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Well stated, Larry.
I have had the opportunity to do a lot of business in Mexico in the past interacting with many of the most highly placed officials in the government, industry and education. On one occasion we hosted a dinner party in our back yard over looking the Columbia river. That party included the current or former ministers of nearly all their cabinet level positions, the President of UNAM (the largest university in the Americas and perhaps the world at 250,000 students), the head of the national lab part of PEMEX (the state owned national oil company), and the presidents of several of the largest industrial firms. Seemingly fine, well meaning gentlemen all.
One major impediment standing in the way of modernizing their country, and openly derided by all these gentlemen, was the monopoly on oil given to Pemex by a socialist government decades ago. Pemex itself became a bureaucratic nightmare of political patronage. The money that was supposed to go to "the people" to modernize Mexico never got there, nor was it reinvested in infrastructure as it was by law supposed to. As a result, one of the largest oil producers on earth stagnated in the 50s, the fields became non-productive, pollution in the Tobasco region, especially along the Veracruz coast line, became significant.
Just in the last two weeks the Federal government changed the law removing the oil monopoly from Pemex and allowing foreign investment in oil exploration, extraction, refinement and distribution. That may well mark the fundamental change that might finally allow Mexico to invest in bringing itself up by its own boot straps to join the modern nations of the world. I hope so. We spent many wonderful winters in central Mexico during our full timing days in the rolling condo. Never felt the slightest discomfort and never saw any evidence of corruption or danger to tourists. One would never go outside the Zona Rosa in Mexico City after dark any more that one would go most places in Chicago day or night these days, but that is true of most all big cities around the world. We heard lots of stories about the banditos coming out of the hills a robbing tourists, but none of them ever checked out as being anything but stories.
The rise of the drug cartels changed everything for the worst in the border towns and for the senior people in government, education and industry as they became targets. Rival gangs shoot it out to control transportation points. The fact that the Federal government is now stepping in willing to take on anyone I see as a good sign. Would I like to be in the cross fire? No. But from our experience that is very unlikely. A tourist has nothing of value remotely in the same magnitude as a drug dealer or transport hub so the really bad guys don't want the exposure of hassling anyone but the wealthiest. Small time crooks there are just like they are here so the risks are about the same.
A couple of our sons regularly surf the west coast of Mexico along with a whole bunch of surfers from around the world. While there is a lot of drug trafficing in the states of Michoacan, Colima, Jalisco, Nayarit and Sinaloa, (it is new in the state of Sonora with many of the other access points now sealed off), they have never seen any evidence of bad guys or dealers going after the surfers.
My take anyway.
Jerry
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Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 09:41:17 -0800
From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LED headlights
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That shoot-out in Mexico is nothing more than an evening on International Boulevard in Oakland, or any Sunday the Raiders are playing at the Coliseum.
I shouldn?t joke. The gun-battle video looked horrific. Those combatants were using really big guns and bullets that could easily have hurt innocents. It amazes me how many rounds are fired compared to how few targets are actually hit.
I?d wager the aluminum of our coaches would not stand a chance against anything of that caliber.
With all the natural resources, fertile soil, proximity to the US market, and intelligence abundant in Mexico why hasn?t it joined the first tier of nations? Why still is it a 3rd world country? There are so many beautiful spots to visit, historic locations to tour, and cuisine to eat, that this violence is repulsing tourism and investment.
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED headlights [message #233638 is a reply to message #233620] |
Sat, 21 December 2013 15:38  |
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G'day,
Might as well add my $.02 to this discussion.
IMO the only way the drug problem will be resolved is when they are all de-criminalized regulated and taxed. The BILLIONS that are
spent on trying to combat this problem and the taxes collected could be added to government coffers and put to better use than a
fruitless battle.
Prohibition is a perfect example of this.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Work Jerry
Well stated, Larry.
I have had the opportunity to do a lot of business in Mexico in the past interacting with many of the most highly placed officials
in the government, industry and education. On one occasion we hosted a dinner party in our back yard over looking the Columbia
river. That party included the current or former ministers of nearly all their cabinet level positions, the President of UNAM (the
largest university in the Americas and perhaps the world at 250,000 students), the head of the national lab part of PEMEX (the state
owned national oil company), and the presidents of several of the largest industrial firms. Seemingly fine, well meaning gentlemen
all.
One major impediment standing in the way of modernizing their country, and openly derided by all these gentlemen, was the monopoly
on oil given to Pemex by a socialist government decades ago. Pemex itself became a bureaucratic nightmare of political patronage.
The money that was supposed to go to "the people" to modernize Mexico never got there, nor was it reinvested in infrastructure as it
was by law supposed to. As a result, one of the largest oil producers on earth stagnated in the 50s, the fields became
non-productive, pollution in the Tobasco region, especially along the Veracruz coast line, became significant.
