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Re: [GMCnet] 16 " steel wheels with one ton conversion [message #243318 is a reply to message #243263] |
Thu, 13 March 2014 10:23 |
Ultravan Owners
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BobDunahugh wrote on Thu, 13 March 2014 01:16 | Tony. I've used these rims. They came on GM dully one tons from 1983 to I know 1987 for sure. That same rim was used later. But I don't remember how much longer. Any wheel supplier can tell you. Let us know. Bob Dunahugh GMCMI Member78 Royale
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Bob, it is odd that you said they fit and yet Dave posted the following.
I sure hate to order new rims, have them shipped to CA and get there to find out then that they will not work.
Maybe I should just purchase the spacer kit and be done with it all.
But then again - what if I were to put disc brakes on the rear when I make my trailer?
Will I have the same problem as the front or will it be worse?
dpottebaum wrote on Wed, 12 March 2014 20:11 | I just test fit the rim on a parts coach with original equipment up front. The rim collided with the ears on the caliper where the bolts attach the caliper to the knuckle. I'm no engineer, but I don't think shaving enough off to eliminate the collision is a good idea....
I did go re test it on my driver coach and confirmed again that is spins without collision using the one ton system I bought from Manny. There is approx. 1/8" clearance which the wheel guys at MW tell me is enough even with flexing under load. I hope that's the case. It will be a while before I put rubber on the rims to test under load.
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Tony (Ontario Canada) Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm. Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage. Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
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Re: [GMCnet] 16 " steel wheels with one ton conversion [message #243373 is a reply to message #243318] |
Thu, 13 March 2014 17:03 |
mojoe
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For what its worth and my 2 cents. I am thinking Bob used rims that came off of a early to late 80's Chevy on his GMC..
And the new ones noted seem to be able to be used on several years with slight mods like with different lug nuts.
In my search for rims I noticed that early 90's rims where slightly different.
Joe Kemenczky..
1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
"When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not." - Mark Twain.
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Re: [GMCnet] 16 " steel wheels with one ton conversion [message #243379 is a reply to message #243373] |
Thu, 13 March 2014 17:57 |
James Hupy
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Somewhere around about mid year 1994 Chev, GMC, and Dodge went to Metric
Specs on their products. Some people say that FORD did earlier, some people
say that FORD did later. It does not matter when. the All magnificient
Department of Transportation, or D.O.T. for short, mandated that all steel
wheels made to metric specs need to be clearly marked by stamping the word
METRIC onto the wheel. I have found that USUALLY the marks are on the
inside of the rim portion of the wheel and almost always partially obscured
by dirt and a sealant that is supposed to prevent water migration into the
junction between the rim and wheel center. There is NO interference
problems on the 4 rear hubs with the correct shaped wheels. The hole in the
center is the correct diameter for the hub centering flange.
Where interference is SOMETIMES found is on the front end. The
interference point is between the disc brake caliper and the back side of
the wheel. If new thick brake pads are fitted along with a new brake rotor,
there will be clearance problems. If the rotors have been turned and/or the
pads are partially worn, the 16" steel wheels MIGHT clear. It turns into a
"cut and try" install. There is a work around for those who insist upon
using steel wheels on the front. Hub extenders and wheel spacers just thick
enough to give clearance will work. If the spacers need to be thicker than
ABOUT 1/4" give or take, then longer wheel studs SHOULD BE USED. This
requires disassembly of the hubs and knuckles, removal of the wheel
bearings with special tools, unbolting the rotors, driving out the short
studs and pressing in new longer ones. 16 are required. They are about
$3.00 + or - each. The wheel spacers cost as well as the hub extenders. If
you figure labor on R & R the hubs, knuckles, bearings, rotors, and
studs,it eats up the savings of the less expensive steel wheels quickly. It
is possible to do, just not easy or cheap to do it.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403 (presently with 16" steel wheels all around, but soon to
change to Eagle Alloy along with a 1 ton conversion, 6 wheel disc brakes
and Reaction Arm rear suspension with rear sway bars)
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Joe Kemenczky <Odie75@carolina.rr.com>wrote:
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> For what its worth and my 2 cents. I am thinking Bob used rims that came
> off of a early to late 80's Chevy on his GMC..
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> And the new ones noted seem to be able to be used on several years with
> slight mods like with different lug nuts.
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> In my search for rims I noticed that early 90's rims where slightly
> different.
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> Joe Kemenczky..
> 1975 Eleganza ll " Odie " 75,000 miles..
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> "When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or
> not." - Mark Twain.
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