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| TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239411] |
Mon, 10 February 2014 12:51  |
pyolet
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Anyone know of a source for replacement TH425 dipstick?...the stick, not the tube. Any alternative sticks that'll work once calibrated, shortened, and/or vented? Interweb searches yield nothing. Thanks in advance.
Woody.
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| Re: TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239412 is a reply to message #239411] |
Mon, 10 February 2014 12:58  |
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| pyolet wrote on Mon, 10 February 2014 12:51 |
Anyone know of a source for replacement TH425 dipstick?...the stick, not the tube. Any alternative sticks that'll work once calibrated, shortened, and/or vented? Interweb searches yield nothing. Thanks in advance.
Woody.
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Woody
I got a good used replacement from JimK at Applied GMC.
Or you can have the old one brazed.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239414 is a reply to message #239411] |
Mon, 10 February 2014 13:00 |
Ken Burton
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I think Jim K. or Dick Paterson has them. When mine broke years ago near the top, I took the two pieces and riveted a small steel or aluminum piece along the side of the break. It works fine for me.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239431 is a reply to message #239411] |
Mon, 10 February 2014 15:43 |
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Woody,
Contact JimK and if you're feeling a bit flush you could spring for one of these:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/715
Makes it possible to check the transmission fluid without removing the engine hatch.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Woody
Anyone know of a source for replacement TH425 dipstick?...the stick, not the tube. Any alternative sticks that'll work once
calibrated, shortened, and/or vented? Interweb searches yield nothing. Thanks in advance.
Woody.
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239447 is a reply to message #239431] |
Mon, 10 February 2014 17:36 |
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This one is offered by another of our GMC suppliers.
<http://www.golbymotorcorp.com/parts-catalog/parts-catalog/198/24/drivetrain/transmission/dipstick-tube-kit-remote-fill-GMC%20MOTORHOME%20PARTS.html>
or
http://tinyurl.com/k5owtak
Both are very good products
J.R. Wright
30' Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Location in Tucson
On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Woody,
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> Contact JimK and if you're feeling a bit flush you could spring for one of these:
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> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/715
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> Makes it possible to check the transmission fluid without removing the engine hatch.
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Woody
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> Anyone know of a source for replacement TH425 dipstick?...the stick, not the tube. Any alternative sticks that'll work once
> calibrated, shortened, and/or vented? Interweb searches yield nothing. Thanks in advance.
>
> Woody.
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| Re: TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239518 is a reply to message #239456] |
Tue, 11 February 2014 09:34 |
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You can Google or go to either SUMMIT or JEGS and look for products made by LOKAR. These guys are street-rodders who make exceptional high quality products for most every application you can think of.
Lokar part number is td35040036
I have one of their transmission dip-sticks. S/S-teflon lined flexible with a 'vinyl' gauge.
They are not inexpensive. You will not be disappointed in the product. It locates under the drivers side hood next to the radiator and it allows you to top off from there.
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239540 is a reply to message #239518] |
Tue, 11 February 2014 12:56 |
Ken Henderson
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I misread the request and went looking for this, which I've hidden in a 77
photo "Miscellaneous" folder:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-gmc-stuff/p3935.html
While it's specifically an engine oil dipstick replacement, perhaps it will
be useful to someone.
Not clear in the description is that the Lexan handle is drilled to fit
over the outside of the tube, much like the OEM stick, to prevent water
entry.
A similar dipstick could easily be made for the transmission also, but the
handle material would necessarily be much thicker.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, mike foster wrote:
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> You can Google or go to either SUMMIT of JEGS and look for products made
> by LOKAR. These guys are street-rodders who make exceptional high quality
> products for most every application you can think of.
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> I have one of their transmission dip-sticks. S/S-teflon lined flexible
> with a 'vinyl' gauge.
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> They are not inexpensive. You will not be disappointed in the product.
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239658 is a reply to message #239626] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 08:11 |
Ken Henderson
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Some of you may want to consider modifying your TH-425 dipstick for
up-front access. It's really pretty simple:
At the 30* bend where the tube turns vertical, drill a 3/8" hole on the
side toward the front of the coach. Distort the hole slightly by inserting
a bolt and "aiming" it toward the planned access location up front. Now
insert a length of 3/8" OD tubing from the desired front access location
into the new hole (the 3/8" need not reach the front; it can be spliced,
like the OEM engine dipstick tube) Use a marker to scribe around the 3/8"
tube at its entry into the dipstick tube. Now remove both tubes to the
workbench.
Cut the 3/8" tube to the marker line and braze it into the dipstick tube,
with no more than 1/32" or so protruding inside. Try to keep the 3/8"
oriented like it was when fitted, but a slight curve when installed won't
matter. Reinstall the new assembly. If the new tube doesn't reach up
front, splice on some more with a 3/8" coupling (it may be necessary to
drill the coupling to the same ID as the tube). Clamp the new tube up
front -- your choice where/how.
