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Leaking front oil seal [message #240893] Sat, 22 February 2014 18:19 Go to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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When I drove down to Ken Henderson's this week, before I even got out of the coach he said, "You're not going to like this."

Oil everywhere. We started wiping and investigating and pretty much narrowed it down to the front of the engine but couldn't nail it down.

It was only about a half quart low and it is a 'new' leak. The last time I drove it, there was no leaks and no puddles under the coach. But it dripped all over Ken's pit.

Drove home and it's about a half quart low so I had to resolve it. Did the talcum powder thing and saw that it was coming from somewhere above the front motor mount but couldn't tell and nothing up there can be addressed without lifting the front of the engine and pulling the motor mount and plate so out it came.

Turns out to be the front seal on the new engine, I hung the engine from the engine lift and ran it and watched the oil weap out9 &&*^%$##&. Not a huge deal but the power steering pump is leaking also and changing it is a pita!. Anyway a new seal and a new harmonic balancer will be in tomorrow morning. The old balancer had some surface issues which is what probably ate the oil seal. A new balancer is only $75ish at Advance Auto Parts...and since my son is the manager, I get to use his discount.

I've got a ton to do before we leave for GMCMI on the 18th and didn't need this. Oh well.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Leaking front oil seal [message #240897 is a reply to message #240893] Sat, 22 February 2014 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kingd is currently offline  kingd   Canada
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Is it the front seal that is available in a high temperature version more suitable to the oi ltemp in an RV engineering ne ????

DAVE KING lurker, wannabe Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Re: Leaking front oil seal [message #240898 is a reply to message #240893] Sat, 22 February 2014 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WildBill   Canada
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Never noticed hi temp versions but sounds good to me. Speedy sleeve or new harmonic balancer might be in order too. Don't know what's on the market for olds hb's though.
Re: [GMCnet] Leaking front oil seal [message #240905 is a reply to message #240893] Sat, 22 February 2014 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Kerry,

See if your son can get you one of these:

There is a high temp seal available:

Manufacturer: Chicago Rawhide / SKF
Part Number: 19923

If you want to see the whole thread log on to the forum and search gmc.mybirdfeeder.net for: Hi-Temperature Crankshaft Seal.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton

When I drove down to Ken Henderson's this week, before I even got out of the coach he said, "You're not going to like this."

Oil everywhere. We started wiping and investigating and pretty much narrowed it down to the front of the engine but couldn't nail
it down.

It was only about a half quart low and it is a 'new' leak. The last time I drove it, there was no leaks and no puddles under the
coach. But it dripped all over Ken's pit.

Drove home and it's about a half quart low so I had to resolve it. Did the talcum powder thing and saw that it was coming from
somewhere above the front motor mount but couldn't tell and nothing up there can be addressed without lifting the front of the
engine and pulling the motor mount and plate so out it came.

Turns out to be the front seal on the new engine, I hung the engine from the engine lift and ran it and watched the oil weap out9
&&*^%$##&. Not a huge deal but the power steering pump is leaking also and changing it is a pita!. Anyway a new seal and a new
harmonic balancer will be in tomorrow morning. The old balancer had some surface issues which is what probably ate the oil seal. A
new balancer is only $75ish at Advance Auto Parts...and since my son is the manager, I get to use his discount.

I've got a ton to do before we leave for GMCMI on the 18th and didn't need this. Oh well.
--
Kerry

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Leaking front oil seal [message #240907 is a reply to message #240905] Sat, 22 February 2014 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loffen is currently offline  Loffen   Norway
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Oh well, it could have been the reat seal.. been there done that..

1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway
Re: Leaking front oil seal [message #240909 is a reply to message #240893] Sat, 22 February 2014 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Best place to have a problem is at home.
Also Chicago rawhide is good stuff in my experience. Replaced the noisy Chinese front hubs on my XJ with Chicago Rawhide. USA ones and they are staying nice and quiet.


John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: Leaking front oil seal [message #240916 is a reply to message #240893] Sat, 22 February 2014 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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Kerry,

Before you install the new front crank seal, put some grease on it center seal part, but not the outside part.



Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.
Re: Leaking front oil seal [message #240934 is a reply to message #240893] Sun, 23 February 2014 00:36 Go to previous message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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The stock front seal is good to 250 degrees the hi temp one is good to 350 the stock one lasted around 1000 miles on my new motor the high temp one I replaced it with doesn't leak.

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
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