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[GMCnet] tires [message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 19:36 Go to next message
Sergio Mora is currently offline  Sergio Mora
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What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming, put them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good place to get them...I am in San Diego County.

How much are they?-roundabout is good enough.


Thanks in advance

Sergio Mora
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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258420 is a reply to message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sergio Mora wrote on Sun, 10 August 2014 19:36
What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming, put them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good place to get them...I am in San Diego County.

How much are they?-roundabout is good enough.

Thanks in advance

Sergio Mora
If you have 16.5" rims, the only game in town is Firestone TransForce HT 8.75R16.5s, if you can find them.

If you have 16" rims, 225/75R16 Load Range E light truck tires. Poly sidewalls (AKA "ragwalls"), not steel sidewalls. Whatever brand you pick, someone will have a negative tale, someone else will have a positive tale. If you are one of those people that tries to avoid stuff bought from certain foreign countries, ask the tire dealer which ones come from where.
Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258421 is a reply to message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unless your going to put on several thousand miles a year, stick with
Firestone or BF Good rich.
Michelin and Goodyear are rather pricey and last longer tread wise, but
your going to replace them every 5 years since it sits around a lot .


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Sergio Mora
wrote:

> What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming,
> put them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good
> place to get them...I am in San Diego County.
>
> How much are they?-roundabout is good enough.
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sergio Mora
> National City Fire Department
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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258422 is a reply to message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sergio Mora wrote on Sun, 10 August 2014 20:36
What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming, put them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good place to get them...I am in San Diego County.

How much are they?-roundabout is good enough.

Thanks in advance

Sergio Mora

Sergio,

Have you changed wheels to 16"???
If no, there might be some imports or Firestone Transforce HT. About 400$ mounted and balanced.

If you are looking for 225-R75*16, LRE - read on......
Years back we had tire wars here that lasted for months.
Summary,
Except for the Michelin lovers, the best ride comes with a steel tread belt, and fabric side walls.
Several of the better choices are now out of production.
Some are running import tires that I could not get any price advantage on locally.

Take that along and see what you can find.

Matt



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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258423 is a reply to message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought a set of 16.5" Firestone Transforce from Oceanside Tire last October.

http://www.oceansidetireandservicecenter.com/

He was able to get them in a day or two and they ran just under $200 each including mount and balance.


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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258435 is a reply to message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, put them on the front, NOT the rear. Your traction wheels are the most
important ones.

Ken H.


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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258439 is a reply to message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What size rims do you have -- 16.5" or 16"?

Emery Stora

On Aug 10, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Sergio Mora wrote:

> What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming, put them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good place to get them...I am in San Diego County.
>
> How much are they?-roundabout is good enough.
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Sergio Mora
> National City Fire Department
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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258452 is a reply to message #258419] Sun, 10 August 2014 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What I put on mine:
http://www.treaddepot.com/tire/357468253.html

Made in USA!


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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258454 is a reply to message #258439] Sun, 10 August 2014 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought 7 BF Goodrich Commercial T/A all weather 225/75/16 LRE's thru
Amazon several weeks ago for under $166 each with free shipping. All were
built in week 15 or 17 of this year. I paid Les Schwab to mount them for
$8 each, I bought 4 oz of balancing beads for each wheel at $8 per wheel
and Schwab added them to the wheels when mounting the tires.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR currently sitting on the Oregon coast in 65
degree weather.



On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Emery Stora wrote:

> What size rims do you have -- 16.5" or 16"?
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Aug 10, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Sergio Mora wrote:
>
>> What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming,
> put them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good
> place to get them...I am in San Diego County.
>>
>> How much are they?-roundabout is good enough.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Sergio Mora
>> National City Fire Department
>> Battalion Chief- Operations
>> smora@nationalcityca.gov
>> 619 336-4555 office
>> 619 336-4566 sta.34
>> 619 250-1724 mobile
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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258474 is a reply to message #258454] Mon, 11 August 2014 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Wheeler wrote on Mon, 11 August 2014 00:22
I bought 7 BF Goodrich Commercial T/A all weather 225/75/16 LRE's thru
Amazon several weeks ago for under $166 each with free shipping. All were
built in week 15 or 17 of this year. I paid Les Schwab to mount them for
$8 each, I bought 4 oz of balancing beads for each wheel at $8 per wheel
and Schwab added them to the wheels when mounting the tires.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR currently sitting on the Oregon coast in 65
degree weather.