Now braze the end of a 1/8" steel cable to prevent raveling and for ease of
reading. Use the OEM dipstick to measure the ATF level; leave the dipstick
out. Insert the 1/8" steel cable to measure the ATF level; mark the brazed
end to correspond to the reading on the OEM dipstick and its markings.
Make a handle for the new dipstick like:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-gmc-stuff/p3935.html
Not obvious from that photo is the fact that the cable originally extends
all the way through the T-handle. Only after the correct cable length is
determined and the handle set screw tightened is the excess cut off flush
with the top of the handle.
You now have a remote dipstick installed and calibrated. The OEM dipstick
can be left in place; the cable will fit past it in the OEM tube; but, the
ATF tends to smear on the cable when checking. Better to cut the OEM
dipstick above the added tube;or, make a new (vented) cap to fit the OEM
tube.
DON'T try to add ATF through the 3/8" tube -- lift the hatch and use the
OEM tube! :-)
IIRC, these are offered by some vendors for about $95 if you don't want to
make your own.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239696 is a reply to message #239658] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 13:36 |
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I wonder, would it be possible to fill the OEM tube with shot so it won't collapse, and then bend it to point to the hatch and then braze an extension to it? The new dipstick would be as you describe... you could add of fill from the front.
--johnny
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement
Some of you may want to consider modifying your TH-425 dipstick for
up-front access. It's really pretty simple:
At the 30* bend where the tube turns vertical, drill a 3/8" hole on the
side toward the front of the coach. Distort the hole slightly by inserting
a bolt and "aiming" it toward the planned access location up front. Now
insert a length of 3/8" OD tubing from the desired front access location
into the new hole (the 3/8" need not reach the front; it can be spliced,
like the OEM engine dipstick tube) Use a marker to scribe around the 3/8"
tube at its entry into the dipstick tube. Now remove both tubes to the
workbench.
Cut the 3/8" tube to the marker line and braze it into the dipstick tube,
with no more than 1/32" or so protruding inside. Try to keep the 3/8"
oriented like it was when fitted, but a slight curve when installed won't
matter. Reinstall the new assembly. If the new tube doesn't reach up
front, splice on some more with a 3/8" coupling (it may be necessary to
drill the coupling to the same ID as the tube). Clamp the new tube up
front -- your choice where/how.
Now braze the end of a 1/8" steel cable to prevent raveling and for ease of
reading. Use the OEM dipstick to measure the ATF level; leave the dipstick
out. Insert the 1/8" steel cable to measure the ATF level; mark the brazed
end to correspond to the reading on the OEM dipstick and its markings.
Make a handle for the new dipstick like:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-gmc-stuff/p3935.html
Not obvious from that photo is the fact that the cable originally extends
all the way through the T-handle. Only after the correct cable length is
determined and the handle set screw tightened is the excess cut off flush
with the top of the handle.
You now have a remote dipstick installed and calibrated. The OEM dipstick
can be left in place; the cable will fit past it in the OEM tube; but, the
ATF tends to smear on the cable when checking. Better to cut the OEM
dipstick above the added tube;or, make a new (vented) cap to fit the OEM
tube.
DON'T try to add ATF through the 3/8" tube -- lift the hatch and use the
OEM tube! :-)
IIRC, these are offered by some vendors for about $95 if you don't want to
make your own.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239711 is a reply to message #239696] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 15:20 |
Kosier
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Johnny,
Ken Frey used to sell a modified tube from a Chevy/GMC van that came out
close to the engine dipstick. I have one (somewhere) that I never
installed. I assume GM discontinued the original part since I don't see
them
being sold anymore.
Gary Kosier
77 PB w/500 Cad
Newark. Oh
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From: Johnny Bridges
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:36 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement
I wonder, would it be possible to fill the OEM tube with shot so it won't
collapse, and then bend it to point to the hatch and then braze an extension
to it? The new dipstick would be as you describe... you could add of fill
from the front.
--johnny
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement
Some of you may want to consider modifying your TH-425 dipstick for
up-front access. It's really pretty simple:
At the 30* bend where the tube turns vertical, drill a 3/8" hole on the
side toward the front of the coach. Distort the hole slightly by inserting
a bolt and "aiming" it toward the planned access location up front. Now
insert a length of 3/8" OD tubing from the desired front access location
into the new hole (the 3/8" need not reach the front; it can be spliced,
like the OEM engine dipstick tube) Use a marker to scribe around the 3/8"
tube at its entry into the dipstick tube. Now remove both tubes to the
workbench.
Cut the 3/8" tube to the marker line and braze it into the dipstick tube,
with no more than 1/32" or so protruding inside. Try to keep the 3/8"
oriented like it was when fitted, but a slight curve when installed won't
matter. Reinstall the new assembly. If the new tube doesn't reach up
front, splice on some more with a 3/8" coupling (it may be necessary to
drill the coupling to the same ID as the tube). Clamp the new tube up
front -- your choice where/how.
