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Wed, 30 July 2014 13:00  |
Olly Schmidt
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Seeing all this work being done to untangle especially the dash, I was
wondering, if anyone ever thought about using something like the Fusion
Brain http://store.mp3car.com/Fusion_Brain_Version_6_p/com-133.htm to
channel all information available into a common format and have some ODB
type display use that information, instead of real gauges and lights.
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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257214 is a reply to message #257199] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 17:11  |
thorndike
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Peer,
I've been considering this as well. Not sure how to go about it yet, but have asked some really smart folks. Will let you know what I learn.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257224 is a reply to message #257214] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 18:25 |
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Slowly working up to this, using Ardunio to monitor temps and pressures. Need translation schedule for OEM analog sensors to convert to digital. Probably have to build one. Raspberry Pi is also interesting for this. There is also the Parallax Propeller (8 CPUs). Just need to get to it. A very good Winter project. Adrunio uses a nice LCD screen, Raspberry Pi needs a HDMI monitor for best display. Raspberry Pi can also use an LCD, but HDMI would be very cool.
Working of SDR right now.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257228 is a reply to message #257224] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 18:29 |
Olly Schmidt
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Thomas,
> Slowly working up to this, using Ardunio to monitor temps and
> pressures. Need translation schedule for OEM analog sensors to
> convert to digital. Probably have to build one. Raspberry Pi is also
> interesting for this. There is also the Parallax Propeller (8 CPUs).
> Just need to get to it. A very good Winter project. Adrunio uses a
> nice LCD screen, Raspberry Pi needs a HDMI monitor for best display.
> Raspberry Pi can also use an LCD, but HDMI would be very cool.
>
That's why I think OBD II output would be so helpful, as lots of
smartphone apps already exist that can be used for display purposes.
Of course, displaying the state on some small HDMI connected monitor
ain't bad either, and I am sure one could add a 7" USB monitor to a rpi
as well.
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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257230 is a reply to message #257199] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 19:25 |
Chr$
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Yes, was gonna just have an LCD sticking out of the dash, and the dash flat all the way across, with some switchgear on the side by the leveling, but then I woke up and smelled the coffee...If I was retired, well, then, I'd have a whole product line.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257231 is a reply to message #257224] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 19:29 |
Chr$
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tphipps wrote on Wed, 30 July 2014 16:25Slowly working up to this, using Ardunio to monitor temps and pressures. Need translation schedule for OEM analog sensors to convert to digital. Probably have to build one. Raspberry Pi is also interesting for this. There is also the Parallax Propeller (8 CPUs). Just need to get to it. A very good Winter project. Adrunio uses a nice LCD screen, Raspberry Pi needs a HDMI monitor for best display. Raspberry Pi can also use an LCD, but HDMI would be very cool.
Working of SDR right now.
Tom, MS II
For the Arduino, You're gonna have to use the PWM I/O's and filter the freqs down so you can use them as Analog I/O. The use the 90 Ohm sensors in a voltage divider.Just did something similar for something else...
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257234 is a reply to message #257231] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 19:50 |
midlf
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Geez you guys are way out of my league. I'm just trying to find a PWM I can use to dim the dash lights. All the units or schematics I find do the control on the negative lead. Heck when I stopped being in the electronics business we thought two transistors in one package was high tech. Op amps were potted and the size of 4 or 6 ice cubes.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257243 is a reply to message #257228] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 20:38 |
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Matt Colie
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Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote on Wed, 30 July 2014 19:29That's why I think OBD II output would be so helpful, as lots of
smartphone apps already exist that can be used for display purposes.
Of course, displaying the state on some small HDMI connected monitor ain't bad either, and I am sure one could add a 7" USB monitor to a rpi
as well.
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Peer Oliver Schmidt
Peer,
As much as I happen to like OBDII, it resides in the ECU. So, it you upgrade to a 7747 with EBL, you can have OBDII. But, then you won't need it because now you can access it with a laptop just like we did in the labs and read both the trouble codes and the system variables real time.
When I have a spare couple of GMC bucks....
But this year is two new 225-75*16 on reconditioned wheels.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257245 is a reply to message #257243] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 20:57 |
Olly Schmidt
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Matt,
I am aware that OBD II is usually output by the ECU. My thoughts with
regards to OBD II (I always want to write ODB no idea why), is, to have
the ability to show each and every information that we already have with
a gazillion analog gauges and lighted plastic on a single display, with
the ability to highlight the information that is outside of specific
parameters while at the same time limiting the amount of cabling behind
the dash. I've probably had too much of java at Starbuck's today,
coupled with lots of UV on my head.
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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257255 is a reply to message #257199] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 22:38 |
Guy Lopes
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Peer,
I've been working on a similar GMC specific project for the past couple of
years. Off and on. Now I have incorporated a Raspberry Pi model B+ into the
mix, plus several Arduinos. This GMC project really intrigues me!