JR,
Those prices are real attractive. How did you find a local dealer willing to install them? We don't have Les Schwab around here.

The BF Goodrich Commercial T/A tires are a big improvement over the Michelin and Goodyear G159 all steel tires I've had in the past.


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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258476 is a reply to message #258474] Mon, 11 August 2014 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are the date codes on the "good" tires the same as the "bad" ones. Usually
folks buy in sets because more important than the tread (we don't wear out
tires, we rot them off) so date tells you when to replace-- if 2 are bad
there is a good chance the rest are really old! Don't play with tires, you
are driving a 26' (or 23) Corvette. The lower body material is the same.
Blow out a tire on a Vette and the body damage will never end! Because of
our body construction just know your tires are less than 5 years old AND
are in good shape.

PS, where you buy the tires are as important as what they are-- you want
options and a friendly tire store when you have any troubles. Buy from and
have the tires mounted and balanced (trued in my case) so any troubles are
their troubles! All that also effects how much it costs you to have good
tires on your coach.

Jim Bounds
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:14 AM, RJW wrote:

> Jerry Wheeler wrote on Mon, 11 August 2014 00:22
>> I bought 7 BF Goodrich Commercial T/A all weather 225/75/16 LRE's thru
>> Amazon several weeks ago for under $166 each with free shipping. All
> were
>> built in week 15 or 17 of this year. I paid Les Schwab to mount them for
>> $8 each, I bought 4 oz of balancing beads for each wheel at $8 per wheel
>> and Schwab added them to the wheels when mounting the tires.
>> JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR currently sitting on the Oregon coast in 65
>> degree weather.
>
> JR,
> Those prices are real attractive. How did you find a local dealer willing
> to install them? We don't have Les Schwab around here.
>
> The BF Goodrich Commercial T/A tires are a big improvement over the
> Michelin and Goodyear G159 all steel tires I've had in the past.
> --
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> SE Michigan
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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258478 is a reply to message #258476] Mon, 11 August 2014 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On tires: When I bought the Eleganza II it had 12 y/o 16.5 tires on
them. Replaced 6 of them (didn't do the spare), and it cost me including
installation and everything less than 1300USD. And I was very happy to
have new tires after driving on the interstate for maybe 30 minutes and
seeing the first car with a blown tire. That sight was not nice (at
100F) and I had to witness cars with blown tires over the course of the
2600mls more often than I would in Germany during a full year (or
three). I was *very* glad not to have tried the trip with old tires.

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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258491 is a reply to message #258478] Mon, 11 August 2014 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RJW,
I always try to do business with Schwab. I had went to them and asked for
a price for the BFG tire; it was $255 per tire their price plus $15
shipping. I checked with Amazon and they had them for $166 plus free
shipping. I went back to Schwab and they said they couldn't come close to
that price; I said why don't you buy from Amazon and they couldn't because
of their warranties, etc. The outfit I bought from (thru Amazon) said they
warranty their tires 5 years; of course, that doesn't mean balancing or
road hazards. I spoke with one of their warehouse managers and said I did
not want tires more than a half year old; they said they couldn't (and
wouldn't) go and check each tire for a date code; they have 80+ warehouses
nationwide and do big volumes in tires. I asked Amazon about receiving old
tires and they said to sent them back if they were too old. So I took a
chance for a difference of $110 per tire. On top of Schwab's price for
tires, I would have had to pay for mounting and balancing. They said they
would mount the tires for $8 per tires; they wanted $20 per tire for the
balancing beads; I said I would buy my own and they agreed to pour the
beads into the tires when mounting. I'm currently installing the 4 bag
system I won in a raffle years ago; haven't rode on the tires yet.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Peer Oliver Schmidt
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> On tires: When I bought the Eleganza II it had 12 y/o 16.5 tires on
> them. Replaced 6 of them (didn't do the spare), and it cost me including
> installation and everything less than 1300USD. And I was very happy to
> have new tires after driving on the interstate for maybe 30 minutes and
> seeing the first car with a blown tire. That sight was not nice (at
> 100F) and I had to witness cars with blown tires over the course of the
> 2600mls more often than I would in Germany during a full year (or
> three). I was *very* glad not to have tried the trip with old tires.
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258501 is a reply to message #258474] Mon, 11 August 2014 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Wheeler wrote on Mon, 11 August 2014 00:22
> I bought 7 BF Goodrich Commercial T/A all weather 225/75/16 LRE's thru
> Amazon several weeks ago for under $166 each with free shipping. All
> were built in week 15 or 17 of this year. I paid Les Schwab to mount
> them for
> $8 each, I bought 4 oz of balancing beads for each wheel at $8 per
> wheel and Schwab added them to the wheels when mounting the tires.
> JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR currently sitting on the Oregon coast in
> 65 degree weather.