Just in the last two weeks the Federal government changed the law removing the oil monopoly from Pemex and allowing foreign
investment in oil exploration, extraction, refinement and distribution. That may well mark the fundamental change that might
finally allow Mexico to invest in bringing itself up by its own boot straps to join the modern nations of the world. I hope so. We
spent many wonderful winters in central Mexico during our full timing days in the rolling condo. Never felt the slightest
discomfort and never saw any evidence of corruption or danger to tourists. One would never go outside the Zona Rosa in Mexico City
after dark any more that one would go most places in Chicago day or night these days, but that is true of most all big cities around
the world. We heard lots of stories about the banditos coming out of the hills a robbing tourists, but none of them ever checked
out as being anything but stories.
The rise of the drug cartels changed everything for the worst in the border towns and for the senior people in government, education
and industry as they became targets. Rival gangs shoot it out to control transportation points. The fact that the Federal
government is now stepping in willing to take on anyone I see as a good sign. Would I like to be in the cross fire? No. But from
our experience that is very unlikely. A tourist has nothing of value remotely in the same magnitude as a drug dealer or transport
hub so the really bad guys don't want the exposure of hassling anyone but the wealthiest. Small time crooks there are just like
they are here so the risks are about the same.
A couple of our sons regularly surf the west coast of Mexico along with a whole bunch of surfers from around the world. While there
is a lot of drug trafficing in the states of Michoacan, Colima, Jalisco, Nayarit and Sinaloa, (it is new in the state of Sonora with
many of the other access points now sealed off), they have never seen any evidence of bad guys or dealers going after the surfers.
My take anyway.
Jerry
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED headlights [message #233701 is a reply to message #233638] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 14:24 |
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I agree.
Now - I removed a set of single element discharge lights from the new used toad. The had only 1 beam. Got a nice potted power sullpy, relay, and harness. Fortunately, the old baskets n bnulbs came in the spares - it's night driveable now.
They're square, but double beam sized refletors and stock Ranger baskets. High beams on do it yourself quad bulbs?
--johnny
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From: Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LED headlights
G'day,
Might as well add my $.02 to this discussion.
IMO the only way the drug problem will be resolved is when they are all de-criminalized regulated and taxed. The BILLIONS that are
spent on trying to combat this problem and the taxes collected could be added to government coffers and put to better use than a
fruitless battle.
Prohibition is a perfect example of this.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Work Jerry
Well stated, Larry.
I have had the opportunity to do a lot of business in Mexico in the past interacting with many of the most highly placed officials
in the government, industry and education. On one occasion we hosted a dinner party in our back yard over looking the Columbia
river. That party included the current or former ministers of nearly all their cabinet level positions, the President of UNAM (the
largest university in the Americas and perhaps the world at 250,000 students), the head of the national lab part of PEMEX (the state
owned national oil company), and the presidents of several of the largest industrial firms. Seemingly fine, well meaning gentlemen
all.
One major impediment standing in the way of modernizing their country, and openly derided by all these gentlemen, was the monopoly
on oil given to Pemex by a socialist government decades ago. Pemex itself became a bureaucratic nightmare of political patronage.
The money that was supposed to go to "the people" to modernize Mexico never got there, nor was it reinvested in infrastructure as it
was by law supposed to. As a result, one of the largest oil producers on earth stagnated in the 50s, the fields became
non-productive, pollution in the Tobasco region, especially along the Veracruz coast line, became significant.
Just in the last two weeks the Federal government changed the law removing the oil monopoly from Pemex and allowing foreign
investment in oil exploration, extraction, refinement and distribution. That may well mark the fundamental change that might
finally allow Mexico to invest in bringing itself up by its own boot straps to join the modern nations of the world. I hope so. We
spent many wonderful winters in central Mexico during our full timing days in the rolling condo. Never felt the slightest
discomfort and never saw any evidence of corruption or danger to tourists. One would never go outside the Zona Rosa in Mexico City
after dark any more that one would go most places in Chicago day or night these days, but that is true of most all big cities around
the world. We heard lots of stories about the banditos coming out of the hills a robbing tourists, but none of them ever checked
out as being anything but stories.
The rise of the drug cartels changed everything for the worst in the border towns and for the senior people in government, education
and industry as they became targets. Rival gangs shoot it out to control transportation points. The fact that the Federal
government is now stepping in willing to take on anyone I see as a good sign. Would I like to be in the cross fire? No. But from
our experience that is very unlikely. A tourist has nothing of value remotely in the same magnitude as a drug dealer or transport
hub so the really bad guys don't want the exposure of hassling anyone but the wealthiest. Small time crooks there are just like
they are here so the risks are about the same.
A couple of our sons regularly surf the west coast of Mexico along with a whole bunch of surfers from around the world. While there
is a lot of drug trafficing in the states of Michoacan, Colima, Jalisco, Nayarit and Sinaloa, (it is new in the state of Sonora with
many of the other access points now sealed off), they have never seen any evidence of bad guys or dealers going after the surfers.
