| 11MM Belts [message #246089] |
Tue, 01 April 2014 18:21  |
tphipps
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Having a great difficulty getting the correct 11MM Belts locally. Even the Dayco that were 11mm last year are now 10mm. This may become a major problem for those of us who still use them.
You might get yourself a spare set before they disappear.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246093 is a reply to message #246090] |
Tue, 01 April 2014 19:01  |
gbarrow2
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Have you seen the recent posts by Rob M., Otterwan, and Dave Mumert regarding belts?
!5/32= 11.9mm- I'll run that for a years before even thinking about serpentine belts. Or use 10mm belts and keep it adjusted.
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246094 is a reply to message #246090] |
Tue, 01 April 2014 19:00 |
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Guys,
This is why I just published the email entitled Engine Belt Part Numbers which listed candidates from V-Belt Supply.com.
Fraction Decimal Metric
15/32 0.4688 11.9063
I have a set of belts in Houston I bought from V-Belt Supply.com. While I didn't check them with an 11mm wrench or check them with a
vernier I did wrap one around a spare pulley and it sat above the OD of the pulley. I showed it to John Sharpe and he noted that was
good.
If you look at their prices the belts are less than $4.50 each!
Chuck,
If you get a moment could you please measure the belt you just got from V-belt supply.com and if you haven't installed it yet could
you take some pictures too?
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Davick
Then what? Should we look into serpentine belt setups? If I remember correctly the issue has to do with the water pump - routing
the belt makes the pump run backwards. Perhaps a short belt for the alternator and power steering pump and another short belt for
the air conditioner that wrap in the same way as our current belts might be doable.
Larry
On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
Having a great difficulty getting the correct 11MM Belts locally. Even the Dayco that were 11mm last year are now 10mm. This may
become a major problem for those of us who still use them.
You might get yourself a spare set before they disappear.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246114 is a reply to message #246112] |
Tue, 01 April 2014 21:06 |
jim kanomata
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I feel that were getting too concerned about the width and not about the sufficient tension.
I was at a industrial seminar for the filter/blower side of our business the other month and the belt rep told us that tension is the key.
I have yet to see the belts on a GMC bottom out unless it was slipping a lot and was worn down.
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
jimk@appliedairfilters.com
http://www.appliedgmc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246202 is a reply to message #246112] |
Wed, 02 April 2014 17:10 |
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G'day,
Here's some additional information about the belts from V-belt Supply.Com:
15620 = $4.82
15570 = $4.82
15450 = $4.82
Subtotal $14.46
Ship $10.77
Total $25.23
I spent 20 minutes on the phone with Harold of V-Belt Supply.com discussing the merits of their belts. If you look at the cross
section of the 15570 belt on their website you will se a number of circles with three small round orange circles in them. The orange
circles represent the Kevlar reinforcement.
http://www.vbeltsupply.com/ecommerce/15570.html
Harold couldn't understand why they would be OK on an automobile and not on a GMC with the same engine. As you can see he confirmed
our conversation below and noted that anyone who wishes to discuss their Kevlar belts should feel free to contact him.
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Hi Rob,
Thank you for your call today. Concerning the 15570 auto-vbelt; that belt does have Kevlar cords which make the belt stronger and
more durable. Kevlar is the same material used in bullet proof vests. We sell thousands upon thousands of these belts to people who
are using them on their cars, trucks and motor homes.
I have been working here for 2 years and I have never gotten a call from a client who said they didn't work properly or this belt
has Kevlar in it and it doesn't run in my pulleys correctly. I would think that if someone is suggesting a Kevlar belt will not
work in a motor home, we would have gotten many calls by now from customers complaining that the belts do not work properly.
All of our belts are Tested and Manufactured to Rubber Manufacturing Standards and are ISO9001 Certified.
If I can be of service please let me know and I will get to work on it right away for you.
Harold Hill
Commercial Sales
V-Belt Global Supply
1409 N. K Ave
Sioux Falls SD 57104
vbeltsupply.com
888-291-5450 Ext 104
Unquote
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: mike foster
Just go to NAPA and buy their premium belts. The ones I just bought cost about $21 each and get tighter as them warm. I'm not
betting the $5 per belt I'd save buying brand 'X' vs. changing a belt on the side of I-70.
I spoke with the guys selling kevlar belts on line, told them what I would use them for and they said..don't use kevlar for the GMC,
they won't last.
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: 11MM Belts [message #246205 is a reply to message #246089] |
Wed, 02 April 2014 17:21 |
rcjordan
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Item Sku Qty Subtotal
15465 Auto V-Belt FFA1&160 2 $9.64
15571 Auto V-Belt FFA1&187 2 $9.64
15630 Auto V-Belt FFA1&203 2 $9.64
15620 Auto V-Belt FFA1&201 2 $9.64
Subtotal $38.56
Shipping & Handling $15.79
Discount (boss2014) -$3.86
Grand Total $50.49
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| Re: 11MM Belts [message #246209 is a reply to message #246205] |
Wed, 02 April 2014 17:28 |
rcjordan
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Amazon:
Goodyear 15574 Gatorback V-Belt 1ea $14.70
Goodyear 15466 Gatorback V-Belt 1ea $13.39
Goodyear 15634 Gatorback V-Belt 1ea $17.84
Item Subtotal: $45.93
Shipping & Handling: $0.00
Total Before Tax: $45.93
Estimated Tax: $3.09
Order Total: $49.02
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246222 is a reply to message #246202] |
Wed, 02 April 2014 19:31 |
GMC.LES
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There are two types of kevlar V-belts. Kevlar wrapped and Kevlar re-inforced. Suitable automotive belts would generally be Kevlar re-inforced. The Kevlar wrapped belts are typically used on self powered yard implements. Both are recommended for more intense service than regular v-belts.
