| interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237410] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 08:28  |
rcjordan
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Anybody here using Apple Airport Express Base Station paired with an Apple TV to stream between devices while rolling? I'm not talking about internet access, just using the apps and streaming to handle audio & video. The Apple combo seems the way to go but I thought I'd see if anyone here has worked this out yet.
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237415 is a reply to message #237410] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 08:58  |
rcjordan
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I've been reading that in a "no internet" situation that some routers have significant boot time issues and/or spawn no-internet alert messages. The Express seems (again, from reading) to be able to handle the standalone environment well with the added benefit of relatively easy management via IOS apps. Since I have to buy something for the coach anyway, I'm not opposed to springing for the Express vs some other router. That said, I might prefer a usb-powered option as that would work well with the 12volt tv I just bought. I'm very open to suggestions on this setup, though, and don't want to sound like I've made up my mind.
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237426 is a reply to message #237410] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 09:59 |
rcjordan
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I dislike ethernet cables (hooked to one now), so I'd like to stream everything via wireless, Ken. Most likely, any internet connectivity will come in through some portable device.
>it is Apple's name for a generic wireless card running 802.11b, 802.11g, or 802.11n (WiFi).
Right, but with Apple's apple-to-apple interface which (at least in other devices) eliminates a lot of setup/maintenance issues. I'll add that I know less-than-zero about subnets and DHCP.
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237428 is a reply to message #237426] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 10:04 |
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using airport extreme with macbook iphones ipads and appletv
It all works great was just working on the wired macbook, while the iphone was streaming Odetta to the wired appletv and the tv
Also easy to use iphone/ipad to work netflix via the appletv
No issues whatsoever, wired or wifi or combination of both
Appie
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237430 is a reply to message #237410] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 10:13 |
rcjordan
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>using airport extreme with macbook iphones ipads and appletv
So, I can see why your nick here is 'apple.'
I have the Extreme running the house for 2 or 3 years now, and it's been great. Reboots flawlessly, etc.
Why did you go with the Extreme over the Express?
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237434 is a reply to message #237410] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 10:29 |
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The airport express is a nice compact unit that is easily set configured using Apple's airport utility. It can't be beat for easy setup and streaming from your Mac or other iOS device.
When stopped at a campground that has WIFI, If you want to get Internet to your AppleTV , computer and other devices you can configure a second airport express to act as a bridge between the campground wifi and your coach network. Just use an ethernet cable to connect one airport to the other. This can also be done with a single router from other manufacturers such as cradlepoint that supports WIFI as WAN but I find using two interconnected airports provides better speed.
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| Re: [GMCnet] interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237438 is a reply to message #237436] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 10:54 |
James Hupy
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For the most part, free wifi Sucks, big time in the more remote areas.
MacDonalds is the exception. Tim Horton coffee shops in Canada. When we
crossed Canada, we were sometimes without internet or cell phone for as
long as 5 days. When we got back stateside, I bought a Samsung Galaxy 4g
cell phone with an internet hot spot. AT & T provider everywhere now. As
far as TV goes, it is a major waste of time to even turn it on. I use it as
a sleep aid.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Jan 25, 2014 8:33 AM, "RC Jordan" <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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> Bingo! That was my other question, Carl.
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237455 is a reply to message #237410] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 15:52 |
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| rcjordan wrote on Sat, 25 January 2014 06:28 |
Anybody here using Apple Airport Express Base Station paired with an Apple TV to stream between devices while rolling? I'm not talking about internet access, just using the apps and streaming to handle audio & video. The Apple combo seems the way to go but I thought I'd see if anyone here has worked this out yet.
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Apple TV also has WiFi capability so you don't need ether cables but will need a wireless router of some sort. I happen to use a MyWiFi unit for traveling Internet, but it also works as a router letting me watch movies I have on my Windoze laptop ( don't carry the DVDs any more), and let's me use AirPlay to show pictures from the iPhone or IPad on the TV.
Now I am looking for a swing down TV with HDMI input.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237472 is a reply to message #237421] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 17:43 |
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The AirPort Express Base Station does a lot of things most non-Mac OS guys
don't know to ask about.
Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
ATTENTION: This reply is in reference to what is provided belowŠ
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>If you are only looking to hook Ethernet devices together then all you
>need is a single Ethernet cable with the cable pairs reversed. No router
>needed. I usually carry one or two of these cables in my PC bag. You
>will have to configure your two devices with fixed addresses on the same
>sub-net (no DHCP). That is it.
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>If you do not want to use a null cable, a simple Ethernet switch will do
>the same thing and will allow you to have more than two devices on the
>same network. You will still have to configure the devices with fixed
>addresses.
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>The only additional thing a consumer type router will buy you is the
>ability to hook wireless and wired devices together and DHCP (the ability
>to hand out and manage addresses). Of course you will have to configure
>the router.
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>I have no idea what an express card is but I am assuming it is Apple's
>name for a generic wireless card running 802.11b, 802.11g, or 802.11n
>(WiFi). If so, even two of those will talk to each other without a
>router.
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| Re: [GMCnet] interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237473 is a reply to message #237434] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 17:49 |
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You said, "I find using two interconnected airports provides better
speed." Of course. Each unit is doing one thing instead of trying to do
more with the same amount of internal memory and processor speed.
Keep us up-to-date on the Gadabout. Been a fan of those since I stepped
into a brand new one that had been won and delivered two weeks earlier.
Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
ATTENTION: This reply is in reference to what is provided belowŠ
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>The airport express is a nice compact unit that is easily set configured
>using Apple's airport utility. It can't be beat for easy setup and
>streaming from your Mac or other iOS device.
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>When stopped at a campground that has WIFI, If you want to get Internet
>to your AppleTV , computer and other devices you can configure a second
>airport express to act as a bridge between the campground wifi and your
>coach network. Just use an ethernet cable to connect one airport to the
>other. This can also be done with a single router from other
>manufacturers such as cradlepoint that supports WIFI as WAN but I find
>using two interconnected airports provides better speed.
>--
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>1978 Gadabout-Restoring
>1978 Palm Beach
>1976 Glenbrook
>Prevost Featherlite H3-45
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237486 is a reply to message #237421] |
Sat, 25 January 2014 21:41 |
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After reviewing your response I went back and re-read what you were trying to do and what the express version 3 actually is. It is a very simple router with 2 radios 802.11a and 802.11b/g/n built in.
Any router of any brand would work. Reviews of the Express product say it was 4 years behind the technology curve when it was released two years ago. It is one of those who cares things. If it does what you want then go for it.
It looks like just about any modern 5 year old router or bridge would work.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: interconnected devices via local wireless network -no internet? [message #237524 is a reply to message #237410] |
Sun, 26 January 2014 13:18 |
rcjordan
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>Express Base Station
"Easy Wi-Fi setup using iPhone, iPad, or Mac: Connect your DSL or cable modem to AirPort Express and create your new wireless network in just a few taps from your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch."
I'm buying it for the app UI, hopefully. Whether it's cutting edge really doesn't matter, and without sounding cavalier about saving $60, if it stands a better chance of me not having to support it then I'll give it a shot. Also, the footprint is puck-sized. Thanks, Ken.
FWIW, check out PirateBox. I considered it for this 12v media center project (which will include Rpi) but then I'd be supporting it. Nah! I've done enough support.
>Extreme
>disk
Thanks, Apple. Since I'm going to have the Raspberry Pi jacked into the network to monitor temperatures around the coach, I should be able to bring the network disk in (if needed) via that.
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