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Brisk air duo-therm [message #256266] Wed, 23 July 2014 14:58 Go to next message
JJUNKSELL is currently offline  JJUNKSELL   United States
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I just tested my air conditioner out. Im using a 2500 watt generator, just the fan ran for a while. Then the compresser kicked in it started to cool but the gen was really struggaling.The compresser kicked off, Im wondering if the 2500 watt gen has enough wattage, amperage to run the air conditioner?does anyone know how much wattage , amperage a brisk air duo therm uses? Will my 4k onan be able to run it, if I get it to generate?Thanks, Dave

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Re: Brisk air duo-therm [message #256273 is a reply to message #256266] Wed, 23 July 2014 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would guess your onan would do fine. you are right at the breaking point for that A/C unit with the 2500 watt generator. 2500 watt's might not be enough. I have run my original A/C with a 3000 watt honda.



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Re: [GMCnet] Brisk air duo-therm [message #256276 is a reply to message #256266] Wed, 23 July 2014 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 7/23/2014 12:59 PM, DAVE KELLEY wrote:
> Will my 4k onan be able to run it, if I get it to generate?Thanks, Dave

Mine does. The Dometic likely uses a lot less juice than the original
AC. 2500W probably isn't enough, though...

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Re: [GMCnet] Brisk air duo-therm [message #256291 is a reply to message #256266] Wed, 23 July 2014 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave,

You did not mention what model Brisk Air Duo-Therm model you have but here's a link to the brochure that provides the spec's and
power requirements:

https://www.dometic.com/10436664-32fa-4b25-8067-c8a5538a1dcc.fodoc

See the blue highlighted line for the various models covered and pick yours.

Regards,
Rob M.
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AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428

-----Original Message-----
From: DAVE KELLEY

I just tested my air conditioner out. Im using a 2500 watt generator, just the fan ran for a while. Then the compresser kicked in it
started to cool but the gen was really struggaling.The compresser kicked off, Im wondering if the 2500 watt gen has enough wattage,
amperage to run the air conditioner?does anyone know how much wattage , amperage a brisk air duo therm uses? Will my 4k onan be able
to run it, if I get it to generate?Thanks, Dave
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Re: Brisk air duo-therm [message #256292 is a reply to message #256266] Wed, 23 July 2014 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Generally you wouldn't want to run a 13,500 BTU AC unit with less than 3kw. 3.5kw would run it OK but it would be better for the gen set if it was 4kw or more.

Jared


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Re: Brisk air duo-therm [message #256303 is a reply to message #256292] Wed, 23 July 2014 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lotsofspareparts wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:24
Generally you wouldn't want to run a 13,500 BTU AC unit with less than 3kw. 3.5kw would run it OK but it would be better for the gen set if it was 4kw or more.

Jared

The other aspect is whether it is an inverter generator. They have no tolerance for high startup loads and will kick off immediately while a conventional generator will labor a while untill the AC is totally stabilized.


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Re: Brisk air duo-therm [message #256398 is a reply to message #256266] Thu, 24 July 2014 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the replys everyone. I found that the min gen to use is a 3500 watt. Dave

Dave, 76 PB moneypit.Center of CT.
Re: Brisk air duo-therm [message #256407 is a reply to message #256303] Thu, 24 July 2014 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:53
lotsofspareparts wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:24
Generally you wouldn't want to run a 13,500 BTU AC unit with less than 3kw. 3.5kw would run it OK but it would be better for the gen set if it was 4kw or more.

Jared

The other aspect is whether it is an inverter generator. They have no tolerance for high startup loads and will kick off immediately while a conventional generator will labor a while untill the AC is totally stabilized.


Have to differ with you a little there Bob, although what you said may be true, it may be true based on the model of inverter generator.

My Honda EU3000i would run the 13,500 in our travel trailer quite well, never had any issues with it but got tired of lugging it around. Sold it and bought a new EU2000i which is a great generator, we just can't use the Air Con anymore.

Jared


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Re: [GMCnet] Brisk air duo-therm [message #256409 is a reply to message #256407] Thu, 24 July 2014 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree with Bob, a conventional generator will definitely carry an
overload better than an inverter, regardless of model. A conventional
generator will continue to operate even when it's incapable of producing
anywhere near its rated voltage if the motor can keep turning it. Not good
for it or the load, but that's just the physical characteristics of the
things.

