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aircon fill [message #257941] Wed, 06 August 2014 04:27 Go to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Netherlands
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going to get the aircon refilled in 2 hours Cant find the amount to fil Can anybody help here?

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Re: aircon fill [message #257942 is a reply to message #257941] Wed, 06 August 2014 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I checked Mr Fisher's site and it indicated 3.5 lbs for a 1976.

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Re: aircon fill [message #257944 is a reply to message #257942] Wed, 06 August 2014 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What kind of refrigerant are you going to put in it?

If it is completely empty now, be sure to have it vacuumed and make sure it will hold a deep vacuum for a hour or so. If it does not hold a vacuum, you have a leak and need to find it first before recharging. Otherwise the refrigerant will just leak out again. Depending on the type of refrigerant used it can be very expensive.


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Re: aircon fill [message #257945 is a reply to message #257944] Wed, 06 August 2014 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Netherlands
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R134 was in it before we let it out while changing the engine

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Re: aircon fill [message #257946 is a reply to message #257942] Wed, 06 August 2014 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3,5 pound ? thats a lot

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark
Re: [GMCnet] aircon fill [message #257948 is a reply to message #257946] Wed, 06 August 2014 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Appie,

See Maintenance Manual X-7525 / Section 1 - Air Conditioning System / Page 1-57 Evacuating and Charging Procedures / Air
Conditioning Capacity

Quote:

The vehicle automotive air conditioning system has a refrigeration capacity of 3.5 lbs.

Unquote

HOWEVER, that's 3.5 pounds of R-12 so your mechanic is going to have to convert that to the correct amount for R-134A.

If you could find a propane based refrigerant such as Dura Cool or Frosty Cool you would use 2 - 3 six ounce cans.

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3,5 pound ? thats a lot
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Re: aircon fill [message #257949 is a reply to message #257946] Wed, 06 August 2014 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Apple, Instead of using R134A (IS that common in Europe?) Try using one of the standard European blends. I understand that they are blends, same as our use of the Duracool brand coolant. Read Emery's past comments along this line. The blends do a much better job of cooling the passenger area of the coach than either R12 or R134a. Most GMC owners that have made the switch will not go back. Everything to gian, nothing to lose.
Tom, MS II


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Re: aircon fill [message #257960 is a reply to message #257945] Wed, 06 August 2014 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, then a vacuum check for leaks and moisture removal is all you need. I was afraid you had a coach that had R-12 in it and that it had leaked out.

I do not know the quantity of R-134 required for a GMC and any spec from a GMC manual is going to be for R-12. I suggest that you charge it by pressure rather than doing it by weight.


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Re: aircon fill [message #257972 is a reply to message #257960] Wed, 06 August 2014 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was a bit stressed this morning I looked through the whole manual but skipped the first lines where the amount is stated
R134a is what is used in europe
We filled 3,5 pound never thought that it could be different for R134a ?
The PO did the whole aircon with a new compressor and changed to R134a adding the right ISO connector allowing it to be filled with local equipement The odl stuff was let out when we changed the engine that s why

Now the cab is cold


Thank you all


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Re: [GMCnet] aircon fill [message #258007 is a reply to message #257972] Wed, 06 August 2014 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Appie,

What were the hi and low side pressures when you were done filling the system with 3.5 lb of 134A?

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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428

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From: lenze middelberg

I was a bit stressed this morning I looked through the whole manual but skipped the first lines where the amount is stated
R134a is what is used in europe
We filled 3,5 pound never thought that it could be different for R134a ?
The PO did the whole aircon with a new compressor and changed to R134a adding the right ISO connector allowing it to be filled with
local equipement
The odl stuff was let out when we changed the engine that s why

Now the cab is cold

Thank you all
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Re: [GMCnet] aircon fill [message #258053 is a reply to message #258007] Thu, 07 August 2014 12:03 Go to previous message
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Sorry no pressure numbers They just filled 3,5 pound and nothing to fit the lowpressure

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark

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