| GMC Transportation [message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 08:15  |
BRDRVR
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Is anyone familiar with shipping a GMC via rail? Im looking for alternate ways to move 10 GMCs form Florida to Nevada. The plan right now is to do FL-Vegas 5 at a time and then shuttle them up to the ranch. I got a budget of $1500 each. Any ideas?
Thanx. David
David Gourdine
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Transportation [message #250807 is a reply to message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 09:15  |
Olly Schmidt
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David,
> Is anyone familiar with shipping a GMC via rail? Im looking for alternate ways to move 10 GMCs form Florida to Nevada.
I don't have a suggestion, but I *DO* want to see a pic, when they are
all on the train :)
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Transportation [message #250808 is a reply to message #250807] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 09:32 |
jhbridges
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If you have someplace to get them on and off a flat car, you could strap them down. I see where a flat car is 53' long, which means 2 coaches to the car. Five cars to Flat Rock - or wherever is close. 15 Large wil get ten coaches roughly three thousand muiles >barring major failures<.
I'd ask the local choo choo company for a quote as well. If it comes in under budget, give them the nod. Way less trouble.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250811 is a reply to message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 09:51 |
rcjordan
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A quick search turns up no transporters but a couple of points worth considering:
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/24460041/gotomsg/24460630.cfm#24460630
[1] vibration damage
A colleague at work back in the 1970's had worked for Open Road RV in Florida. The were heavily criticised by their West Coast dealers that "new" RV's showed up with over 5000 miles on the odometers before the dealer ever saw them. This was because the chassis were driven from Detroit to OR's factory in Florida and the finished RV was then driven from Florida out to the West Coast. I never found out how the bare chassis survived a rail trip, but he told me about a test they ran with completed rigs to investigate the feasibility of rail shipment.
The railroads advised VERY strongly against it because freght trains give such a rough ride. OR decided to test and took a brand new Class C and a brand new Class A off the line after completion. They decided that Florida to Chicago would be a good enough test, and it was a single train, without the need to shut the car the RVs were on.
When the train was due in Chicago, three guys from OR went to meet it. When the train pulled into the yard, they looked fine, but when they opened thr doors to the two rigs, the entire interior of each was a pile of debris on the floor.
[2] graffiti
>budget
Contact JimB and see if that guy out of El Paso is still doing 2-gmcs-on-flatbed transporting. The last I heard, it would be within your budget.
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250813 is a reply to message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 09:58 |
rcjordan
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>double decker
Yeah. See http://www.autorail.com/
I think that's the one that (goes?) used to go to Sanford, FL. Pricey.
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250814 is a reply to message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 10:09 |
werewilfs
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Time to get 10 volunteers, make it a GMC convoy from Florida to Nevada and pay for their airfare home. That'd actually be a lot of fun. Would probably come under your $1500 budget per coach too.
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250819 is a reply to message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 11:34 |
lqqkatjon
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I am curious just how many GMC's does a guy have to fly across the country and drive home to become a veteran picker upper?
wish i had more time and money to work toward that designation. I would think Dave would want to get those coaches out to the desert soon. a trip now, I would think would be easier then if you are trying to travel from Florida to Vegas mid July. could be hot in the south even overnight.
looks about 35 hours of actual drive time from central florida to vegas, maybe $1100 in fuel @ 8mpg.
I have never seen an RV on a rail car. they are constantly being towed or driven down the freeways around here though by transport companies. not sure why... maybe cost.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Transportation [message #250822 is a reply to message #250814] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 11:52 |
powerjon
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I would suggest that they might be tagged by every tagger and arrive in a colorful condition. That is why they ship cars in the special railcars.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On May 28, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Jared & Stefanie Kohl wrote:
> Time to get 10 volunteers, make it a GMC convoy from Florida to Nevada and pay for their airfare home. That'd actually be a lot of fun. Would
> probably come under your $1500 budget per coach too.
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> Rappahannock County, VA
> 1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Transportation [message #250827 is a reply to message #250819] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 13:28 |
dan molnes
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Jon, I was going to throw your name out there for a driver, florida beats
the hell out of Wisconsin ! Oh to answer your question Minneapolis, new
mexico Wisconsin, California, Idaho (2) and about 3 in eastern wa. only
difference between Dave and me is he's going to make some money, I'll be
rich in the people that I meet
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Jon Roche wrote:
> I am curious just how many GMC's does a guy have to fly across the country
> and drive home to become a veteran picker upper?
