household chores. On the other hand, if you're not going to use the motorhome, it would make sense to sell it now and get back in the market later when you can.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Should it stay or should it go now? [message #260061 is a reply to message #259979] |
Mon, 25 August 2014 18:38 |
lotsofspareparts
Messages: 726
Registered: May 2014
Location: Arlington, WA
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I'm 34, my wife is 29. We are new owners and are using our coach as much as possible, heck I drove it to Wal-Mart for groceries last Thursday and drove down to Lynnwood to see Dave (Otterwon) twice this last weekend because I could. At this point in time we have no intention of ever getting rid of it. We don't even own a home yet and have no intention of ever getting rid of it. Tell you what though, we are only looking at houses that have the room for RV storage.
I look at it this way, I got a great deal on my coach, will never find another one like this. They manufactured less than 13k throughout it's run and I tell you what there are more guys out there driving Tri 5 Chevys and early Corvettes than there are guys (and gals) driving these Coaches. I am amazed at the attention this thing gets, can't go anywhere without someone wanting to know about it and then going WOW, that's front wheel drive.
What you do is certainly up to you, if it were me I would use it when it is appropriate, make a little time every month or 2. You don't have to use it every weekend. Just really think about what you have. Once you get rid of it, maybe not right away, but eventually you may regret it.
My humble opinion.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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