Front passenger side window leak [message #256116] |
Tue, 22 July 2014 13:21 |
mickey szilagyi
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We have been attempting to correct a small leak at the bottom of the passenger side front window. We replaced the track seals and caulked around the window. We still have a small leak. Recently we believe we discovered where the water is coming in. There is a body seam in the fiberglass that runs down just behind the window and it looks like there is a small crack down the seam just behind the window and we believe that's where the water is getting in. The water appears along the aft bottom portion of the window on the inside of the coach. The PO globbed a bunch of caulk there but it didn't work or has quite working.
We would like to seal the body seam and are about to use some exterior cream colored silicon caulk. Before we do is there something better? Our coach is the cream colored 77 Kinglsey. Someday we would like to put new paint on it. As always your input is greatly appreciated.
We also replaced all the seals on all the roof running lights so we're fairly certain the water isn't coming in through those.
Mickey
1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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Re: Front passenger side window leak [message #256134 is a reply to message #256116] |
Tue, 22 July 2014 18:04 |
thorndike
Messages: 406 Registered: January 2011 Location: Conifer, Colorado
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Mickey,
I am having the same problem but behind the passenger and driver's windows. Unfortunately the coach was idle for way too long and the water has delaminated and destroyed the plywood. It appears this was an issue before I bought it as well.
I too, have noticed what appears to be a crack in the body seam at that location and am wondering what the best solution is. I am hoping that this is where the leak is as I don't have a location yet where I can start removing interior panels and performing majore interior renovations.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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Re: [GMCnet] Front passenger side window leak [message #256185 is a reply to message #256138] |
Tue, 22 July 2014 23:58 |
thorndike
Messages: 406 Registered: January 2011 Location: Conifer, Colorado
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Emery and Armand
Thanks for the information! I will climb on a ladder and check it out this week. I have never heard of 3M Drip Check Sealer but will look for it.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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Re: Front passenger side window leak [message #256186 is a reply to message #256161] |
Wed, 23 July 2014 00:02 |
armandminnie
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I just finished painting my coach and I used a silicone remover to get the old silicone out of a several seams on the roof and sides. The silicone remover I used did help but it also removed paint. I have to believe that the paint it removed was not the original but it was not something I'd recommend unless you were preparing for repainting. Also, the only tool I could find to persuade the silicone to let loose was a wire brush and that definitely is going to do some damage to the paint under the silicone.
Armand Minnie
Marana, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Front passenger side window leak [message #256312 is a reply to message #256187] |
Wed, 23 July 2014 20:36 |
thorndike
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Wow, the 3m Drip Chek is $3/oz. This stuff is not cheap!
It looks like I have a lot of cracks to fill, so I wonder if there is an exterior caulk that might work just as well.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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Re: [GMCnet] Front passenger side window leak [message #256352 is a reply to message #256323] |
Thu, 24 July 2014 08:38 |
sgltrac
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Drip check sealer will actually flow into cracks doing a great job of sealing them rather than most caulks which just sit on the surface. Pretty hard to beat in an application where any tooling of the sealer to make it less visible will render the application ineffective.
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jul 23, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Armand Minnie wrote:
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> The Drip Check Sealer is for narrow seams where body panels come together. It goes a long way, can be worked into the seam, and looks great when
> painted. Caulk is, well, caulk - OK for stuff on the roof but not on the body sides.
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Re: [GMCnet] Front passenger side window leak [message #256356 is a reply to message #256352] |
Thu, 24 July 2014 09:28 |
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USAussie
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Armand / Sully,
Brand? Where to buy?
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Sullivan
Drip check sealer will actually flow into cracks doing a great job of sealing them rather than most caulks which just sit on the
surface. Pretty hard to beat in an application where any tooling of the sealer to make it less visible will render the application
ineffective.
Todd
On Jul 23, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Armand Minnie wrote:
The Drip Check Sealer is for narrow seams where body panels come together. It goes a long way, can be worked into the seam, and
looks great when painted. Caulk is, well, caulk - OK for stuff on the roof but not on the body sides.
Armand
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Re: Front passenger side window leak [message #256360 is a reply to message #256116] |
Thu, 24 July 2014 09:36 |
Bob S.
Messages: 143 Registered: October 2012 Location: Rapid City, SD
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I found a product available at Camping World that is called ProFlex RV. It is available in caulk tubes or a quart can that can be applied with a brush. I found a leak in the front side window of my Royale and treated it with the ProFlex. It is perfectly clear, cures quickly and will adhere to damp surfaces. Took me ten minutes (including masking area) looks great and no more leak. Great Stuff! I also repaired a pretty good size crack in a hard plastic kiddie pool and it has been holding water for over a week. It seems expensive but a little bit goes a long way. As the old ad said "Try it, You'll like it".
Bob and Pam Schilling
Rapid City, SD
"78 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] Front passenger side window leak [message #256382 is a reply to message #256356] |
Thu, 24 July 2014 12:04 |
sgltrac
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3m "drip check sealer"
Any autobody supply store.
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Jul 24, 2014, at 7:28 AM, "Rob Mueller" wrote:
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> Armand / Sully,
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> Brand? Where to buy?
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Sullivan
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> Drip check sealer will actually flow into cracks doing a great job of sealing them rather than most caulks which just sit on the
> surface. Pretty hard to beat in an application where any tooling of the sealer to make it less visible will render the application
> ineffective.
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> Todd
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> On Jul 23, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Armand Minnie wrote:
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> The Drip Check Sealer is for narrow seams where body panels come together. It goes a long way, can be worked into the seam, and
> looks great when painted. Caulk is, well, caulk - OK for stuff on the roof but not on the body sides.
>
> Armand
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Re: Front passenger side window leak [message #256391 is a reply to message #256116] |
Thu, 24 July 2014 13:44 |
An87ttype
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I second Captain Tolleys. Expensive, but it goes a very long way. I used it on my boats for years. It's great for actually finding the leak. You see it getting sucked in so you know where the leak is. It works even with the old cauk in place. Give it a try...
1975 Eleganza II
Hudson Valley NY
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Re: Front passenger side window leak [message #257700 is a reply to message #256116] |
Sun, 03 August 2014 21:31 |
mickey szilagyi
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Looks like we found the leak! It seems to be exactly where we thought, coming in from the seam that goes up to the curved part of the passenger window. There was a slight crack in that seam (runs up and down), visible from the outside. We ended up using polyurethane caulk for now and will do touch-up with paint over it. Had a few hard rains go through and all is dry. Thanks again and hope this helps others, too. The cracks aren't that easy to spot from the outside but the water sure has no problem getting through them. That Drip Check Sealer and Captain Tolleys sounds interesting. May have to look at that in the future.
Mickey
1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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