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Wed, 19 March 2014 20:13  |
lqqkatjon
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Looking at the dometic 310. seems to be a nice china toilet for the price. I actually am kicking myself for letting a new one off craigslist go to a friend. But they had zero toilet, and they are money strapped and it is their first motorhome.
is there any difference in the dometic vs. sealand? they look the same.
what does one look for in a toilet. other then china?
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: best toilet [message #244311 is a reply to message #244307] |
Wed, 19 March 2014 20:22  |
corleyw
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| lqqkatjon wrote on Wed, 19 March 2014 17:13 |
what does one look for in a toilet. other then china?
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Do you mean before you use it or after. (The devil made me say that.)
The valve mechanism is about the only thing that will give you trouble, so a fool proof valve setup is vital. Ball valve is better than a slide valve. Next, look at the height. Most of us don't care for a really low one.
Mine is an older Aqua-Magic (I think), that has never given any trouble at all, seals tight (holds water in it after a flush), and the water sweeps the whole thing well. It came with a spray hose for cleaning, but that is useless. Mine is great for sittin' and thinkin'.
Corley
'76 Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] best toilet [message #244319 is a reply to message #244307] |
Wed, 19 March 2014 20:48 |
Rob
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Mine has a nearly new Dometic 310. The biggest flaw IMO - the "plug-in valve" has a frost sight near the water entry, that will dump water all over the floor when it lets go.
How do I know? At some point over the winter - the one in my coach cracked near the frost sight and when the water is turned on, it pumped water ALL over the floor. After a while, the seller realized things were getting wet - but it was *very* wet by then. It wasn't until I tried the pump again and investigated, that I realized where the water was coming from. I don't know if it's a weak by the valve or it actually did freeze (unlikely according to the seller).
If you go the Dometic's manual - there is a section with pictures reminding you that it isn't covered by the warranty.
A bad design in my books. I'll be carrying a spare valve from now on - "just in case".
Rob
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
Victoria, BC
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On 2014-03-19, at 6:13 PM, Jon Roche wrote:
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> Looking at the dometic 310. seems to be a nice china toilet for the price. I actually am kicking myself for letting a new one off craigslist go to a friend. But they had zero toilet, and they are money strapped and it is their first motorhome.
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> is there any difference in the dometic vs. sealand? they look the same.
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> what does one look for in a toilet. other then china?
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> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: best toilet [message #244325 is a reply to message #244307] |
Wed, 19 March 2014 20:58 |
lqqkatjon
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I seen that about the freezing valve. but i would think that you could have that on anything that freezes. pipes, valves, whatever will crack and leak water all over.
It looks like if you winterize as I do, with rv antifreeze. you should not have to worry about that valve letting go. the winterizing step of draining toilet down was way too many steps.
I am changing out the black tank, so I will have the toilet out, so that is why I was thinking of changing to a new toilet. @$150 or less, it seems like a nice toilet. and I hear lots of compliments about a china toilet for the women folk. I have to do a little keeping up with the times, because we have a few friends with some newer campers, and I have to make sure the wife understands how much better the gmc is built.
seems like an easy upgrade, and get alot for the extra $150 on this project.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: best toilet [message #244344 is a reply to message #244307] |
Wed, 19 March 2014 22:19 |
Carl S.
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Jon,
I replaced the Thetford Recirc toilet with a Sealand 510 after the first summer we owned the coach. I think Sealand was bought by Dometic and the 310 is similar to the Sealand we have. It has been a very good improvement. I have had to replace the flush cartridge one time (last summer) because it started to leak water into the bowl. Otherwise, no issues. The 'bone' color was almost a perfect match for the wet bath.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] best toilet [message #244345 is a reply to message #244325] |
Wed, 19 March 2014 22:17 |
Rob
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I was worried that the valve cracked due to the tension on the supply line (or the supply line "snap" that is mentioned with this toilet) rather than freezing.
Being in the "Great White North" (albeit a very green part of it) - I'll be winterizing with anti-freeze. But the seller was in the south coast of Oregon, apparently stored inside.
One place here wanted close to $100 for the valve! Luckily I found a place a block a way that sold it for $40.
My wife likes the idea of the china toilet - but I'll be keeping my eye on that valve...
Rob
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
Victoria, BC
gmc@thebaileys.ca
On 2014-03-19, at 6:58 PM, Jon Roche wrote:
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> I seen that about the freezing valve. but i would think that you could have that on anything that freezes. pipes, valves, whatever will crack and leak water all over.
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> It looks like if you winterize as I do, with rv antifreeze. you should not have to worry about that valve letting go. the winterizing step of draining toilet down was way too many steps.
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> I am changing out the black tank, so I will have the toilet out, so that is why I was thinking of changing to a new toilet. @$150 or less, it seems like a nice toilet. and I hear lots of compliments about a china toilet for the women folk. I have to do a little keeping up with the times, because we have a few friends with some newer campers, and I have to make sure the wife understands how much better the gmc is built.
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> seems like an easy upgrade, and get alot for the extra $150 on this project.
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> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] best toilet [message #244348 is a reply to message #244346] |
Wed, 19 March 2014 22:24 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Gary Berry wrote on Wed, 19 March 2014 21:19 |
Hey Rob;
I don't know if it will work on your toilet, but on all of the toilets
we have had in our 2 GMCs and the SOB, if you lift up on the foot valve it
lets water in without opening the ball valve. Anyone else have a toilet
that works like this?
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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Yes, my Sealand works that way. It is a quality unit that also has the hand spritzer for those "difficult" jobs 
I see that Dometic has the identical unit. Did they buy Sealand?
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: best toilet [message #244400 is a reply to message #244307] |
Thu, 20 March 2014 10:23 |
Chris Tyler
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They should have #1 and #2 settings to simplify things LOL
The spray nozzle can be added to any setup, and are very handy.
Ceramic holds up better and is easier to clean. Ball valve is more reliable.
I really used to hate toilet jobs when I was a service tech. Slide valves especially.
With that said I have currently a functional plastic slide valve unit. When it goes south, guess what I will be instaling? And at almost 6'8", it will be a tall model.
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| Re: best toilet [message #244409 is a reply to message #244356] |
Thu, 20 March 2014 12:27 |
Carl S.
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| WildBill wrote on Wed, 19 March 2014 21:04 |
Bought my wife a Dometec ceramic for Valentines day, she loves it and can't wait to try it. My neighbour was envious too
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How Romantic!!!  Ours was a birthday present for MY wife. 
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: best toilet [message #244411 is a reply to message #244307] |
Thu, 20 March 2014 12:49 |
lqqkatjon
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my wife's birthday is in December. But our anniversary is April fools day. I think I have found my gift!
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: best toilet [message #244419 is a reply to message #244411] |
Thu, 20 March 2014 13:47 |
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| lqqkatjon wrote on Thu, 20 March 2014 10:49 |
my wife's birthday is in December. But our anniversary is April fools day. I think I have found my gift!
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Sounds perfect! 
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] best toilet [message #244429 is a reply to message #244409] |
Thu, 20 March 2014 15:33 |
Rob
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I was going to comment on that as well - until I recalled that my wife received zilch for Valentines Day...
Hard to say if she would consider a new toilet better or worse than nothing!
Rob
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
Victoria, BC
gmc@thebaileys.ca
On 2014-03-20, at 10:27 AM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
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> WildBill wrote on Wed, 19 March 2014 21:04
>> Bought my wife a Dometec ceramic for Valentines day, she loves it and can't wait to try it. My neighbour was envious too
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> How Romantic!!! :twisted: Ours was a birthday present for MY wife. :roll:
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> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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