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Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234011] Thu, 26 December 2013 09:30 Go to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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I finally have a front dinette. I don't have the wooden spacer that attaches to the wall.

Can someone measure one for me?
Please?

Thickness is most important...

thanks!


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234013 is a reply to message #234011] Thu, 26 December 2013 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keith V wrote on Thu, 26 December 2013 10:30

I finally have a front dinette. I don't have the wooden spacer that attaches to the wall.

Can someone measure one for me?
Please?

Thickness is most important...

thanks!

Keith,

Problem there, Royale is not a GMC interior. Is the table you got a GMC or a Coachman? I don't know that they are different, and I can measure both mine and the '78 here when I get dressed to go outside in a little while.

Matt


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234014 is a reply to message #234013] Thu, 26 December 2013 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll check my '76 Royale when I get to the shop later today. Is this the table that has one fold up leg and when you fold over the leaves there are cup holders on them?

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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234015 is a reply to message #234014] Thu, 26 December 2013 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is a GM table with the fold up leaves wit the cup holders on the bottom and the one leg.

Thanks guys!


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234016 is a reply to message #234015] Thu, 26 December 2013 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello, Keith. I have a Birchaven by Coachmen, so originally our tables were probably the same. The spacer I have behind the aluminum interlocking hardware is a 1x. I do not know for sure if it is original or not, but it looks original. One of my previous owners added valences and clipped the corners of the fold up leaves so they'd clear the bottom of the valence. It's possible that the wood spacer was added/changed at that time.

In the OEM world I'd imagine that Coachmen would have used stock stock at every opportunity instead of building in supplemental operations and costs, so I'd say I'm 90% confident that the 1x spacer was OEM.

The spacer is just there to allow the leaves to fold up and clear the window/blinds/valence. You could measure what size spacer works for your coach using a ruler and a try square to emulate the leaf folding up. Hold the ruler vertically against the obstruction you're trying to clear with the top corner of the ruler touching where the top of the leaf in the folded up vertical position would touch (assuming that the obstruction is at the top of the leaf in that position), and use the try square to measure back to the wall paneling at the height where the table will be mounted. Add a little to that dimension for clearance, deduct the width of the aluminum hardware and that's your spacer width.

Richard


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234037 is a reply to message #234016] Thu, 26 December 2013 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Keith. Mine is 14" x 2" x 3/4". It is routed all along the outer edge (think door molding) so it could actually be a little smaller than 2".

Like Richard said, I think the only real consideration is that you can remove and install the table without hitting anything, so as long as it is longer than the metal bracket and about an inch thick, the actual dimensions aren't that important.


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234039 is a reply to message #234037] Thu, 26 December 2013 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Otterwan wrote on Thu, 26 December 2013 15:51

Like Richard said, I think the only real consideration is that you can remove and install the table without hitting anything, so as long as it is longer than the metal bracket and about an inch thick, the actual dimensions aren't that important.


Hi. That's not quite what I said, perhaps I wasn't clear. The table interlocking hardware would release before the tabletop came even close to the closest obstruction, which would be the plastic window trim in an OEM situation. You don't have to have the table vertical to remove it, right?

The spacer is there to allow the table leaves to fold up without hitting the plastic trim.

Richard


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234045 is a reply to message #234039] Thu, 26 December 2013 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard V. wrote on Thu, 26 December 2013 15:34


Hi. That's not quite what I said, perhaps I wasn't clear. The table interlocking hardware would release before the tabletop came even close to the closest obstruction, which would be the plastic window trim in an OEM situation. You don't have to have the table vertical to remove it, right?

The spacer is there to allow the table leaves to fold up without hitting the plastic trim.

Richard


Richard - Both observations are correct. The table leaves would hit the wall without the spacer, but also since (at least on my coach) the spacer sinks into the wall upholstery a bit, if the metal bracket was attached directly to the wall I think removing the table would damage the upholstery.

The spacer of dimensions noted allows plenty of clearance for both. - Dave


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234048 is a reply to message #234045] Thu, 26 December 2013 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, Dave, I got you now. I wasn't thinking about upholstery. I don't know if Coachman upholstered side walls. I believe the Royales and Birchavens were all paneled.

I'm still not thrilled a P.O. cut the table leaves at an angle to clear the valences. I'm probably going to be reworking the blinds and valences at some point, so I guess I'll have to redo the table as well. Will it never end...?! Wink I sure as hell hope not!

Richard


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Re: Dinette bracket spacer mount size? [message #234053 is a reply to message #234048] Thu, 26 December 2013 19:28 Go to previous message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Fantastic. I think I got it figured out.
It seems pretty straight forward.
I was guessing just over an inch, so 1" should be good.


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