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Mon, 09 June 2014 14:47

Michael Leipold

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I have a 73 without factory AC and the alternator is mounted on the passenger side.
I think I am missing something since, it does not look similar to anything I have seen online with an Olds 455.
I also cannot run a double pulley because of this.

Does anyone have an extra set of alternator brackets?
I would like to move it to the driver side if it not going to be a huge issue.

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Re: [GMCnet] Alternator Bracket [message #251848 is a reply to message #251827]

Mon, 09 June 2014 19:13

Kingsley Coach

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Interesting !!
What is the TZE and where do you live??

Mike in NS

On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Michael wrote:

> I have a 73 without factory AC and the alternator is mounted on the
> passenger side.
> I think I am missing something since, it does not look similar to anything
> I have seen online with an Olds 455.
> I also cannot run a double pulley because of this.
>
> Does anyone have an extra set of alternator brackets?
> I would like to move it to the driver side if it not going to be a huge
> issue.
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> transmission with Powerdrive
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Re: [GMCnet] Alternator Bracket [message #251850 is a reply to message #251827]

Mon, 09 June 2014 20:17

sgltrac

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Is it an Oldsmobile engine?

Todd Sullivan

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77 royale
Seattle

> On Jun 9, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> I have a 73 without factory AC and the alternator is mounted on the passenger side.
> I think I am missing something since, it does not look similar to anything I have seen online with an Olds 455.
> I also cannot run a double pulley because of this.
>
> Does anyone have an extra set of alternator brackets?
> I would like to move it to the driver side if it not going to be a huge issue.
> --
> 1973 GMC 26' Glacier - Unknown Mileage - Has a new switch pitch transmission with Powerdrive
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Re: [GMCnet] Alternator Bracket [message #251855 is a reply to message #251850]

Mon, 09 June 2014 20:56

A Hamilto

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sgltrac wrote on Mon, 09 June 2014 20:17

Is it an Oldsmobile engine?

Todd Sullivan

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Seattle

Didn't know they were so rare. My CanyonLands came from the factory without dash air, but I thought it was more unique because of the Kohler genset.

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251856 is a reply to message #251827]

Mon, 09 June 2014 20:59

midlf

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251857 is a reply to message #251827]

Mon, 09 June 2014 21:01

midlf

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Michael Leipold wrote on Mon, 09 June 2014 14:47

I have a 73 without factory AC and the alternator is mounted on the passenger side.
I think I am missing something since, it does not look similar to anything I have seen online with an Olds 455.
I also cannot run a double pulley because of this.

Does anyone have an extra set of alternator brackets?
I would like to move it to the driver side if it not going to be a huge issue.

The parts book shows this pass side mounting for an engine w/o A/C. Section 7.029

Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251877 is a reply to message #251827]

Tue, 10 June 2014 08:20

Michael Leipold

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Hahaha, Yes it is a GMC with an Oldsmobile 455 engine.
I do not know the TZE off the top of my head, and I live in Greensboro NC.

It stays pretty warm in that fishbowl of a cockpit.
Thankfully, Mr. Wheeler helped me install a floor vent before I drove cross country and back in the middle of summer 2011.
Maybe lack of an A/C compressor helped my fuel economy. Wink

Wink

Very Happy

So, back to the topic...
Does anyone have spare alternator mounting brackets?
I would prefer to move it to the driver side, so I can run a double pulley.

And if it is not raining tonight and I remember, I can take pics

1973 GMC 26' Glacier - Unknown Mileage - Has a new switch pitch transmission with Powerdrive Smile

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251910 is a reply to message #251877]

Tue, 10 June 2014 17:32

Bob de Kruyff

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Michael Leipold wrote on Tue, 10 June 2014 07:20

Hahaha, Yes it is a GMC with an Oldsmobile 455 engine.
I do not know the TZE off the top of my head, and I live in Greensboro NC.

It stays pretty warm in that fishbowl of a cockpit.
Thankfully, Mr. Wheeler helped me install a floor vent before I drove cross country and back in the middle of summer 2011.
Maybe lack of an A/C compressor helped my fuel economy.

