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| Re: Mouse Trap That Works [message #243704 is a reply to message #243692] |
Sat, 15 March 2014 22:40   |
kerry pinkerton
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I love it...wonder if I can adapt that idea for squirrels. I hate squirrels.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: Mouse Trap That Works [message #243715 is a reply to message #243692] |
Sun, 16 March 2014 02:12 |
appie
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poor mice !
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
Denmark
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| Re: Mouse Trap That Works [message #243720 is a reply to message #243692] |
Sun, 16 March 2014 07:17 |
mickey szilagyi
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We were determined to prevent mice from getting into our coach rather than catching them inside. We plugged as many holes as we could find but mice were still getting in somewhere. This winter we started replacing the black tank and pulled it down in the late fall. We had to remove the toilet in the process. We discovered there was adequate space between the black tank and the bottom of the coach for mice to squeeze between them and get to the access point where the toilet drain dumps into the tank. Right at that point there was a large gap where mice were freely getting up into the coach underneath the shower floor and from there they had access to the entire coach interior. In fact, there was a plastic flange around the pipe that had been chewed almost completely out. We're not sure if the plastic flange was a PO fix or was OEM but it didn't work keeping mice out. We temporarily plugged that area until we get the new tank installed. We will install an aluminum flange around the new pipe that dumps into the new tank. We'll have to make the flange in two overlapping pieces to get it down into the hole from inside the coach. We checked the other two holes through which the other two drains come down into the tank. They had plastic flanges around the pipes as well but were still in tact but we are going to put aluminum flanges around them as well before installing the new tank.
We have mouse traps in 4 places inside the coach as we did last year. We caught a number of mice all last winter but so far this winter not one since we plugged the above large access. We also have one electronic rodent gizmo plugged in under the coach between the rear wheels. We also had it last winter and mice were still getting in. So the jury is still out on it's effectiveness.
From our experience so far, the best way to plug the hole around the toilet drain is to remove the toilet and flange. Once they are out you can get in and secure that area to keep mice out.
So far so good.
Side note: We started installing the new black tank yesterday. We got it from Cinnabar, $404.25 plus MI tax and shipping. Since we're in Lansing, MI we drove up and got it to save some on shipping ($130ish). We have no experience at all with the other replacement tanks available for a 1977 Kingsley single tank system but this new tank is awesome. It's heavy duty, is made specifically for the GMC, fits exactly where it's supposed to go, has all the nooks and crannies for the brake lines, slide valve, sending unit, support brackets, and even the shower trap dimple that protrudes down under the coach. It comes with the slide valve hole at the rear with four brass threaded holes for the slide valve mounting bolts. The sending unit hole is also pre cut and ready for a new sending unit. It also comes with the three grommets for the three access holes that have to be drilled in the top of the tank. The new tank is bigger than the old tank, more capacity we're told. It takes up all the available space between the side and cross beams. Because of the original plumbing we're having to improvise in various ways to get the drain pipes into the grommets but we think we have that figured out. FWIW.
Mickey
1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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| Re: Mouse Trap That Works [message #243722 is a reply to message #243692] |
Sun, 16 March 2014 08:00 |
Ultravan Owners
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Mice can get through an opening that is only 1/4".
Because their bones are not like our they are able to squeze through very tight places.
Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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| Re: Mouse Trap That Works [message #243857 is a reply to message #243720] |
Sun, 16 March 2014 20:24 |
mikethebike
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We found the same big hole under the toilet and used 'GreatStuff' insulation for doors/windows that does not set up hard. We also sealed around the sewer pipes under the port side closet. So far, so good. Cheyenne pepper works also but you have to reapply each winter.
| mickey szilagyi wrote on Sun, 16 March 2014 07:17 |
We were determined to prevent mice from getting into our coach rather than catching them inside. We plugged as many holes as we could find but mice were still getting in somewhere. This winter we started replacing the black tank and pulled it down in the late fall. We had to remove the toilet in the process. We discovered there was adequate space between the black tank and the bottom of the coach for mice to squeeze between them and get to the access point where the toilet drain dumps into the tank. Right at that point there was a large gap where mice were freely getting up into the coach underneath the shower floor and from there they had access to the entire coach interior. In fact, there was a plastic flange around the pipe that had been chewed almost completely out. We're not sure if the plastic flange was a PO fix or was OEM but it didn't work keeping mice out. We temporarily plugged that area until we get the new tank installed. We will install an aluminum flange around the new pipe that dumps into the new tank. We'll have to make the flange in two overlapping pieces to get it down into the hole from inside the coach. We checked the other two holes through which the other two drains come down into the tank. They had plastic flanges around the pipes as well but were still in tact but we are going to put aluminum flanges around them as well before installing the new tank.
We have mouse traps in 4 places inside the coach as we did last year. We caught a number of mice all last winter but so far this winter not one since we plugged the above large access. We also have one electronic rodent gizmo plugged in under the coach between the rear wheels. We also had it last winter and mice were still getting in. So the jury is still out on it's effectiveness.
From our experience so far, the best way to plug the hole around the toilet drain is to remove the toilet and flange. Once they are out you can get in and secure that area to keep mice out.
So far so good.
Side note: We started installing the new black tank yesterday. We got it from Cinnabar, $404.25 plus MI tax and shipping. Since we're in Lansing, MI we drove up and got it to save some on shipping ($130ish). We have no experience at all with the other replacement tanks available for a 1977 Kingsley single tank system but this new tank is awesome. It's heavy duty, is made specifically for the GMC, fits exactly where it's supposed to go, has all the nooks and crannies for the brake lines, slide valve, sending unit, support brackets, and even the shower trap dimple that protrudes down under the coach. It comes with the slide valve hole at the rear with four brass threaded holes for the slide valve mounting bolts. The sending unit hole is also pre cut and ready for a new sending unit. It also comes with the three grommets for the three access holes that have to be drilled in the top of the tank. The new tank is bigger than the old tank, more capacity we're told. It takes up all the available space between the side and cross beams. Because of the original plumbing we're having to improvise in various ways to get the drain pipes into the grommets but we think we have that figured out. FWIW.
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