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Mon, 24 February 2014 06:17  |
Jim Bounds
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What sort of economy are you looking for? Buy any new actual motorhome, not a van loaded heavy with enough interior room for Gigit, your mileage will be lless than 10 mpg. Pusher diesel will require a mortgage and any repairs not under some warranty will melt your charge card! The GMC motorhome was thrown into a wind tunnel to find it has a slick shape to 58 mph which means I don't care what it is, nothing will tet better mileage at 60, mileage is a factor of drag not hp or even torque. The less air you push the more effective the drive train..... period! If you talk size, cost, maintenance cost, comfort and yes style good luck finding anything "better". The GMC is the cheapest and best performance toy in the box! The laws of physics don't change, the design of the GMC was way to perfect a match of engineering and design were and still are way ahead of the curve. You can't pull weight cheap unless you use a locomotive, we are the leader, that's why we are still here keeping these beautiful pieces of equipement running! The GMC is the real deal. Opinions may vary but you can't break the laws of physics.
Jim Bounds
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From: Chris Orr <c000rr@gmail.com>
Date: 02/24/2014 5:02 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a
GMCMotorhome?
Thanks for your advice. I don't own one yet, and probably never will
because of the poor mileage. Still what a cool vehicle. I'll be looking
at something with a modern mileage economy instead.
On 2/24/2014 1:43 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
> and that's the truuuttttthhhh.
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> we have spent 20 years, doing this stuff, and been down these roads, over,
> and over...
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> so do it, if you like it, but for the right reasons :>)
> erf
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> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:18 PM, gene barrow <barrowgene@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Chris,
>> Don't mean to rain on your parade, but it doesn't matter which diesel
>> engine you install or what your driving style is it will take forever to
>> offset the acquisition and installation cost for the diesel with fuel cost
>> savings.
>> So if your idea is save money by increasing mpg- you can't get there from
>> here. But, if you like to change things just because you can, then then
>> enjoy yourself.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gene Barrow
>> Lake Almanor, Ca.
>> 1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a GMCMotorhome? [message #241095 is a reply to message #241094] |
Mon, 24 February 2014 06:19  |
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> What sort of economy are you looking for? Buy any new actual motorhome, not a van loaded heavy with enough interior room for Gigit, your mileage will be lless than 10 mpg. Pusher diesel will require a mortgage and any repairs not under some warranty will melt your charge card! The GMC motorhome was thrown into a wind tunnel to find it has a slick shape to 58 mph which means I don't care what it is, nothing will tet better mileage at 60, mileage is a factor of drag not hp or even torque. The less air you push the more effective the drive train..... period! If you talk size, cost, maintenance cost, comfort and yes style good luck finding anything "better". The GMC is the cheapest and best performance toy in the box! The laws of physics don't change, the design of the GMC was way to perfect a match of engineering and design were and still are way ahead of the curve. You can't pull weight cheap unless you use a locomotive, we are the leader, that's why we are still here
keeping these beautiful pieces of equipement running! The GMC is the real deal. Opinions may vary but you can't break the laws of physics.
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| Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a GMCMotorhome? [message #241133 is a reply to message #241094] |
Mon, 24 February 2014 13:26 |
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Unless your name is BOB GLIDDEN!!
I think he had his own private set of those things!
| Jim Bounds wrote on Mon, 24 February 2014 06:17 |
The laws of physics don't change. Opinions may vary but you can't break the laws of physics.
Jim Bounds
-------- Original message --------
From: Chris Orr <c000rr@gmail.com>
Date: 02/24/2014 5:02 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a GMCMotorhome?
Thanks for your advice. I don't own one yet, and probably never will
because of the poor mileage. Still what a cool vehicle. I'll be looking
at something with a modern mileage economy instead.
On 2/24/2014 1:43 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
> and that's the truuuttttthhhh.
>
> we have spent 20 years, doing this stuff, and been down these roads, over,
> and over...
>
> so do it, if you like it, but for the right reasons :>)
> erf
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:18 PM, gene barrow <barrowgene@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Chris,
>> Don't mean to rain on your parade, but it doesn't matter which diesel
>> engine you install or what your driving style is it will take forever to
>> offset the acquisition and installation cost for the diesel with fuel cost
>> savings.
>> So if your idea is save money by increasing mpg- you can't get there from
>> here. But, if you like to change things just because you can, then then
>> enjoy yourself.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gene Barrow
>> Lake Almanor, Ca.