>
> wish i had more time and money to work toward that designation. I would
> think Dave would want to get those coaches out to the desert soon. a trip
> now, I would think would be easier then if you are trying to travel from
> Florida to Vegas mid July. could be hot in the south even overnight.
>
> looks about 35 hours of actual drive time from central florida to vegas,
> maybe $1100 in fuel @ 8mpg.
>
> I have never seen an RV on a rail car. they are constantly being towed
> or driven down the freeways around here though by transport companies. not
> sure why... maybe cost.
>
>
>
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> St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250845 is a reply to message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 18:26 |
Cadillackeeper
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Maybe just 5 west then drive back the 5 drivers in a coach you need here.Then drive the other 5 and fly 4 guys home. I would also be able to drive for you,just take some time off is all...
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250847 is a reply to message #250804] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 18:39 |
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When we took the Copper Canyon train trip in Mexico we noticed a ton of RVs at the rail station in El Paso. People were putting them on the train to go down to El Fuerte, Mexico. The owners then rode the train on the trip down. I can't say what all the people found left of their RVs when they got to El Fuerte but this happened all the time so it couldn't have been that bad. Interesting story but probably not much help.
Mickey
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250863 is a reply to message #250847] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 22:02 |
Bob de Kruyff
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mickey szilagyi wrote on Wed, 28 May 2014 17:39When we took the Copper Canyon train trip in Mexico we noticed a ton of RVs at the rail station in El Paso. People were putting them on the train to go down to El Fuerte, Mexico. The owners then rode the train on the trip down. I can't say what all the people found left of their RVs when they got to El Fuerte but this happened all the time so it couldn't have been that bad. Interesting story but probably not much help.
Train shipment can be very destructive on a vehicle (I'm talking high speed cross country shipment). Car and truck design has to comprehend extreme vertical and lateral inputs for things like engine mounts, exhaust systems, and underhood components. If they can survive the delivery trip, the rest is easy. Rail travel is much more damaging than truck delivery mostly because of the rythmic inputs.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: GMC Transportation [message #250879 is a reply to message #250863] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 23:17 |
habbyguy
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Wed, 28 May 2014 20:02Train shipment can be very destructive on a vehicle (I'm talking high speed cross country shipment). Car and truck design has to comprehend extreme vertical and lateral inputs for things like engine mounts, exhaust systems, and underhood components. If they can survive the delivery trip, the rest is easy. Rail travel is much more damaging than truck delivery mostly because of the rythmic inputs.
Would it help to air the tires down to a minimum to decouple the body / drive train from the rail car's higher-frequency inputs? Same with the rear suspension - maybe deflate them to about half height (of course, I would bet that more than a couple of the coaches will "self-deflate" on the way).
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Transportation [message #250880 is a reply to message #250863] |
Wed, 28 May 2014 23:22 |
dwayne jacobson[1]
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I have received 2 offers to drive our coach from Portland to Chicago next
week. I also thought of looking at transporting it. I had forgotten there
are those out there that do it for fun and a part time living. Will give
this serious thought over the next couple days. Not sure when I will
comfortable enough to do the drive myself. Even part way would help. The
leg is getting better every day. So much better being at home than in the
hospital
Any one interested in driving
you can contact me email dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com
Dwayne and Sharon Jacobson
77 kingsley
1 ton front end, 6 disc brakes, new final drive and front axles.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:
> mickey szilagyi wrote on Wed, 28 May 2014 17:39
>> When we took the Copper Canyon train trip in Mexico we noticed a ton of
> RVs at the rail station in El Paso. People were putting them on the train
>> to go down to El Fuerte, Mexico. The owners then rode the train on the
> trip down. I can't say what all the people found left of their RVs when
>> they got to El Fuerte but this happened all the time so it couldn't have
> been that bad. Interesting story but probably not much help.
>
> Train shipment can be very destructive on a vehicle (I'm talking high
> speed cross country shipment). Car and truck design has to comprehend
> extreme
> vertical and lateral inputs for things like engine mounts, exhaust
> systems, and underhood components. If they can survive the delivery trip,
> the rest
> is easy. Rail travel is much more damaging than truck delivery mostly
> because of the rythmic inputs.
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> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
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