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Sat, 31 May 2014 07:43  |
tgeiger
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Ok, I know this is simple but sense the number one cause of RV fires is wiring, and I'm not too wippy on electrical stuff I want to check to make sure this is correct. I have got my new stainless steel water heater in and am wiring up...is it black to black, white to white and the ground wiring goes together...or have I got that wrong? I have a black wire coming off the thermostate control and going to the heating element. I have another black wire coming off the thermo and connecting to a black wire coming from juntion box. I have the white wire coming off the heating element and connecting to the incoming white wire from the junction box. Also, don't see how this new thermostat mounts anywhere...I guess I could use the single grounding bolt on the tank??
Thanks, Tom
76 Eleganza II
Tom Geiger
76 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] water heater wiring [message #251096 is a reply to message #251084] |
Sat, 31 May 2014 13:01  |
powerjon
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Tom,
In AC 110VAC wiring which is typical in our coaches you have black which is the hot, White which is the neutral and green or bare copper conductor which is ground. The thermostat can be mounted to the surface of the tank with some red RTV silicone. It should go where it was mounted on the old tank. In maintenance manual X7525B Section 24J-22 FIG. 43 is the layout for a type 2 hot water tank. If you have the type 1 look at pages 24J20 & 21 figures 38, 39.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On May 31, 2014, at 8:43 AM, tom geiger wrote:
> Ok, I know this is simple but sense the number one cause of RV fires is wiring, and I'm not too wimpy on electrical stuff I want to check to make
> sure this is correct. I have got my new stainless steel water heater in and am wiring up...is it black to black, white to white and the ground wiring
> goes together...or have I got that wrong? I have a black wire coming off the thermostate control and going to the heating element. I have another
> black wire coming off the thermo and connecting to a black wire coming from juntion box. I have the white wire coming off the heating element and
> connecting to the incoming white wire from the junction box. Also, don't see how this new thermostat mounts anywhere...I guess I could use the
> single grounding bolt on the tank??
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 76 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] water heater wiring [message #251097 is a reply to message #251096] |
Sat, 31 May 2014 13:12 |
powerjon
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One more thing, it appears that you have the wiring correct.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On May 31, 2014, at 2:01 PM, John Wright wrote:
> Tom,
> In AC 110VAC wiring which is typical in our coaches you have black which is the hot, White which is the neutral and green or bare copper conductor which is ground. The thermostat can be mounted to the surface of the tank with some red RTV silicone. It should go where it was mounted on the old tank. In maintenance manual X7525B Section 24J-22 FIG. 43 is the layout for a type 2 hot water tank. If you have the type 1 look at pages 24J20 & 21 figures 38, 39.
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> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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> On May 31, 2014, at 8:43 AM, tom geiger wrote:
>
>> Ok, I know this is simple but sense the number one cause of RV fires is wiring, and I'm not too wimpy on electrical stuff I want to check to make
>> sure this is correct. I have got my new stainless steel water heater in and am wiring up...is it black to black, white to white and the ground wiring
>> goes together...or have I got that wrong? I have a black wire coming off the thermostate control and going to the heating element. I have another
>> black wire coming off the thermo and connecting to a black wire coming from juntion box. I have the white wire coming off the heating element and
>> connecting to the incoming white wire from the junction box. Also, don't see how this new thermostat mounts anywhere...I guess I could use the
>> single grounding bolt on the tank??
>>
>> Thanks, Tom
>> 76 Eleganza II
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| Re: water heater wiring [message #251118 is a reply to message #251084] |
Sat, 31 May 2014 17:54 |
Ken Burton
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tgeiger wrote on Sat, 31 May 2014 07:43Ok, I know this is simple but sense the number one cause of RV fires is wiring, and I'm not too wippy on electrical stuff I want to check to make sure this is correct. I have got my new stainless steel water heater in and am wiring up...is it black to black, white to white and the ground wiring goes together...or have I got that wrong? I have a black wire coming off the thermostat control and going to the heating element. I have another black wire coming off the thermo and connecting to a black wire coming from junction box. I have the white wire coming off the heating element and connecting to the incoming white wire from the junction box. Also, don't see how this new thermostat mounts anywhere...I guess I could use the single grounding bolt on the tank??
Thanks, Tom
76 Eleganza II
white to white and the ground wiring goes together..