So, back to the topic...
Does anyone have spare alternator mounting brackets?
I would prefer to move it to the driver side, so I can run a double pulley.

And if it is not raining tonight and I remember, I can take pics

It's hard to believe that A/C was optional. That was sort of the mentality back then. I think there are a few people here that have original non-AC coaches.

Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251932 is a reply to message #251827]

Wed, 11 June 2014 07:55

Michael Leipold

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The pics of my alternator mounting.
It looks like nothing I have seen on any Olds 455.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/alternator-location-w-o-air/p54976-photo-112.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6618/medium/photo_112.JPG

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/alternator-location-w-o-air/p54977-photo-27.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6618/medium/photo_27.JPG

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/alternator-location-w-o-air/p54978-photo-35.html

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6618/medium/photo_35.JPG

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Re: [GMCnet] Alternator Bracket [message #251933 is a reply to message #251932]

Wed, 11 June 2014 08:11

Mr ERFisher

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Other than the fact "it does ,not yet Havana an APC cable",it looks like
most gmc alternators , and wiring .
Erf

On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, Michael wrote:

> The pics of my alternator mounting.
> It looks like nothing I have seen on any Olds 455.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/alternator-location-w-o-air/p54976-photo-112.html
>
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/alternator-location-w-o-air/p54977-photo-27.html
>
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/alternator-location-w-o-air/p54978-photo-35.html
>
>
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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251935 is a reply to message #251827]

Wed, 11 June 2014 08:36

Michael Leipold

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I agree that it is a GM alternator, but my concern is the mounting.
I would like to either move it to the driver side or replace the brackets with common Olds 455 brackets.
I believe the alternator twists when under load, and prematurely wears out the front bearing.

1973 GMC 26' Glacier - Unknown Mileage - Has a new switch pitch transmission with Powerdrive Smile

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251958 is a reply to message #251935]

Wed, 11 June 2014 12:02

Bob de Kruyff

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Michael Leipold wrote on Wed, 11 June 2014 07:36

I agree that it is a GM alternator, but my concern is the mounting.
I would like to either move it to the driver side or replace the brackets with common Olds 455 brackets.
I believe the alternator twists when under load, and prematurely wears out the front bearing.

Those look like standard factory 455 brackets.

Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251959 is a reply to message #251935]

Wed, 11 June 2014 12:16

Matt Colie

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Michael Leipold wrote on Wed, 11 June 2014 09:36

I agree that it is a GM alternator, but my concern is the mounting.
I would like to either move it to the driver side or replace the brackets with common Olds 455 brackets.
I believe the alternator twists when under load, and prematurely wears out the front bearing.

Michael,

the twist with shorten the belt life in a hurry, but it will not affect the front bearing much at all. The Olds brackets are less than effective with out the strut that is usually left off the A/C equipped engines. You can see it in the parts books. I have not looked to see if the right side mount is supposed ot have it also. We are in traffic and I am navigating.

Matt

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #251989 is a reply to message #251959]

Wed, 11 June 2014 18:30

larry.whisler

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I just finished pulling the engine and drive train from a 66
toronado that did not have air conditioning.

The alternator on this engine is mounted on the passenger side of the engine
and the mounting brackets are the same as those in your pics.

fyi

larry

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Re: Alternator Bracket [message #252018 is a reply to message #251910]

Thu, 12 June 2014 13:37

rjw

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[quote title=Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 10 June 2014 18:32]Michael Leipold wrote on Tue, 10 June 2014 07:20

It's hard to believe that A/C was optional. That was sort of the mentality back then. I think there are a few people here that have original non-AC coaches.

My neighbor's '73 26' Canyon Lands also did not come with factory dash AC. He told me that it would have been something like another $50 for factory air and he thought that running his Onan to power the roof air was all he needed. I believe the alternator was on the passenger side as well. He died a few years ago and his coach is with another proud GMC owner.

Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.

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Thu, 12 June 2014 14:08

Michael Leipold

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I just ordered a set of passenger side brackets from Jim Bounds.
He had the 3-piece set-up that came off another GMC.

He also said he has only seen one other GMC without A/C.

Kinda sad that A/C was only $50 dollars back in the day and people opted out of it.

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