Not going to debate the suitability of either for our GMCs. ;)
Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza 26ft
A work in Progress
On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, "Robert Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
G'day,
Here's some additional information about the belts from V-belt Supply.Com:
15620 = $4.82
15570 = $4.82
15450 = $4.82
Subtotal $14.46
Ship $10.77
Total $25.23
I spent 20 minutes on the phone with Harold of V-Belt Supply.com discussing the merits of their belts. If you look at the cross
section of the 15570 belt on their website you will se a number of circles with three small round orange circles in them. The orange
circles represent the Kevlar reinforcement.
http://www.vbeltsupply.com/ecommerce/15570.html
Harold couldn't understand why they would be OK on an automobile and not on a GMC with the same engine. As you can see he confirmed
our conversation below and noted that anyone who wishes to discuss their Kevlar belts should feel free to contact him.
Quote
Hi Rob,
Thank you for your call today. Concerning the 15570 auto-vbelt; that belt does have Kevlar cords which make the belt stronger and
more durable. Kevlar is the same material used in bullet proof vests. We sell thousands upon thousands of these belts to people who
are using them on their cars, trucks and motor homes.
I have been working here for 2 years and I have never gotten a call from a client who said they didn't work properly or this belt
has Kevlar in it and it doesn't run in my pulleys correctly. I would think that if someone is suggesting a Kevlar belt will not
work in a motor home, we would have gotten many calls by now from customers complaining that the belts do not work properly.
All of our belts are Tested and Manufactured to Rubber Manufacturing Standards and are ISO9001 Certified.
If I can be of service please let me know and I will get to work on it right away for you.
Harold Hill
Commercial Sales
V-Belt Global Supply
1409 N. K Ave
Sioux Falls SD 57104
vbeltsupply.com
888-291-5450 Ext 104
Unquote
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: mike foster
Just go to NAPA and buy their premium belts. The ones I just bought cost about $21 each and get tighter as them warm. I'm not
betting the $5 per belt I'd save buying brand 'X' vs. changing a belt on the side of I-70.
I spoke with the guys selling kevlar belts on line, told them what I would use them for and they said..don't use kevlar for the GMC,
they won't last.
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| Re: 11MM Belts [message #246301 is a reply to message #246089] |
Thu, 03 April 2014 16:13 |
rcjordan
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The Goodyear belts arrived today. All three are 11mm.
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| Re: 11MM Belts [message #246303 is a reply to message #246089] |
Thu, 03 April 2014 17:21 |
Ken Burton
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Try AutoZone. Kelly-Springfield (a Goodyear owned brand) or house brand Duralast (made by Kelly-Springfield). I bought some for another GMCer about 6 months ago that were the correct width.
Still check them in case they also changed.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246305 is a reply to message #246303] |
Thu, 03 April 2014 17:46 |
Ken Henderson
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Alan arrived here at Sun'n'Fun last night after having lost his A/C belt
enroute, fortunately late enought that they didn't need it. Today we
stopped at AutoZone for the specified replacement, 15560. That didn't pass
the 11 mm test I imposed on it. But the 17560 did. He hasn't yet
installed it but I'm confident it will fit. I'll confirm after it's on.
Ken H.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> Try AutoZone. Kelly-Springfield (a Goodyear owned brand) or house brand
> Duralast (made by Kelly-Springfield). I bought some for another GMCer
> about 6 months ago that were the correct width.
>
> Still check them in case they also changed.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246311 is a reply to message #246305] |
Thu, 03 April 2014 18:45 |
Ken Henderson
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More belt info. Especially for Rob, with whom I just got off of the phone.
The A/C belt which Alan lost was NOT one of those from V-Belt Supply; it
was an old, worn, one which had jumped the pulley before. His other two
belts, which are from V-Belt are still in good shape. He didn't remember
and hasn't popped the hood yet, so I can't say whether they are Kevlar
wrapped.
Oh yeah, significant information: The 17560 belt cost $2.99 -- as did
similar sizes.
Ken H.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Alan arrived here at Sun'n'Fun last night after having lost his A/C belt
> enroute, fortunately late enought that they didn't need it. Today we
> stopped at AutoZone for the specified replacement, 15560. That didn't pass
> the 11 mm test I imposed on it. But the 17560 did. He hasn't yet
> installed it but I'm confident it will fit. I'll confirm after it's on.
>
> Ken H.
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> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
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>> Try AutoZone. Kelly-Springfield (a Goodyear owned brand) or house brand
>> Duralast (made by Kelly-Springfield). I bought some for another GMCer
>> about 6 months ago that were the correct width.
>>
>> Still check them in case they also changed.
>> --
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>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 11MM Belts [message #246313 is a reply to message #246311] |
Thu, 03 April 2014 18:55 |
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Ken,
The V-BeltSupply.com belts I have in the USA aren't Kevlar wrapped they have Kevlar bands internally.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
More belt info. Especially for Rob, with whom I just got off of the phone.
The A/C belt which Alan lost was NOT one of those from V-Belt Supply; it
was an old, worn, one which had jumped the pulley before. His other two
belts, which are from V-Belt are still in good shape. He didn't remember
and hasn't popped the hood yet, so I can't say whether they are Kevlar
wrapped.
Oh yeah, significant information: The 17560 belt cost $2.99 -- as did
similar sizes.
Ken H.
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: 11MM Belts [message #246384 is a reply to message #246089] |
Fri, 04 April 2014 12:56 |
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Five belts from Vbeltsuppy arrived today. All were marked 29/64" on the sleeve and four were the 11mm we seek. However, one of the two #15465s was 10mm. On the belt itself, the incorrect one is stamped "C ag 51" while the proper one is stamped "H cf 51" --so perhaps it is just a mix-up and not a downsizing.
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