| LED Strips installation [message #255898] |
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RF_Burns
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I installed some LED strips in the clothes closest, appliance cupboard, both drawers and the electric service cupboard.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6635-led-lights.html
I purchased 3 rolls of warm white LED strips from China on-line for 15 bucks for 5 metres (~16 feet). You can cut the strip every 3" and solder power wires to the power pads on the strips.
I was hoping to use concealed magnetic switches as used by security systems. Trouble is they are NO (Normally Open) when the drawer or door is open. For this application I need NC (Normally closed) and those versions are about 10 times the cost. I tried using a second magnet, but the tolerance to get it working were very close. I settled on some small lever micro-switches. They are working OK but the switching tolerance is only about 1/8". I may end up throwing a microprocessor at it to invert the switching. Then I can put a time-out timer on the light as well.
I found the strips in the electric service cupboard fell off after 30 minutes or so. The double-sided tape, while labled 3M, is not great. The little bit of heat from the strip eventually turned the glue to goo. I epoxied those two strips today, we will see how that holds. The other strips are holding, but the use is intermittent in those applications.
I took a pic of the drawer without a flash to show the light from the strip. The second pic I used a flash so you can see the drawers I was photographing.
JWID
Bruce Hislop
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Strips installation [message #255906 is a reply to message #255898] |
Sat, 19 July 2014 20:57  |
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ljdavick
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Bruce,
That is the coolest thing! What a great idea.
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
> On Jul 19, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
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> I installed some LED strips in the clothes closest, appliance cupboard, both drawers and the electric service cupboard.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6635-led-lights.html
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> I purchased 3 rolls of warm white LED strips from China on-line for 15 bucks for 5 metres (~16 feet). You can cut the strip every 3" and solder power
> wires to the power pads on the strips.
>
> I was hoping to use concealed magnetic switches as used by security systems. Trouble is they are NO (Normally Open) when the drawer or door is open.
> For this application I need NC (Normally closed) and those versions are about 10 times the cost. I tried using a second magnet, but the tolerance to
> get it working were very close. I settled on some small lever micro-switches. They are working OK but the switching tolerance is only about 1/8". I
> may end up throwing a microprocessor at it to invert the switching. Then I can put a time-out timer on the light as well.
>
> I found the strips in the electric service cupboard fell off after 30 minutes or so. The double-sided tape, while labled 3M, is not great. The little
> bit of heat from the strip eventually turned the glue to goo. I epoxied those two strips today, we will see how that holds. The other strips are
> holding, but the use is intermittent in those applications.
>
> I took a pic of the drawer without a flash to show the light from the strip. The second pic I used a flash so you can see the drawers I was
> photographing.
>
> JWID
>
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> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
> Hubler 1 ton front end
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| Re: LED Strips installation [message #255915 is a reply to message #255898] |
Sat, 19 July 2014 22:30 |
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Matt Colie
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RF_Burns wrote on Sat, 19 July 2014 20:48I installed some LED strips in the clothes closest, appliance cupboard, both drawers and the electric service cupboard.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6635-led-lights.html
I purchased 3 rolls of warm white LED strips from China on-line for 15 bucks for 5 metres (~16 feet). You can cut the strip every 3" and solder power wires to the power pads on the strips.
I was hoping to use concealed magnetic switches as used by security systems. Trouble is they are NO (Normally Open) when the drawer or door is open. For this application I need NC (Normally closed) and those versions are about 10 times the cost. I tried using a second magnet, but the tolerance to get it working were very close. I settled on some small lever micro-switches. They are working OK but the switching tolerance is only about 1/8". I may end up throwing a microprocessor at it to invert the switching. Then I can put a time-out timer on the light as well.
I found the strips in the electric service cupboard fell off after 30 minutes or so. The double-sided tape, while labled 3M, is not great. The little bit of heat from the strip eventually turned the glue to goo. I epoxied those two strips today, we will see how that holds. The other strips are holding, but the use is intermittent in those applications.
I took a pic of the drawer without a flash to show the light from the strip. The second pic I used a flash so you can see the drawers I was photographing.
JWID
Bruce,
And it looks good.
If you put a short pass of any paint on the surface you want to stick to and go to a body shop and get "trim mount foam tape", it will be there forever.
I have a SPDT reed switches for alarms systems that I bought years ago and the premium over SPDT was not high. Try a little longer search. If you don't find, I will try to dig out my source.
Neat Work
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Strips installation [message #255924 is a reply to message #255898] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 03:44 |
Olly Schmidt
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Bruce,
> [..] I found the strips in the electric service cupboard fell off
> after 30 minutes or so. The double-sided tape, while labled 3M, is
> not great. The little bit of heat from the strip eventually turned
> the glue to goo. I epoxied those two strips today, we will see how
> that holds. The other strips are holding, but the use is intermittent
> in those applications.
when we renovated our home, I threw all of our regular lighting and
converted to LED stripes. One thing that I made sure was, to put each
and every stripe into an aluminum heatsink type U-profile. I've never
have had LED stripe come down from the ceiling. Granted, we are in no
earth quake country like a GMC is, but adding heatsink really does help
to keep things cool for the LEDs.