Some people will ask: why? I say: why not? This IS an enjoyable hobby
(hobbies) after all.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:00 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Lots of cables
Seeing all this work being done to untangle especially the dash, I was
wondering, if anyone ever thought about using something like the Fusion
Brain http://store.mp3car.com/Fusion_Brain_Version_6_p/com-133.htm to
channel all information available into a common format and have some ODB
type display use that information, instead of real gauges and lights.
--
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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257259 is a reply to message #257199] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 23:18 |
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USAussie
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Peer,
I have no idea as to your auto mechanic skill level but I can tell you this it's simple, most of the old fart gear heads here grew
up in the 1960's when having a tach, oil pressure gage, amp gage, water temp gage; any more that we could afford was COOL!
Chuck Garton is the head of our clan; he has a gage for virtually everything you could possibly think of on his GMC and then some!!
OBD stood for Our Brain Diagnostics; we learned how to trouble shoot / tune an engine using a tach / dwell meter, timing light, a
compression gage, a vacuum gage, a VOM, and a few other tools. One of the most effective was a long screwdriver that we could touch
to the engine in various places and listen to what we heard.
I have prediction, you will be so busy getting your new GMC into a state that SWMBO approves it will be a LONG time before you get
to customizing a dash board! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
-----Original Message-----
From: Peer Oliver Schmidt
Seeing all this work being done to untangle especially the dash, I was wondering, if anyone ever thought about using something like
the Fusion Brain http://store.mp3car.com/Fusion_Brain_Version_6_p/com-133.htm to channel all information available into a common
format and have some ODB type display use that information, instead of real gauges and lights.
Best regards
Peer
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257282 is a reply to message #257259] |
Thu, 31 July 2014 09:17 |
Olly Schmidt
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Rob,
> [..]
> I have prediction, you will be so busy getting your new GMC into a state that SWMBO approves it will be a LONG time before you get
> to customizing a dash board! ;-)
OH, YES. I have high hopes to outsource most of the work into
knowledgeable hands.
Re dash/OBD: I guess it was merely a fleeting thought, but one I've
looked for on and off for quite some time (not only with regards to the
GMC). I always like the idea of utilizing standard protocols to provide
information, so another standard client can read, display and maybe even
do IFTTT type of action. It is another reason why I prefer SMTP/IMAP
over http/HTML ;)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257287 is a reply to message #257282] |
Thu, 31 July 2014 09:40 |
tphipps
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In the photo of RayE's development, where did the very neat Radio/Heater control pod come from? Definite like to move stuff into that wasted space. Of course, GPS display would be nice there.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257292 is a reply to message #257287] |
Thu, 31 July 2014 10:29 |
midlf
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tphipps wrote on Thu, 31 July 2014 09:40In the photo of RayE's development, where did the very neat Radio/Heater control pod come from? Definite like to move stuff into that wasted space. Of course, GPS display would be nice there.
Tom, MS II
Ray is up north being a volunteer park host on Lake Superior. Boonies territory. No modern conveniences of any kind. Including internet and sometimes cell phone. He'll be back in about a week or so, unless they ask him to extend his stay, again.
His pod is made out of wood but you would never know it by looking at it. His knowledge and craftsmanship are impeccable.
see this for pod pictures:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6454-rays-new-radio-speakers-amp-relocation-of-heater-controls.html
He just did a corian rework of the kitchen counters in the GMC that is just incredible but no photos of that.
His photo archive is here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u460-rserspamer.html
Take a look at the interior remodel album. It is impressive. More so "in the flesh".
I figger I gotta stay on his good side so I can have a knowledgable consultant available when I do my interior.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257398 is a reply to message #257282] |
Thu, 31 July 2014 23:33 |
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USAussie
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Peer,
I would suggest that you DO stop at Chuck Boyd's on the way to Virginia; he and I can look over your coach and provide you with an
HONEST prioritized evaluation of what you COULD CONSIDER doing.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
-----Original Message-----
From: Peer Oliver Schmidt
OH, YES. I have high hopes to outsource most of the work into knowledgeable hands.
Re dash/OBD: I guess it was merely a fleeting thought, but one I've looked for on and off for quite some time (not only with regards
to the GMC). I always like the idea of utilizing standard protocols to provide information, so another standard client can read,
display and maybe even do IFTTT type of action. It is another reason why I prefer SMTP/IMAP over http/HTML ;)
Best regards
Peer
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Lots of cables [message #257704 is a reply to message #257398] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 21:48 |
Olly Schmidt
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Rob,
> I would suggest that you DO stop at Chuck Boyd's on the way to Virginia; he and I can look over your coach and provide you with an
> HONEST prioritized evaluation of what you COULD CONSIDER doing.
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Thank you for the offer, it would have been a very nice thing to have.
Unfortunately, too late. As I texted you already, Chuck seems to have
been unavailable, and I did not hear back from him. I'll try the guy up
in northern Virginia.
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