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| Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235592] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 10:52  |
Larry
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I've only filled my GMC with gas once several years ago, and the experience left me with about 2 gallons of gas on me,the coach, and the cement pad around me. I used a 2" cutoff from a foam noodle to adapt the dispenser to the GMC filler. (a suggestion I found on the GMCnet) The dispenser did not cut off when full and pumped in extra gas...I figure expanding the tanks a little. When things didn't seem right to me, I manually shut it off and removed the nozzle. A lot of gas gushed out soaking me, the coach and the station pump.
I filled with fuel at the Arizona border before entering California. I plan to do some traveling here, so do not want to experience a spill like this again.
What did I do wrong and what is the proper way to fill the GMC with fuel in California?
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235604 is a reply to message #235592] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 11:44  |
armandminnie
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Larry, the problem with that foam piece (as you now know)is that it can block the air from venting during fill - the rubber vapor-capture rig on the nozzle pulls the vapors back in. I also had a problem with the foam disintegrating when it contacted gasoline fumes. I use an ABS union (2-inch I think)that I cut off at an angle on my chop saw. It works great - might work without the angle too.
Armand Minnie
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235620 is a reply to message #235592] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 14:09 |
Mr ERFisher
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this spacer breathes
http://gmcmotorhome.info/Fuel.html#nozzle
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
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> I've only filled my GMC with gas once several years ago, and the
> experience left me with about 2 gallons of gas on me,the coach, and the
> cement pad around me. I used a 2" cutoff from a foam noodle to adapt the
> dispenser to the GMC filler. (a suggestion I found on the GMCnet) The
> dispenser did not cut off when full and pumped in extra gas...I figure
> expanding the tanks a little. When things didn't seem right to me, I
> manually shut it off and removed the nozzle. A lot of gas gushed out
> soaking me, the coach and the station pump.
>
> I filled with fuel at the Arizona border before entering California. I
> plan to do some traveling here, so do not want to experience a spill like
> this again.
>
> What did I do wrong and what is the proper way to fill the GMC with fuel
> in California?
> --
> Larry :)
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235622 is a reply to message #235592] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 14:39 |
kerry pinkerton
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What is unique about California? Well, I know there are LOTS of things unique about California but specifically what is different about their gas nozzles. Not planning on going there...just curious.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235624 is a reply to message #235622] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 14:52 |
James Hupy
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Fume recovery nozzles with a pump switch. The bellows on the nozzle must
hold a seal or the pump will not dispense fuel. The GMC fuel neck will not
seal, so a foam donut is often used over the neck to effect a seal. On some
stations it is a REAL PAIN IN THE BUTT to get their nozzles to seal. Brand
of gas does not seem to matter much. I personally do not like the hassle.
Other areas have similar nozzles (like Seattle, Wa.) but they are a
slightly different design and seem to be easier to use, at least to me.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or.
78 GMC Royale 403
On Jan 9, 2014 12:39 PM, "Kerry Pinkerton" <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com> wrote:
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> What is unique about California? Well, I know there are LOTS of things
> unique about California but specifically what is different about their gas
> nozzles. Not planning on going there...just curious.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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> an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235625 is a reply to message #235622] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 15:07 |
armandminnie
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| Kerry Pinkerton wrote on Thu, 09 January 2014 13:39 |
What is unique about California? Well, I know there are LOTS of things unique about California but specifically what is different about their gas nozzles. Not planning on going there...just curious.
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All you really have to do to make Calif. nozzles work is to hold them back using your finger or anything else you have. They do not have to seal - I think they must somehow mechanically sense that they are pushed into the filler neck far enough. The nozzle does recover the vapors that are pushed out of the tank so the spacer must allow vapors to pass and apparently Larry's didn't.
Armand Minnie
Marana, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235626 is a reply to message #235620] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 15:12 |
Gary Berry
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I got one of these "noodle" fuel things at Santa Rosa. When I was finished
filling up at the T/A in Corning and as I was putting the nozzle back the
wind blew it off of the fill tube and took it for a ride. The wind was
blowing really strong and away it went. I called it Wilson. I never saw it
again. It sure made it easy to fill up in CA.
On Thursday, January 9, 2014, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> this spacer breathes
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> http://gmcmotorhome.info/Fuel.html#nozzle
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> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
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>> I've only filled my GMC with gas once several years ago, and the
>> experience left me with about 2 gallons of gas on me,the coach, and the
>> cement pad around me. I used a 2" cutoff from a foam noodle to adapt the
>> dispenser to the GMC filler. (a suggestion I found on the GMCnet) The
>> dispenser did not cut off when full and pumped in extra gas...I figure
>> expanding the tanks a little. When things didn't seem right to me, I
>> manually shut it off and removed the nozzle. A lot of gas gushed out
>> soaking me, the coach and the station pump.
>>
>> I filled with fuel at the Arizona border before entering California. I
>> plan to do some traveling here, so do not want to experience a spill like
>> this again.
>>
>> What did I do wrong and what is the proper way to fill the GMC with fuel
>> in California?
>> --
>> Larry :)
>> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
>> Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235635 is a reply to message #235622] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 16:39 |
George B.
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The dispenser nozzles in Calif have a bellows that one has to force down on the filler neck. When the bellows are compressed it forms a seal between the nozzle and the filler neck. The GMC filler neck is recessed and at an angle that makes it difficult to impossible to insert the nozzle into the filler neck. I usually have to pull back and hold the bellows by hand to be able to insert the nozzle. Then I have to hold it like that most of the time while pumping
Several times I have got the nozzle & bellows stuck in the gas filler opening and have spent some time to work it free. I also have a 1971 Honda 600 Coupe that has a similar compartment for the gas filler neck. Recently I was filling it up at a Chevron station and managed to be able to let go of the nozzle and let it fill by itself. Well that car always gets lots of attention and while someone was distracting me wanting to buy the car someone else said "you are spilling gas." The darn thing did not shut off I guess due to the way the nozzle was jammed in there. Looked like a couple of gallons of gas spilled on the ground by the time I was able to shut it off. I went inside to tell the attendant about the spill but when he came out with a bag of cat litter he was more interested in the car than attending to the spill.
