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[GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248299] Wed, 23 April 2014 18:13 Go to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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I'll bet someone could devise a way to operate Onan chokes with these:

http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G19838

If I hadn't devised another way of priming my TroyBIlt, I'd be trying it.

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248306 is a reply to message #248299] Wed, 23 April 2014 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What if it was hooked up to the starter solenoid to
close the choke while cranking?


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248307 is a reply to message #248306] Wed, 23 April 2014 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Bill Wevers <gmc1975@att.net> wrote:

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> What if it was hooked up to the starter solenoid to
> close the choke while cranking?
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248313 is a reply to message #248299] Wed, 23 April 2014 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Ken,
This was the electronic rotary style unit that many bought and used back in 2007. I had bought 10 and sold 6 to Alex sirum. I do not know if he would still have any left. I have one left that I am going to install on the onan in the Avion.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3301-electronic-choke-replacement.html

The one that you have researched is a linear style with a .5 stroke.
I would see no problem using this type and mounting similar to the rotary style but used as a linear stroke movement. I guess it would depend on where you mount the connecting rod to take advantage of the shorter stroke of the linear unit. You would want the chock closed but not under tension from the solenoid. Should work!

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I'll bet someone could devise a way to operate Onan chokes with these:
>
> http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G19838
>
> If I hadn't devised another way of priming my TroyBIlt, I'd be trying it.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248322 is a reply to message #248313] Wed, 23 April 2014 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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JR,

That was my thought when I saw the 0.5" stroke, unusually long for a cheap
linear solenoid.

Ken H.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:40 PM, John Wright wrote:

> ...
> The one that you have researched is a linear style with a .5” stroke.
> I would see no problem using this type and mounting similar to the rotary style
> but used as a linear stroke movement. I guess it would depend on where
> you mount the connecting rod to take advantage of the shorter stroke of the
> linear unit. You would want the chock closed but not under tension from
> the solenoid. Should work!
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248324 is a reply to message #248322] Wed, 23 April 2014 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 20:38

JR,

That was my thought when I saw the 0.5" stroke, unusually long for a cheap
linear solenoid.

Ken H.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:40 PM, John Wright wrote:

> ...
> The one that you have researched is a linear style with a .5" stroke.
> I would see no problem using this type and mounting similar to the rotary style
> but used as a linear stroke movement. I guess it would depend on where
> you mount the connecting rod to take advantage of the shorter stroke of the
> linear unit. You would want the chock closed but not under tension from
> the solenoid. Should work!
>
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There's nothing automatic or temperature sensing about this that I can see. Why not just hook a coat hanger to the choke lever if you are willing to go manual---sort of like setting your ride height manually Smile


Bob de Kruyff
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248339 is a reply to message #248299] Thu, 24 April 2014 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Also look at the front page of this site.

http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/

Is this the water pump in our GMCs?


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248344 is a reply to message #248306] Thu, 24 April 2014 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Bill Wevers wrote:

> What if it was hooked up to the starter solenoid to close the choke while cranking?

That would work as long as the engine was cold. If the engine is hot then you will probably end up with a flooded Onan.

The OEM choke has a thermostatic bi-metallic spring mounted against the exhaust manifold so that it will only choke the engine if two conditions are true: starter energized AND engine is cold.

The solenoid that Ken referred to will be a good option if used in conjunction with a thermostatic sensor. A "button" type normally-closed sensor mounted on a cylinder head might be a good choice for the task.

--Jim Miller
1977 Eleganza II
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248350 is a reply to message #248339] Thu, 24 April 2014 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,
I doubt it, its capacity even at 24 volts is 1 gpm. The SHURflo 2088 pump which was very common in our coaches pumps about 2.8 gpm to 3 gpm at 55 psig.

The direct replacement for the 2088 pump now called a 4008, specs are the same.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-revolution-water-pump/49007

JR Wright
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On Apr 24, 2014, at 4:24 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Also look at the front page of this site.
>
> http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/
>
> Is this the water pump in our GMCs?
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
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> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248365 is a reply to message #248350] Thu, 24 April 2014 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Oh well, It was a nice thought.


powerjon wrote on Thu, 24 April 2014 08:00

Ken,
I doubt it, its capacity even at 24 volts is 1 gpm. The SHURflo 2088 pump which was very common in our coaches pumps about 2.8 gpm to 3 gpm at 55 psig.

The direct replacement for the 2088 pump now called a 4008, specs are the same.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-revolution-water-pump/49007

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan

On Apr 24, 2014, at 4:24 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Also look at the front page of this site.
>
> http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/
>
> Is this the water pump in our GMCs?
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248367 is a reply to message #248299] Thu, 24 April 2014 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My neighbors son was just made VP of power genneration at Cummins. Next time I see him I'll ask about obsolete parts or who was the OEM for the choke.

John Lebetski
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan Choke Solenoid [message #248378 is a reply to message #248367] Thu, 24 April 2014 15:16 Go to previous message
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JohnL455 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2014 11:40

My neighbors son was just made VP of power genneration at Cummins. Next time I see him I'll ask about obsolete parts or who was the OEM for the choke.

This may help:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/onan/p28336-found-a-new-choke-on-e.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/onan/p28336-found-a-new-choke-on-e.html


Bob de Kruyff
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