Dash Air Conditioner No Cool [message #253867] |
Mon, 30 June 2014 17:30 |
rjw
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I've noticed that my dash air (converted to duracool) is not blowing cool air.
First thought was to top off the refrigerant. I connected my gauge set, turned on the engine and AC and noticed the compressor was not on. I jumped the two leads on the pressure switch and got the compressor to come on. I started to add duracool, but noticed that the low side pressure was 60 and the high side was less than 50 with the compressor turning. I think low side should be about 20-25 and high side on a hot day should be something like 150 - 200 psi range. I'm thinking that I have a bad compressor. It's probably the original. I replaced the clutch 4-5 years ago. Or maybe the expansion valve is clogged. In the event I have to change out the compressor and receiver dryer I do have a vacuum pump and a large supply of refrigerant.
Any ideas on how to confirm a bad compressor?
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com
Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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Re: Dash Air Conditioner No Cool [message #253895 is a reply to message #253867] |
Mon, 30 June 2014 19:59 |
roy1
Messages: 2126 Registered: July 2004 Location: Minden nevada
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rjw wrote on Mon, 30 June 2014 15:30I've noticed that my dash air (converted to duracool) is not blowing cool air.
First thought was to top off the refrigerant. I connected my gauge set, turned on the engine and AC and noticed the compressor was not on. I jumped the two leads on the pressure switch and got the compressor to come on. I started to add duracool, but noticed that the low side pressure was 60 and the high side was less than 50 with the compressor turning. I think low side should be about 20-25 and high side on a hot day should be something like 150 - 200 psi range. I'm thinking that I have a bad compressor. It's probably the original. I replaced the clutch 4-5 years ago. Or maybe the expansion valve is clogged. In the event I have to change out the compressor and receiver dryer I do have a vacuum pump and a large supply of refrigerant.
Any ideas on how to confirm a bad compressor?
You just diagnosed it as a bad compressor. Did you observe that the compressor shaft is actually rotating ? If the clutch were bad it may not rotate if it is in fact rotating I would say the compressor has bad valves or broken internal parts. Your gage may be a little out of calibration as it isn't possible for the high side to be lower then the low side. Last month I started charging a friends 1970 el camino after the a/c had not run for several years the high side was around 20 lbs higher then the low . I told him the compressor wasn't pumping and we would probably have to replace it. I figured what do we have to lose so I dumped in some R22 on top of the can of Duracool . I had him put a few miles on it and I'll be damned it started pumping so I evacuated it and put in a couple of cans of Duracool . Sometimes you get lucky.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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Re: Dash Air Conditioner No Cool [message #253953 is a reply to message #253895] |
Tue, 01 July 2014 06:04 |
rjw
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roy1 wrote on Mon, 30 June 2014 20:59rjw wrote on Mon, 30 June 2014 15:30I've noticed that my dash air (converted to duracool) is not blowing cool air.
First thought was to top off the refrigerant. I connected my gauge set, turned on the engine and AC and noticed the compressor was not on. I jumped the two leads on the pressure switch and got the compressor to come on. I started to add duracool, but noticed that the low side pressure was 60 and the high side was less than 50 with the compressor turning. I think low side should be about 20-25 and high side on a hot day should be something like 150 - 200 psi range. I'm thinking that I have a bad compressor. It's probably the original. I replaced the clutch 4-5 years ago. Or maybe the expansion valve is clogged. In the event I have to change out the compressor and receiver dryer I do have a vacuum pump and a large supply of refrigerant.
Any ideas on how to confirm a bad compressor?
You just diagnosed it as a bad compressor. Did you observe that the compressor shaft is actually rotating ? If the clutch were bad it may not rotate if it is in fact rotating I would say the compressor has bad valves or broken internal parts. Your gage may be a little out of calibration as it isn't possible for the high side to be lower then the low side. Last month I started charging a friends 1970 el camino after the a/c had not run for several years the high side was around 20 lbs higher then the low . I told him the compressor wasn't pumping and we would probably have to replace it. I figured what do we have to lose so I dumped in some R22 on top of the can of Duracool . I had him put a few miles on it and I'll be damned it started pumping so I evacuated it and put in a couple of cans of Duracool . Sometimes you get lucky.
Roy, Thanks for the reply. I did not actually see if the compressor was actually rotating, but I could hear a click and the engine sound change slightly when I jumped the two leads on the pressure switch. As far as the gauge readings, on second thought they were approximately the same. I should have realized that the high side could not be lower than the low side. I'll take another look at the system and then start shopping for another compressor. Maybe I should go with a Sanden? I wonder what is the model number for the Sanden replacement for the GM A6?
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com
Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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Re: Dash Air Conditioner No Cool [message #253980 is a reply to message #253951] |
Tue, 01 July 2014 11:04 |
roy1
Messages: 2126 Registered: July 2004 Location: Minden nevada
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Chris Tyler wrote on Tue, 01 July 2014 01:06Whats the idea behind the R22? Or did you mean R12?
I have very little R12 left since my daughters boy friend lifted my last 30 pounder. I still have 25 pounds of 22 & should have more but sold off 400lbs when I moved. I use a few ounces of 22 for leak checking. I didn't complete the charge I just wanted the pressure to be a little elevated for a short time to see if the valves could get unstuck and 22 seemed like a good choice
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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