... snip ...

The BF Goodrich Commercial T/A tires are a big improvement over the Michelin
and Goodyear G159 all steel tires I've had in the past.


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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258620 is a reply to message #258419] Tue, 12 August 2014 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you are running 16.5 in wheels, try PEP Boys

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What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming, put
them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good place to
get them...I am in San Diego County.

How much are they?-roundabout is good enough.


Thanks in advance

Sergio Mora
National City Fire Department
Battalion Chief- Operations
smora@nationalcityca.gov
619 336-4555 office
619 336-4566 sta.34
619 250-1724 mobile

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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258621 is a reply to message #258419] Tue, 12 August 2014 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 11.08.2014 um 02:36 schrieb Sergio Mora:
> What's the best tire for my 26' 78 Royale. I only need 2, I am assuming, put them in the rear most tire ?....also, anybody know where is a good place to get them...I am in San Diego County.
>

If you need 16.5" I just received 6 at El Cajon's Al Archard Tires. Took
them 1,5 days to get them. Very professional, very helpful. Say 'Hi' to
Ray, and tell him, the GMC did arrive in Virginia in one piece.

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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258641 is a reply to message #258435] Tue, 12 August 2014 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 10 August 2014 20:09
No, put them on the front, NOT the rear. Your traction wheels are the most
important ones.

Ken H.


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Ken, in this case you are right but for the wrong reason. On 4 wheel vehicles, new tires should always go on the rear for stability reasons. On 6 wheel vehicles (tandem or dually) new tires should always go on the front-again for stability reasons. FWD or RWD has no influence on the stabilty issue. After I wrote this article, the industry has changed its practices including Discount tire, AAA and even the NHTSA website:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3351/tire_positioning_12_15_2010.pdf
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3351/tire_positioning_12_15_2010.pdf



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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258652 is a reply to message #258641] Tue, 12 August 2014 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

How 'bout that -- never thought of it in those terms. Thanks for the
education.

​So both the rear-wheel drive Lexus and the front-wheel drive Honda should
have the best tires on the front. Though, as you suggest in the article,
it would be unusual for me to not replace all four at the same time. :-)​

Ken H.

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> Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 10 August 2014 20:09
>> No, put them on the front, NOT the rear. Your traction wheels are the
> most
>> important ones.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Sergio Mora
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> Ken, in this case you are right but for the wrong reason. On 4 wheel
> vehicles, new tires should always go on the rear for stability reasons.
> On 6
> wheel vehicles (tandem or dually) new tires should always go on the
> front-again for stability reasons. FWD or RWD has no influence on the
> stabilty
> issue. After I wrote this article, the industry has changed its practices
> including Discount tire, AAA and even the NHTSA website:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3351/tire_positioning_12_15_2010.pdf
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3351/tire_positioning_12_15_2010.pdf
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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258698 is a reply to message #258641] Wed, 13 August 2014 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The last time I was at the auto department of Wal-Mart, if only installing two tires, they would only put them on the front!

I wonder how many of the infamous Ford Explorer roll-overs were caused by blowouts of the rear tires that brought about uncontrollable oversteer.

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> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:00:50 -0600
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: NEXT2POOL@gmail.COM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] tires
>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 10 August 2014 20:09
>> No, put them on the front, NOT the rear. Your traction wheels are the most
>> important ones.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Sergio Mora
>> wrote:
>> ​... I am assuming, put them in the rear most tire ?....
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> Ken, in this case you are right but for the wrong reason. On 4 wheel vehicles, new tires should always go on the rear for stability reasons. On 6
> wheel vehicles (tandem or dually) new tires should always go on the front-again for stability reasons. FWD or RWD has no influence on the stabilty
> issue. After I wrote this article, the industry has changed its practices including Discount tire, AAA and even the NHTSA website:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3351/tire_positioning_12_15_2010.pdf
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3351/tire_positioning_12_15_2010.pdf
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>
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] tires [message #258703 is a reply to message #258698] Wed, 13 August 2014 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
hal kading is currently offline  hal kading   United States
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Ken,

Did you miss type? Bob said best tires should go on the REAR of four wheel vehicles and the FRONT of six wheel vehicles.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Las Cruces NM
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