Now braze the end of a 1/8" steel cable to prevent raveling and for ease of
reading. Use the OEM dipstick to measure the ATF level; leave the dipstick
out. Insert the 1/8" steel cable to measure the ATF level; mark the brazed
end to correspond to the reading on the OEM dipstick and its markings.
Make a handle for the new dipstick like:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/miscellaneous-gmc-stuff/p3935.html
Not obvious from that photo is the fact that the cable originally extends
all the way through the T-handle. Only after the correct cable length is
determined and the handle set screw tightened is the excess cut off flush
with the top of the handle.
You now have a remote dipstick installed and calibrated. The OEM dipstick
can be left in place; the cable will fit past it in the OEM tube; but, the
ATF tends to smear on the cable when checking. Better to cut the OEM
dipstick above the added tube;or, make a new (vented) cap to fit the OEM
tube.
DON'T try to add ATF through the 3/8" tube -- lift the hatch and use the
OEM tube! :-)
IIRC, these are offered by some vendors for about $95 if you don't want to
make your own.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239733 is a reply to message #239696] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 16:28 |
Ken Henderson
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Johnny,
A more reasonable mod might be to rotate the tube toward the front and move
the bracket to a new position to keep it there.
Adding fluid through that long tube would require lots of patience.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> I wonder, would it be possible to fill the OEM tube with shot so it won't
> collapse, and then bend it to point to the hatch and then braze an
> extension to it? The new dipstick would be as you describe... you could
> add of fill from the front.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239758 is a reply to message #239733] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 17:39 |
jhbridges
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yeh, but I think you'll still hafta extend it. If so, you should extend with the same diameter tubing so you >can< fill it reasonably quickly. I pop the hatch before each trip and look at everything anyway, so as lobng as I'm not losing fluid, it's a moot point.
--johnny
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement
Johnny,
A more reasonable mod might be to rotate the tube toward the front and move
the bracket to a new position to keep it there.
Adding fluid through that long tube would require lots of patience.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> I wonder, would it be possible to fill the OEM tube with shot so it won't
> collapse, and then bend it to point to the hatch and then braze an
> extension to it? The new dipstick would be as you describe... you could
> add of fill from the front.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239762 is a reply to message #239758] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 17:48 |
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Johnny & all, Your suggestion to open the engine cover before you start up
the engine is a very good one. I have seen several engine fires that
started in the nesting materials recently vacated by birds, squirrels,
mice, rats, and other unwelcome visitors to our engines when they are left
idle . Sometimes for a very short time. Does not hurt to remove the air
cleaner and look in and under it as well.
Probably another argument for blocking the exhaust crossover as well.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> yeh, but I think you'll still hafta extend it. If so, you should extend
> with the same diameter tubing so you >can< fill it reasonably quickly. I
> pop the hatch before each trip and look at everything anyway, so as lobng
> as I'm not losing fluid, it's a moot point.
>
> --johnny
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> From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
> To: gmclist <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement
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> Johnny,
>
> A more reasonable mod might be to rotate the tube toward the front and move
> the bracket to a new position to keep it there.
>
> Adding fluid through that long tube would require lots of patience.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
>
> > I wonder, would it be possible to fill the OEM tube with shot so it won't
> > collapse, and then bend it to point to the hatch and then braze an
> > extension to it? The new dipstick would be as you describe... you could
> > add of fill from the front.
> >
> >
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| Re: TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239771 is a reply to message #239411] |
Wed, 12 February 2014 18:26 |
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A bit off topic, but I am just starting to accept that many transmissions no longer have dipsticks. Much to my surprise I just discovered that my new car doesn't even have an engine dipstick. That's definitely pushing me out of my comfort zone.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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| Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement [message #239806 is a reply to message #239758] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 06:51 |
Jim Bounds
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That's right-- if you don't see your tranny marking spots everywhere, it's not strowed back onto the frame from a leak while underway as long as you check your trans fluid before a run you should be fine. Oil on the other hand is different. Depending on the internal wear and the driving conditions will effect oil use and just the fact the any motor will use some amount of oil under use a remote dip stich is good to have. I see the remote trans stick as something that if you have it and like it awesome but I would not seek to install one. I known of them and sold a blue million of em for 2 decades (mostly in the first 3 years)-- until I actually got out on the road and got seat time I found it to be something I did not use. Could be just me and any mod you do that you lile is a good one that enhanses your GMC experience. Do what fits your life...
Jim Bounds
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From: Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement
yeh, but I think you'll still hafta extend it. If so, you should extend with the same diameter tubing so you >can< fill it reasonably quickly. I pop the hatch before each trip and look at everything anyway, so as lobng as I'm not losing fluid, it's a moot point.
--johnny
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] TH425 Dipstick replacement
Johnny,
A more reasonable mod might be to rotate the tube toward the front and move
the bracket to a new position to keep it there.
Adding fluid through that long tube would require lots of patience.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> I wonder, would it be possible to fill the OEM tube with shot so it won't
> collapse, and then bend it to point to the hatch and then braze an
> extension to it? The new dipstick would be as you describe... you could
> add of fill from the front.
>
>
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