| Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255237] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 14:53  |
Gary Carlton
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In the continuing saga of my Road Grub, the passenger side lower brake caliper pin was missing allowing the caliper to drop and ride on the disc. This has resulted in about half the metal thickness in the disc flange to be machined away. Oh boy, another project.
So I have the disc and bearing spindle off the coach but while I was hoping otherwise, there is zero chance of separating the spindle and disc that I can see without pulling the two bearings off the spindle first.
The question is does anyone have bearing tool that I could borrow/rent or give me another option other than buying one new at $430?
Thank you in advance for any guideance you can offer.
gary
'78 Royale, "Road Grub"
Bellingham, WA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255239 is a reply to message #255237] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 15:16  |
Mr ERFisher
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yep
replace the whole thing
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html
save yourself time and money
erf
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Gary Carlton wrote:
> In the continuing saga of my Road Grub, the passenger side lower brake
> caliper pin was missing allowing the caliper to drop and ride on the disc.
> This
> has resulted in about half the metal thickness in the disc flange to be
> machined away. Oh boy, another project.
> So I have the disc and bearing spindle off the coach but while I was
> hoping otherwise, there is zero chance of separating the spindle and disc
> that I
> can see without pulling the two bearings off the spindle first.
>
> The question is does anyone have bearing tool that I could borrow/rent or
> give me another option other than buying one new at $430?
>
> Thank you in advance for any guideance you can offer.
> gary
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255257 is a reply to message #255253] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 19:15 |
lotsofspareparts
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Gary Carlton wrote on Sun, 13 July 2014 15:59That is food for thought. Thanks Jared.
It was one of those things where I had the stuff laying around to make it work. I needed to pull a few bearings but didn't have the "$430 one time use puller".
That certainly is a lot for something that may get used once or twice.
I didn't need a bearing puller..... I needed to pull a bearing......
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255270 is a reply to message #255253] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 20:23 |
lotsofspareparts
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Gary Carlton wrote on Sun, 13 July 2014 15:59That is food for thought. Thanks Jared.
Crap Gary, didn't even remember you were in B-Ham, do you ever make your way south? I can pull that bearing for you.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255282 is a reply to message #255270] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 21:29 |
Gary Carlton
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That would certainly be a way out of my predicament. Let me see if an option I have here pans out and if not I'll get ahold of you to arrange some time to do that.
gary
'78 Royale, "Road Grub"
Bellingham, WA
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255284 is a reply to message #255282] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 22:01 |
lotsofspareparts
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Gary Carlton wrote on Sun, 13 July 2014 19:29That would certainly be a way out of my predicament. Let me see if an option I have here pans out and if not I'll get ahold of you to arrange some time to do that.
gary
Let me know,
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255285 is a reply to message #255282] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 22:05 |
jimk
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Gary,
We can lt youn use our loaner tool n/c.
I will require $200 deposit and charge for freight.
The bearing puller will allow one to pull the bearings without damaging the
bearings.
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gary Carlton wrote:
> That would certainly be a way out of my predicament. Let me see if an
> option I have here pans out and if not I'll get ahold of you to arrange some
> time to do that.
> gary
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255290 is a reply to message #255285] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 22:22 |
lotsofspareparts
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jimk wrote on Sun, 13 July 2014 20:05Gary,
We can lt youn use our loaner tool n/c.
I will require $200 deposit and charge for freight.
The bearing puller will allow one to pull the bearings without damaging the
bearings.
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gary Carlton wrote:
> That would certainly be a way out of my predicament. Let me see if an
> option I have here pans out and if not I'll get ahold of you to arrange some
> time to do that.
> gary
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No disrespect Jim, are you implying that I damaged my bearings during removal?
I had Mike the owner of my local Napa check them out since I was considering replacement and he said they were in great condition.
What is so wrong with finding a way to do something other than what the "Manual" says to do??
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255295 is a reply to message #255257] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 22:58 |
Bullitthead
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Jared,
Glad you were able to overcome that bad design and get your bearing off. I used the same setup and the tips broke off the puller. I could not get the tips of my hydraulic puller under the bearing because of that retainer, so I had to use one like you used. That bearing had been on there for 40 years, I guess, and all I wanted to do was change the rotor, but THE FORCE was not with me and was in fact telling me not to mess with it, keep it as a spare, and work with my other parts instead. Too bad I didn't realize that until I had already cut the bearing to pieces to get it off. The bearing on the hub with the good rotor came off with no problem using the same setup (after I got 2 replacement jaws).
If I had purchased that $400 puller from Howard (whom I got the parts from), it surely would have broken too. Then I would have really been ticked off.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255297 is a reply to message #255257] |
Sun, 13 July 2014 23:16 |
Otterwan
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lotsofspareparts wrote on Sun, 13 July 2014 17:15
I didn't need a bearing puller..... I needed to pull a bearing......
Jared
Hmmmmmmmm..........that sounds familiar...........
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255313 is a reply to message #255237] |
Mon, 14 July 2014 08:52 |
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Gary,
Here's a link to a procedure and video that shows how to remove the bearings:
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/front_bearings/
http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2006/06/ken-thoma-video.html
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Carlton
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Subject: [GMCnet] Front Bearing Puller Options
In the continuing saga of my Road Grub, the passenger side lower brake caliper pin was missing allowing the caliper to drop and ride
on the disc. This has resulted in about half the metal thickness in the disc flange to be machined away. Oh boy, another project.
So I have the disc and bearing spindle off the coach but while I was hoping otherwise, there is zero chance of separating the
spindle and disc that I can see without pulling the two bearings off the spindle first.
The question is does anyone have bearing tool that I could borrow/rent or give me another option other than buying one new at $430?
Thank you in advance for any guideance you can offer.
gary
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255337 is a reply to message #255314] |
Mon, 14 July 2014 13:38 |
lotsofspareparts
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Jp Benson wrote on Mon, 14 July 2014 07:17I like that home brew setup with the three jaw puller but a word of caution. If the bearing removes too easily, then the shaft may be worn and needs repair/replacement. Have it checked before re-assembly.
JP
I had to work my arm for sure to get the first one off and my 3/8 impact made the other side come off easier, used a piece of pipe and a 6 top shop press to reassemble.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: Front Bearing Puller Options [message #255355 is a reply to message #255354] |
Mon, 14 July 2014 17:20 |
lotsofspareparts
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Jp Benson wrote on Mon, 14 July 2014 15:11"I had to work my arm for sure to get the first one off and my 3/8 impact made the other side come off easier, used a piece of pipe and a 6 top shop press to reassemble."
Jared
That sounds good and tight. One of mine was loose enough to pry off by hand. Lucky I replaced the bearing before catastrophic failure.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/restoration-photos/p43840-bower-bearing.html
JP
That was close!! What vintage were the bearings? Mine were Timken all the way around so am sure they have been replaced.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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