Being the cheapskate I am I looked _very_ long for a place to buy the
U-profiles. Most had them for 1m at 20EUR to 60EUR - with a total of
somewhere around 300m+ of LED stripes that would have been quite a big
number. Luck had it, that I found KLUS Design, who are located in Poland
for 4-5EUR a meter. Had to pay in advance, which made me cringe, but
everything went fine both times I ordered stuff.
JWID
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Strips installation [message #255925 is a reply to message #255924] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 04:18 |
cadelec
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I use led strips for lighting kitchen benches i mount led strips to a piece of aluminium angle then screw the angle to underneath the cupbouard
this gives a nice clean flat surface for the double sided tape to stick to
if i need to service i can undo the screws and pull out and work on the strip on the bench not upside down
i use a 25mm x 10 mm aluminium strip with the 10 mm side mounted towards the front and orientation vertically
this shields your eyes if it happens to be at eyelevel
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p55294-2011-07-08-14-23-22.html
Trevor
Brisbane Australia
Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores)
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Strips installation [message #255926 is a reply to message #255925] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 04:44 |
midlf
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cadelec wrote on Sun, 20 July 2014 04:18I use led strips for lighting kitchen benches i mount led strips to a piece of aluminium angle then screw the angle to underneath the cupbouard
this gives a nice clean flat surface for the double sided tape to stick to
if i need to service i can undo the screws and pull out and work on the strip on the bench not upside down
i use a 25mm x 10 mm aluminium strip with the 10 mm side mounted towards the front and orientation vertically
this shields your eyes if it happens to be at eyelevel
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p55294-2011-07-08-14-23-22.html
BINGO - I have a roll of these LEDs I'm going to use for floor lights and overhead lighting in the GMC. A friend had cautioned me about the adhesive problem. I've been trying to figure out how to overcome that and The GMCnet comes through again.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED Strips installation [message #255927 is a reply to message #255925] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 04:45 |
midlf
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cadelec wrote on Sun, 20 July 2014 04:18I use led strips for lighting kitchen benches i mount led strips to a piece of aluminium angle then screw the angle to underneath the cupbouard
this gives a nice clean flat surface for the double sided tape to stick to
if i need to service i can undo the screws and pull out and work on the strip on the bench not upside down
i use a 25mm x 10 mm aluminium strip with the 10 mm side mounted towards the front and orientation vertically
this shields your eyes if it happens to be at eyelevel
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p55294-2011-07-08-14-23-22.html
BINGO - I have a roll of these LEDs I'm going to use for floor lights and overhead lighting in the GMC. A friend had cautioned me about the adhesive problem. I've been trying to figure out how to overcome that and The GMCnet comes through again.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: LED Strips installation [message #255929 is a reply to message #255898] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 06:04 |
Ken Burton
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I have a strip of those things. I just have not decided what to do with them. Maybe I'll try what you did.
Great idea.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: LED Strips installation [message #255932 is a reply to message #255898] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 07:39 |
GeorgeRud
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I've done similar things on my coach's cabinets and closet, but used the pin type switches (like used on the 'open door' switch) to turn them on when the cabinet door is open. They allow easy adjustment so the lights don't go on and off accidentally while driving and the coach shaking around.
I think that we'll see more and more LED applications as we move forward in our homes as well. I certainly applaud their energy efficiency.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: LED Strips installation [message #255936 is a reply to message #255930] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 08:25 |
midlf
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carguy wrote on Sun, 20 July 2014 06:34If you guys keep coming up with great ideas like this I'll NEVER get my GMC finished.
Yeah - going on too many years now. At least it's on the road now and ready for trips. although still "not finished" but are they ever "finished".
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: LED Strips installation [message #255938 is a reply to message #255936] |
Sun, 20 July 2014 09:45 |
glenn2726
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The LEDs are cool lighting...I put a 17 ft strip underneath my awning against where the awning meets the rail on my Class C, used some silicone caulk about every 6 inches to insure it stayed on, just a dab to secure it. Ran the wire from the outside light switch under the coach and then inside and up a wall and then out to the light strip, I can control it with the outside light switch as well as an inline LED switch so I can turn it off separately or adjust the brightness as they are white and very bright...plan to do the same with my GMC.. They are also great for lighting the dash control switches behind where the old strip lighting was. Plan to also do some baseboard lighting with them for nightime and overhead lighting controlled with a dimmer. These are very reasonable now through either Ebay or Amazon..Glenn
Glenn W
Topeka, KS
1974 GMC 26 ft. Color:Camel Interior:Canyon Land
Side Bath, Rear Sitting Area
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