My take anyway.
Jerry
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED headlights [message #233709 is a reply to message #233701] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 16:50 |
Kingsley Coach
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Glad to see we're back on topic.
Keep in mind, that if there wasn't an eager market for drugs, there
wouldn't be any Cartel. Considering the flow direction, perhaps we should
look at the buyers and not the sellers.
TWIT
Mike in NS
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> I agree.
>
> Now - I removed a set of single element discharge lights from the new used
> toad. The had only 1 beam. Got a nice potted power sullpy, relay, and
> harness. Fortunately, the old baskets n bnulbs came in the spares - it's
> night driveable now.
> They're square, but double beam sized refletors and stock Ranger baskets.
> High beams on do it yourself quad bulbs?
>
> --johnny
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> From: Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LED headlights
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> G'day,
>
> Might as well add my $.02 to this discussion.
>
> IMO the only way the drug problem will be resolved is when they are all
> de-criminalized regulated and taxed. The BILLIONS that are
> spent on trying to combat this problem and the taxes collected could be
> added to government coffers and put to better use than a
> fruitless battle.
>
> Prohibition is a perfect example of this.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Work Jerry
>
>
> Well stated, Larry.
>
> I have had the opportunity to do a lot of business in Mexico in the past
> interacting with many of the most highly placed officials
> in the government, industry and education. On one occasion we hosted a
> dinner party in our back yard over looking the Columbia
> river. That party included the current or former ministers of nearly all
> their cabinet level positions, the President of UNAM (the
> largest university in the Americas and perhaps the world at 250,000
> students), the head of the national lab part of PEMEX (the state
> owned national oil company), and the presidents of several of the largest
> industrial firms. Seemingly fine, well meaning gentlemen
> all.
>
> One major impediment standing in the way of modernizing their country, and
> openly derided by all these gentlemen, was the monopoly
> on oil given to Pemex by a socialist government decades ago. Pemex itself
> became a bureaucratic nightmare of political patronage.
> The money that was supposed to go to "the people" to modernize Mexico
> never got there, nor was it reinvested in infrastructure as it
> was by law supposed to. As a result, one of the largest oil producers on
> earth stagnated in the 50s, the fields became
> non-productive, pollution in the Tobasco region, especially along the
> Veracruz coast line, became significant.
>
> Just in the last two weeks the Federal government changed the law removing
> the oil monopoly from Pemex and allowing foreign
> investment in oil exploration, extraction, refinement and distribution.
> That may well mark the fundamental change that might
> finally allow Mexico to invest in bringing itself up by its own boot
> straps to join the modern nations of the world. I hope so. We
> spent many wonderful winters in central Mexico during our full timing days
> in the rolling condo. Never felt the slightest
> discomfort and never saw any evidence of corruption or danger to
> tourists. One would never go outside the Zona Rosa in Mexico City
> after dark any more that one would go most places in Chicago day or night
> these days, but that is true of most all big cities around
> the world. We heard lots of stories about the banditos coming out of the
> hills a robbing tourists, but none of them ever checked
> out as being anything but stories.
>
> The rise of the drug cartels changed everything for the worst in the
> border towns and for the senior people in government, education
> and industry as they became targets. Rival gangs shoot it out to control
> transportation points. The fact that the Federal
> government is now stepping in willing to take on anyone I see as a good
> sign. Would I like to be in the cross fire? No. But from
> our experience that is very unlikely. A tourist has nothing of value
> remotely in the same magnitude as a drug dealer or transport
> hub so the really bad guys don't want the exposure of hassling anyone but
> the wealthiest. Small time crooks there are just like
> they are here so the risks are about the same.
>
> A couple of our sons regularly surf the west coast of Mexico along with a
> whole bunch of surfers from around the world. While there
> is a lot of drug trafficing in the states of Michoacan, Colima, Jalisco,
> Nayarit and Sinaloa, (it is new in the state of Sonora with
> many of the other access points now sealed off), they have never seen any
> evidence of bad guys or dealers going after the surfers.
>
> My take anyway.
>
> Jerry
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED headlights [message #233719 is a reply to message #233712] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 19:14 |
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Sometimes I wish Lorraine would put a sock in my mouth ! In this case,
pull the plug on my computer... and there are a few users north of the 49th
as well !
Shows how much he knows ! <g>
Mike in NS
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Mike,
>
> That's what the Mexican President did; he blamed the problems on the drug
> taking Gringos in the USA!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kingsley Coach
>
> Glad to see we're back on topic.
> Keep in mind, that if there wasn't an eager market for drugs, there
> wouldn't be any Cartel. Considering the flow direction, perhaps
> we should look at the buyers and not the sellers.
>
> TWIT
>
> Mike in NS
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