>> 1976 Palm Beach
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a GMCMotorhome? [message #241185 is a reply to message #241094] |
Mon, 24 February 2014 18:21 |
Chris Orr
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No rocket science, GMC weighs 12,000lbs, Vixen 6,000. Vixen is more
aerodynamic. The gas model gets more than twice the distance on a gallon
of gas, diesel gets almost 3 times. No need to redefine relativity! :)
On 2/24/2014 4:17 AM, gmccoop wrote:
> What sort of economy are you looking for? Buy any new actual motorhome, not a van loaded heavy with enough interior room for Gigit, your mileage will be lless than 10 mpg. Pusher diesel will require a mortgage and any repairs not under some warranty will melt your charge card! The GMC motorhome was thrown into a wind tunnel to find it has a slick shape to 58 mph which means I don't care what it is, nothing will tet better mileage at 60, mileage is a factor of drag not hp or even torque. The less air you push the more effective the drive train..... period! If you talk size, cost, maintenance cost, comfort and yes style good luck finding anything "better". The GMC is the cheapest and best performance toy in the box! The laws of physics don't change, the design of the GMC was way to perfect a match of engineering and design were and still are way ahead of the curve. You can't pull weight cheap unless you use a locomotive, we are the leader, that's why we are still here
keeping these beautiful pieces of equipement running! The GMC is the real deal. Opinions may vary but you can't break the laws of physics.
>
> Jim Bounds
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Chris Orr <c000rr@gmail.com>
> Date: 02/24/2014 5:02 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a
> GMCMotorhome?
>
> Thanks for your advice. I don't own one yet, and probably never will
> because of the poor mileage. Still what a cool vehicle. I'll be looking
> at something with a modern mileage economy instead.
>
> On 2/24/2014 1:43 AM, gene Fisher wrote:
>> and that's the truuuttttthhhh.
>>
>> we have spent 20 years, doing this stuff, and been down these roads, over,
>> and over...
>>
>> so do it, if you like it, but for the right reasons :>)
>> erf
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:18 PM, gene barrow <barrowgene@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>> Don't mean to rain on your parade, but it doesn't matter which diesel
>>> engine you install or what your driving style is it will take forever to
>>> offset the acquisition and installation cost for the diesel with fuel cost
>>> savings.
>>> So if your idea is save money by increasing mpg- you can't get there from
>>> here. But, if you like to change things just because you can, then then
>>> enjoy yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gene Barrow
>>> Lake Almanor, Ca.
>>> 1976 Palm Beach
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a GMCMotorhome? [message #241198 is a reply to message #241140] |
Mon, 24 February 2014 18:53 |
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Thanks Sigmund,
I'm all for hybrid and electric vehicles. I've never been comfortable
with the 20% efficiency of a combustion engine myself- they're a symbol
of man's ego in forfeiting earth's environment and his decendants'
future, to move around at any cost.
Nikola Tesla invented the most innovative electrical devices such as AC
current, the brushless motor, electrical transmission over the air,
which were well ahead of their time, but obtuse thinking sided with
combustion technology over electrical. If not for this thinking,
electrical technology and computer technology would have developed well
before the 80s and been in every vehicle many decades earlier. Perhaps
we wouldn't have been stupid enough to have Chernobyl and now Fukushima
which threatens the western North American coast where I live, due to
ocean gyrations and wind patterns distributing radioactive materials
everywhere with 50,000+ yr half lives!
The GMC is a great vehicle, but it has a gas-guzzler carburated engine.
Lets hope that one day soon, we will be able to buy reliable kits to
convert all these dinosaur combustion vehicles to some hybrid power
systems everywhere, so we can clear the air and leave pristineness for
the children and grandchildren, rather than face the blame for our
stupidity!
Chris.
On 2/24/2014 12:45 PM, Sigmund Frankenfelter wrote:
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> I am at a little over 10. None of us like that and it's why there is this ongoing search for a modern engine and/or throttle body fuel injection. I rigged up an air scoop, mounted facing front at the grill. I figure there is not much more that can be done really inexpensively.
>
> I suppose that some of us are also waiting for hybrid technology to make its way into motorhomes. Those fellows in, I think< Detroit who are developing a system that is contained inside the wheels (not including the batteries) come to mind. There may be enough room underneath to fit some modern batteries in there
>
> The shape of our coaches is pretty modern, judging by the number of its features that have been incorporated by other motorhome brands. They are still worth keeping.
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| Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a GMCMotorhome? [message #241201 is a reply to message #241094] |
Mon, 24 February 2014 19:03 |
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Hybrid tech might improve economy in stop and go city traffic. Not in a continuous road load condition. For comparison a larger Hybrid available is the Tahoe. It gets about 20 highway they say. The non Hybrid version, well it gets about 20 highway they say. Most MH driving is not city commute but highway.
John Lebetski
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| Re: [GMCnet] What is the best fuel economy obtainable from a GMCMotorhome? [message #241221 is a reply to message #241214] |
Mon, 24 February 2014 19:41 |
Chris Orr
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True NA is behind in a lot tech...
On 2/24/2014 5:30 PM, Bill Dolinsky wrote:
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> I get 23mpg on occasion with my 99 suburban that has 320000 km, 18 the norm. My buddy has a $52000 hybrid hylander and is getting 26 mpg. We need to clean up the diesel so we can bring European technology to North America. I rented a c class Mercedes last time I was in France and I didn't know it was a diesel when we first got in it. No diesel noise on start up, no stink , went like a bat out of heck and didn't want me to put fuel in the tank. Thought diesels in cars were stupid before that experience.
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