Ken H.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Jared wrote:

> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:53
>> lotsofspareparts wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:24
>>> Generally you wouldn't want to run a 13,500 BTU AC unit with less
> than 3kw. 3.5kw would run it OK but it would be better for the gen set if
> it
>>> was 4kw or more.
>>>
>>> Jared
>>
>> The other aspect is whether it is an inverter generator. They have no
> tolerance for high startup loads and will kick off immediately while a
>> conventional generator will labor a while untill the AC is totally
> stabilized.
>
>
> Have to differ with you a little there Bob, although what you said may be
> true, it may be true based on the model of inverter generator.
>
> My Honda EU3000i would run the 13,500 in our travel trailer quite well,
> never had any issues with it but got tired of lugging it around. Sold it and
> bought a new EU2000i which is a great generator, we just can't use the
> Air Con anymore.
>
> Jared
>
> --
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>
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> Thorley Headers, 3in exhaust, Switch Pitch, Alcoas, ONAN 6.5 Emerald
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Re: [GMCnet] Brisk air duo-therm [message #256412 is a reply to message #256409] Thu, 24 July 2014 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 24 July 2014 15:35
I agree with Bob, a conventional generator will definitely carry an
overload better than an inverter, regardless of model. A conventional
generator will continue to operate even when it's incapable of producing
anywhere near its rated voltage if the motor can keep turning it. Not good
for it or the load, but that's just the physical characteristics of the
things.

Ken H.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Jared wrote:

> Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:53
>> lotsofspareparts wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:24
>>> Generally you wouldn't want to run a 13,500 BTU AC unit with less
> than 3kw. 3.5kw would run it OK but it would be better for the gen set if
> it
>>> was 4kw or more.
>>>
>>> Jared
>>
>> The other aspect is whether it is an inverter generator. They have no
> tolerance for high startup loads and will kick off immediately while a
>> conventional generator will labor a while untill the AC is totally
> stabilized.
>
>
> Have to differ with you a little there Bob, although what you said may be
> true, it may be true based on the model of inverter generator.
>
> My Honda EU3000i would run the 13,500 in our travel trailer quite well,
> never had any issues with it but got tired of lugging it around. Sold it and
> bought a new EU2000i which is a great generator, we just can't use the
> Air Con anymore.
>
> Jared
>
> --
> Jared & Tina Lazaron + 7yr old Daughter.
>
> 77 Eleganza II "Recherché" Winterfeldt 455, Holley ProJection, Doug
> Thorley Headers, 3in exhaust, Switch Pitch, Alcoas, ONAN 6.5 Emerald
> series, CMC
> Restoration
>
> GO SEAHAWKS!!
>
> Arlington, WA 98223
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Not saying I disagree was just offering my own experience with my own generator.....

Jared


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Re: Brisk air duo-therm [message #256415 is a reply to message #256407] Thu, 24 July 2014 18:59 Go to previous message
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lotsofspareparts wrote on Thu, 24 July 2014 16:27
Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:53
lotsofspareparts wrote on Wed, 23 July 2014 17:24
Generally you wouldn't want to run a 13,500 BTU AC unit with less than 3kw. 3.5kw would run it OK but it would be better for the gen set if it was 4kw or more.

Jared

The other aspect is whether it is an inverter generator. They have no tolerance for high startup loads and will kick off immediately while a conventional generator will labor a while untill the AC is totally stabilized.


Have to differ with you a little there Bob, although what you said may be true, it may be true based on the model of inverter generator.

My Honda EU3000i would run the 13,500 in our travel trailer quite well, never had any issues with it but got tired of lugging it around. Sold it and bought a new EU2000i which is a great generator, we just can't use the Air Con anymore.

Jared

I don't think we disgree. Any 3000W generator should run the AC, but if you have a 2500W invertor it won't start the generator and shut off almost instantly while a 2500W conventional generator will struggle and potentially run the unit if it comes back up to speed and is adjusted correctly.


Bob de Kruyff
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Chandler, AZ
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