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T.V.S. vacuum line conundrum [message #259131] Sun, 17 August 2014 14:31 Go to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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While trying to straighten up under the engine hatch, I discovered a loose vaccum line.

This is the line that connects to port "MT", the bottom of the three ports on the Thermal Vacuum Switch. According to the manual, it should connect to a tee fitting that branches off to the manifold elbows. Here is my problem, I don't seem to have any manifold elbows, and I can't find any open vacuum ports either. Should this port be capped or what? I can post pictures of the manifold if anyone needs to see one.

Bob


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Re: T.V.S. vacuum line conundrum [message #259132 is a reply to message #259131] Sun, 17 August 2014 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,
I think "MT" should go to a brass fitting in front of carb, manifold vacuum.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3323/323_p3342.jpg


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Re: T.V.S. vacuum line conundrum [message #259133 is a reply to message #259132] Sun, 17 August 2014 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Yeah, I am looking at that page in my manual as well. Unfortunately, there is no fitting like that on my manifold that I can find.

Bob




bwevers wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 15:41
Bob,
I think "MT" should go to a brass fitting in front of carb, manifold vacuum.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3323/323_p3342.jpg



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Re: T.V.S. vacuum line conundrum [message #259134 is a reply to message #259133] Sun, 17 August 2014 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just remove all the lines going to the TVS. I really doesn't do anything useful. Run the hose from the vacuum advance directly to the carb. Make sure the hoses are plugged or the ports they go to on the manifold and carb are capped. You don't need to cap the TVS ports. I removed mine completely about a year ago and installed a direct reading temperature gauge instead.

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Re: T.V.S. vacuum line conundrum [message #259135 is a reply to message #259131] Sun, 17 August 2014 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bwevers is currently offline  bwevers   United States
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The MT port opens when the engine overheats and advances the ignition timing to cool the engine.
In this photo you can see where the manifold vacuum port was originally, unless it has been removed:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5818/medium/DSC02210.JPG


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Re: [GMCnet] T.V.S. vacuum line conundrum [message #259143 is a reply to message #259135] Sun, 17 August 2014 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is your choice as to what you want to do, however having been in many
situation where the engine was heating up with A/C on in downtown St Louis,
the engine rpm came up enough and kept the temperature down.
I see so many coaches come in with vacuum lines disconnected or mis
connected.
Moat do not see the value of the Port Vacuum and where it is on the carb.
You'll hear me yelling at our guys about improper vacuum connection.
I have no patience with our guys as they know better and will chew them out
in front of a customer.

If you know more than the people at GM, then do it.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Bill Wevers wrote:

> The MT port opens when the engine overheats and advances the ignition
> timing to cool the engine.
> In this photo you can see where the manifold vacuum port was originally,
> unless it has been removed:
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Re: T.V.S. vacuum line conundrum [message #259161 is a reply to message #259131] Sun, 17 August 2014 18:55 Go to previous message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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I found the manifold connection. Not only was I looking in the wrong place, it was buried under other lines. Thanks for posting the manifold picture bwevers!

I added a T connector to the line going to the manifold port as shown in the manual so everything should be cool!

JimK, I agree with you, I am not knowledgable enough to begin changing things from the way they were designed.

Bob


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