| [GMCnet] So much for Global warming [message #235272] |
Mon, 06 January 2014 13:50  |
BobDunahugh
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Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
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Last night as I was working on our GMC in the shop that I have here at home for it. As I went to the house. The temp change from inside to out was about 90 degrees. Then on top of that. The wind chill was at 45, to 50 below zero. Today it's going up to 15 below zero. With a wind chill of -40, to -45. Tonight it's expected to go down to 25, to 30 below. That will make the temp difference of - 100 or so. Then add on a wind chill of 50, to 55 below. There are about 50 birds under our back deck now. At least the cool weather keeps the riff, faff out. And I do like the fact that I have a summer life. And a winter life.Bob Dunahugh in sunny Iowa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much for Global Warming [message #235275 is a reply to message #235273] |
Mon, 06 January 2014 14:15  |
kelvin
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Location: Eugene, OR
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I connect my air compressor to the City Water fitting and apply about
3psi of pressure and let the air run until all of the open spigots (and
water heater drain) are spitting air. I do put a little antifreeze in
the p-traps. It's been good enough for the last 10 years but at -10° in
December it got a REAL test. Used the coach after Christmas and nothing
leaked.
Was worried about the macerator, however. I have a valve between the
tank and the macerator that is always closed. I dug a hole in the
gravel, opened the valve and ran the macerator. No problems.
That said, my '73 230 has been heavily modified by a PO or two. I have
a drain valve under the coach near the propane tank. Not sure they all
had drains there so maybe that is the low spot that lets me get all the
water out.
Kelvin
On 1/6/2014 11:53 AM, Fred Hudspeth wrote:
> Completely evacuating all water from the coach water system eliminates the
> need to use RV antifreeze. I use a 1 BHP wet/dry shop vacuum cleaner for
> that purpose in Alaska. 'Job takes about 45 minutes. 'Have never had freeze
> damage of any kind in the 35 years I have been using this method of freeze
> protection with temperature excursions to as low as 38F below zero in South
> Central Alaska. An old sourdough neighbor recommended this practice to avoid
> the residual taste/smell of the RV antifreeze in use 35 years ago.
>
> Fred Hudspeth
> 1978 Royale - Tyler, TX
> 1982 Airstream Excella 28' Mh - Cooper Landing, Alaska
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> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:14:49 -0600
> From: Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] So much for Global Warming
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Message-ID: <396e7.52cae489@gmc.mybirdfeeder.net>
>
>
> Emery Stora wrote on Mon, 06 January 2014 10:13
>> Your pink stuff is likely made with ethyl alcohol. It will separate and
> part of it will freeze. If you buy a jug made with propylene glycol it will
> not do that.
>> You pay a little more but get the protection you want.
>>
>> I recommend that you check the label when you purchase it and not buy the
> ethyl alcohol product.
>> Emery Stora
> This is also why it is important to blow out the lines FIRST to eliminate as
> much water as possible before filling or flushing those lines with the ethyl
> alcohol stuff. I had a previous question to Emery on this issue and he
> pointed out the any water in the mix with ethyl Alcohol may separate out.
>
> I blew out my lines, filled the system with pink stuff and blew out the
> lines a second time. This hopefully flushed any remaining water out of the
> system. The stuff all ended up in the black tank. I then ran the macerator
> to flush it out also.
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much for Global Warming [message #235277 is a reply to message #235275] |
Mon, 06 January 2014 15:09 |
mickeysss
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I use irish whiskey the hell with the pipes.
mick anaheim ca. 77 palm beach
On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Kelvin Dietz wrote:
> I connect my air compressor to the City Water fitting and apply about
> 3psi of pressure and let the air run until all of the open spigots (and
> water heater drain) are spitting air. I do put a little antifreeze in
> the p-traps. It's been good enough for the last 10 years but at -10° in
> December it got a REAL test. Used the coach after Christmas and nothing
> leaked.
>
> Was worried about the macerator, however. I have a valve between the
> tank and the macerator that is always closed. I dug a hole in the
> gravel, opened the valve and ran the macerator. No problems.
>
> That said, my '73 230 has been heavily modified by a PO or two. I have
> a drain valve under the coach near the propane tank. Not sure they all
> had drains there so maybe that is the low spot that lets me get all the
> water out.
>
> Kelvin
>
>
> On 1/6/2014 11:53 AM, Fred Hudspeth wrote:
>> Completely evacuating all water from the coach water system eliminates the
>> need to use RV antifreeze. I use a 1 BHP wet/dry shop vacuum cleaner for
>> that purpose in Alaska. 'Job takes about 45 minutes. 'Have never had freeze
>> damage of any kind in the 35 years I have been using this method of freeze
>> protection with temperature excursions to as low as 38F below zero in South
>> Central Alaska. An old sourdough neighbor recommended this practice to avoid
>> the residual taste/smell of the RV antifreeze in use 35 years ago.
>>
>> Fred Hudspeth
>> 1978 Royale - Tyler, TX
>> 1982 Airstream Excella 28' Mh - Cooper Landing, Alaska
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:14:49 -0600
>> From: Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] So much for Global Warming
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Message-ID: <396e7.52cae489@gmc.mybirdfeeder.net>
>>
>>
>> Emery Stora wrote on Mon, 06 January 2014 10:13
>>> Your pink stuff is likely made with ethyl alcohol. It will separate and
>> part of it will freeze. If you buy a jug made with propylene glycol it will
>> not do that.
>>> You pay a little more but get the protection you want.
>>>
>>> I recommend that you check the label when you purchase it and not buy the
>> ethyl alcohol product.
>>> Emery Stora
>> This is also why it is important to blow out the lines FIRST to eliminate as
>> much water as possible before filling or flushing those lines with the ethyl
>> alcohol stuff. I had a previous question to Emery on this issue and he
>> pointed out the any water in the mix with ethyl Alcohol may separate out.
>>
>> I blew out my lines, filled the system with pink stuff and blew out the
>> lines a second time. This hopefully flushed any remaining water out of the
>> system. The stuff all ended up in the black tank. I then ran the macerator
>> to flush it out also.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much for Global Warming [message #235279 is a reply to message #235278] |
Mon, 06 January 2014 15:21 |
emerystora
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I have heard some similar forecasts from that site in previous years. It is an indian reservation located by Crystal, ND.
They have also had some very funny traffic alerts as well.
Emery Stora
On Jan 6, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Mitch <Yowzax3@harbornet.com> wrote:
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> Here is a weather advisory from a North Dakota Sioux Weatherman:
> If you can't take some straight language, don't listen :blush:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hGIF9FljM
> --
> Mitch
> Tacoma, Wa.
> '80 Spitfire
> '03 Windstar
> X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast"
> Where it rains, always.
>
> It's wet, No sun, Gray.
> Go to Oregon.
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| Re: [GMCnet] So much for Global Warming [message #235287 is a reply to message #235273] |
Mon, 06 January 2014 17:09 |
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Fred,
Now this sounds really interesting! I use an adapter to blow the water out of the supply lines and then pour some pink stuff into
the drains.
Could you provide some details of the how you suck the water out?
Thanks,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Hudspeth
Completely evacuating all water from the coach water system eliminates the
need to use RV antifreeze. I use a 1 BHP wet/dry shop vacuum cleaner for
that purpose in Alaska. 'Job takes about 45 minutes. 'Have never had freeze
damage of any kind in the 35 years I have been using this method of freeze
protection with temperature excursions to as low as 38F below zero in South
Central Alaska. An old sourdough neighbor recommended this practice to avoid
the residual taste/smell of the RV antifreeze in use 35 years ago.
Fred
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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