Maybe I'm misreading your statement but the white and ground are NOT connected together. White goes to the heating element as you described and the ground goes to a good connection direct to the tank such at a bolt mounting the heating element.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] water heater wiring [message #251120 is a reply to message #251118] |
Sat, 31 May 2014 18:03 |
powerjon
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Ken,
You are correct, I missed the comment on white and green connected.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On May 31, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
> tgeiger wrote on Sat, 31 May 2014 07:43
>> Ok, I know this is simple but sense the number one cause of RV fires is wiring, and I'm not too wippy on electrical stuff I want to check to
>> make sure this is correct. I have got my new stainless steel water heater in and am wiring up...is it black to black, white to white and the ground
>> wiring goes together...or have I got that wrong? I have a black wire coming off the thermostat control and going to the heating element. I have
>> another black wire coming off the thermo and connecting to a black wire coming from junction box. I have the white wire coming off the heating
>> element and connecting to the incoming white wire from the junction box. Also, don't see how this new thermostat mounts anywhere...I guess I could
>> use the single grounding bolt on the tank??
>>
>> Thanks, Tom
>> 76 Eleganza II
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> white to white and the ground wiring goes together..
>
> Maybe I'm misreading your statement but the white and ground are NOT connected together. White goes to the heating element as you described and the
> ground goes to a good connection direct to the tank such at a bolt mounting the heating element.
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> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] water heater wiring [message #251136 is a reply to message #251120] |
Sat, 31 May 2014 21:58 |
John Olson
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Does the linked pic show an acceptable wiring scheme? Assuming one has the
exact model thermostat shown in the picture (I do).
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/American-single-120-700.jpg
John Olson
76 Edgemonte
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 6:03 PM, John Wright wrote:
> Ken,
> You are correct, I missed the comment on white and green connected.
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
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> On May 31, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
>
>> tgeiger wrote on Sat, 31 May 2014 07:43
>>> Ok, I know this is simple but sense the number one cause of RV fires
> is wiring, and I'm not too wippy on electrical stuff I want to check to
>>> make sure this is correct. I have got my new stainless steel water
> heater in and am wiring up...is it black to black, white to white and the
> ground
>>> wiring goes together...or have I got that wrong? I have a black wire
> coming off the thermostat control and going to the heating element. I have
>>> another black wire coming off the thermo and connecting to a black wire
> coming from junction box. I have the white wire coming off the heating
>>> element and connecting to the incoming white wire from the junction
> box. Also, don't see how this new thermostat mounts anywhere...I guess I
> could
>>> use the single grounding bolt on the tank??
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tom
>>> 76 Eleganza II
>>
>>
>> white to white and the ground wiring goes together..
>>
>> Maybe I'm misreading your statement but the white and ground are NOT
> connected together. White goes to the heating element as you described and
> the
>> ground goes to a good connection direct to the tank such at a bolt
> mounting the heating element.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: water heater wiring [message #251152 is a reply to message #251084] |
Sun, 01 June 2014 09:02 |
tgeiger
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Thanks guys for responding...I got it conneted up and it dosn't seem to have worked...I give myself a big rasberry, Thhhhhhhhhhhhhh....for my electrical skills...I just have to laugh and give a big sigh and then re-group. I do have everything wired up as you guys mentioned. white goes from heating element to white wire feed...black goes from heating element over to thermo and then from thermo to black feed. Grounding wires are wire nutted together and then are grounded at the little box on the tank blue frame and also back at the nearby junction box. I've got it on now and I'll see if it heats up...if it dosn't I'm powering down and opening up the nearby juction box to check the wiring in there and then additionaly will ground at the tank ground bolt provided...I figure what the hell, won't hurt.
Tom Geiger
76 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] water heater wiring [message #251177 is a reply to message #251152] |
Sun, 01 June 2014 14:39 |
powerjon
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Tom,
Do you have a trouble shoot light to check and see if you have any power at the thermostat or at the heater terminal? That would be my first choice and then back up from there to the switch.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On Jun 1, 2014, at 10:02 AM, tom geiger wrote:
> Thanks guys for responding...I got it conneted up and it dosn't seem to have worked...I give myself a big rasberry, Thhhhhhhhhhhhhh....for my
> electrical skills...I just have to laugh and give a big sigh and then re-group. I do have everything wired up as you guys mentioned. white goes from
> heating element to white wire feed...black goes from heating element over to thermo and then from thermo to black feed. Grounding wires are wire
> nutted together and then are grounded at the little box on the tank blue frame and also back at the nearby junction box. I've got it on now and I'll
> see if it heats up...if it dosn't I'm powering down and opening up the nearby juction box to check the wiring in there and then additionaly will
> ground at the tank ground bolt provided...I figure what the hell, won't hurt.
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78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
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