George Butts
Las Vegas Nevada
73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235640 is a reply to message #235624] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 17:24 |
Mr ERFisher
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They do not need to deal
You can hold up the boot with your finger
That is why this works
With a foam spacer
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On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:52 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fume recovery nozzles with a pump switch. The bellows on the nozzle must
> hold a seal or the pump will not dispense fuel. The GMC fuel neck will not
> seal, so a foam donut is often used over the neck to effect a seal. On some
> stations it is a REAL PAIN IN THE BUTT to get their nozzles to seal. Brand
> of gas does not seem to matter much. I personally do not like the hassle.
> Other areas have similar nozzles (like Seattle, Wa.) but they are a
> slightly different design and seem to be easier to use, at least to me.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or.
> 78 GMC Royale 403
> On Jan 9, 2014 12:39 PM, "Kerry Pinkerton" <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
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>> What is unique about California? Well, I know there are LOTS of things
>> unique about California but specifically what is different about their gas
>> nozzles. Not planning on going there...just curious.
>> --
>> Kerry Pinkerton
>>
>> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>>
>> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as
>> an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235641 is a reply to message #235635] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 17:54 |
noi
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| George B. wrote on Thu, 09 January 2014 14:39 |
I also have a 1971 Honda 600 Coupe
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George,
Whoa.... Way Cool
I had one as well.... A long time ago - It was THE most FUN car I have ever owned!
It was also the only car I have ever bought on the spot - I was driving by (I think I remember) a Pontiac dealership and saw an 1972 OD Green one sitting on the show room floor - I turned around, parked, went in, and sat in it - The salesman came up and said "can I help you"
I said.... I'll take it!!!!
He was kind of stunned that I would buy it without even test driving it.
For the next two years I drove the h3ll out and still got +40mpg (and that was when gas was $.25/gal) - Didn't hesitate to drive it from LA to San Francisco (drafting semi's on I5 was way loads of fun and could "almost" take my foot off the throttle - Easy to work on (few qt's of oil&filter, some plugs&points, adj values = done) - With a dash shifter you hardly needed to move your hand off the steering wheel - Could nip&tuck through traffic as if it was a motorcycle with a body helmet (though driving NEXT to semi's was.... "interesting"
And not that I ever (cough cough) did this.... But I "heard" that it was never a problem for you and your friend(s) to get OUT of a parking lot controlled by an arm gate - The "rumor" was that there was JUST enough room to drive UNDER the arm if "someone" lifted up on it - Though "I" would NEVER have done that... No sir re, not me 
Ahhh, way loads of fun - Thanks for the memory 
Oh, and the DW say's I can't offer to buy it from you 
Carl P.
76 Birchaven
South of Fremont
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the GMC with gas in California. [message #235647 is a reply to message #235641] |
Thu, 09 January 2014 18:17 |
Ronald Pottol
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Were any other Kei cars ever sold here? The Japanese class cars by size,
with width being a major factor (if you look at a lot of 1980s and early
1990s vintage Japanese cars, you can see how for the export market they
made them with fender flares and wider tires, cheap ways to take advantage
of the unrestricted US market), and the larger the size, the higher the
tax. Also, a Kei car (tiny car, 550cc motor) did not require you to show
proof of having a parking spot if you lived in Tokyo when buying. Or so
I've heard.
And the Coupe was small and light enough to easily be turned sideways in a
parking spot by enterprising passers by.
;-)
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, noi <v76_Birchaven@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> George B. wrote on Thu, 09 January 2014 14:39
> > I also have a 1971 Honda 600 Coupe
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> George,
>
> Whoa.... Way Cool
>
> I had one as well.... A long time ago - It was THE most FUN car I have
> ever owned!
>
> It was also the only car I have ever bought on the spot - I was driving by
> (I think I remember) a Pontiac dealership and saw an 1972 OD Green one
> sitting on the show room floor - I turned around, parked, went in, and sat
> in it - The salesman came up and said "can I help you"
>
> I said.... I'll take it!!!!
>
> He was kind of stunned that I would buy it without even test driving it.
>
> For the next two years I drove the h3ll out and still got +40mpg (and that
> was when gas was $.25/gal) - Didn't hesitate to drive it from LA to San
> Francisco (drafting semi's on I5 was way loads of fun and could "almost"
> take my foot off the throttle :) - Easy to work on (few qt's of oil&filter,
> some plugs&points, adj values = done) - With a dash shifter you hardly
> needed to move your hand off the steering wheel - Could nip&tuck through
> traffic as if it was a motorcycle with a body helmet (though driving NEXT
> to semi's was.... "interesting"
>
> And not that I ever (cough cough) did this.... But I "heard" that it was
> never a problem for you and your friend(s) to get OUT of a parking lot
> controlled by an arm gate - The "rumor" was that there was JUST enough room
> to drive UNDER the arm if "someone" lifted up on it - Though "I" would
> NEVER have done that... No sir re, not me :roll:
>
> Ahhh, way loads of fun - Thanks for the memory ;)
>
> Oh, and the DW say's I can't offer to buy it from you :lol:
>
> Carl P.
> 76 Birchaven
> South of Fremont
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