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Mon, 16 December 2013 15:17  |
Ken Burton
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I ordered 10 RJ45 adapters for a total cost of $6.12 including shipping from Mainland China. The USPS mail lady just knocked on my door with them a few minutes ago. They arrived by registered mail today exactly 6 calendar days later. I had to sign for them.
How is it that I can order something out of China have it flown halfway around the world, go through customs, and still get here quicker and cheaper than a UPS package from California?
BTW, the USPS tracking has greatly improved. I can now see every arrival and departure scan along the way just like UPS or Fed-EX and they will now email you on every update. I also used the same tracking number assigned by the origination foreign post office (China Post) when looking at the USPS tracking. I have another package coming out of Singapore that I'm tracking. We will see how it does.
See the government can do some things right. It just takes years for them to learn from others in the business how to do it right.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: How do they do this? [message #233234 is a reply to message #233224] |
Mon, 16 December 2013 16:26  |
Chr$
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They ship them bulk, You probably placed your order just when an air container was full of 100's of other little packets like yours, it made it into that container, and took a 747 over here the same day or next. That container probably all contained "toys," "gifts", or "Samples" (whatever is on the customs sticker on your packet) and cleared customs in CHINA BEFORE it went on the plane or WHILE it was in the AIR. If you do your docs right, this is the way it should work.
A day or two after the oppressed factory worker in China sealed your package, the entire container landed in LAX or SFO and went directly to the USPS. They then had 4 days to get it to you. If your package didn't hit the end of the load, but the beginning, it could have been a week or more longer.
THAT is how THAT works.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
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| Re: How do they do this? [message #233235 is a reply to message #233224] |
Mon, 16 December 2013 16:30 |
kerry pinkerton
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I've had the same experience. I have this swiss made machine that has a Italian emergency off switch. It sits in a cast hole and only that particular switch will fit. I can order it from Grainger for 60 bucks...take 2 weeks to come in. On a lark, I looked up the part number on Ebay. The EXACT part $5.95 DELIVERED from China....delivered in less than a week. SIX FREAKING BUCKS DELIVERED. Heck, I can't mail an empty envelope to China for $6.00.
I assume there is this big "AMAZON" type warehouse that has a container reserved on CHINA AIR to the left coast every day and arrangement with the customs offices. I can't think of any other way this can work.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: How do they do this? [message #233240 is a reply to message #233224] |
Mon, 16 December 2013 16:43 |
Chr$
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Yeah, you are most likely paying 2nd class postage from the Port in the US to your door only. The supplier has a regular contract on the space on the plane, so it is pennies for that part of the journey and is Overhead cost.
Whey you send that empty envelope to China, you are paying both our and their post office plus customs to do the work.
I buy a lot of LED stuff from China. $7 for a 5 meter roll of LED's shipped, when a 5 inch section of that same stuff at Autozone is 20 bucks. But it is also consumer packaged, most likely here in the US. On that note, I spoke to a guy on a plane that said repackaging consumer products here is huge. China still cannot seem to get cardboard and printed materials right, so the consumer gets a product in a package that probably cost as much as the product itself.
Oh, regarding my first post about this, when I meant beginning of the load, I meant the NEXT load, and that extra time is on their end. USPS should always be about 4 days or less for a packet like that. They are pretty good. Yes they have learned from FEDUP and they are really not the Fed, but a private company overseen and managed by the Fed at arms length. They also use Fedex to move air mail now instead of the airlines. That helps A LOT, and some Fedex stuff comes via USPS now. Strange bedfellows.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: How do they do this? [message #233261 is a reply to message #233240] |
Mon, 16 December 2013 19:12 |
Ken Burton
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The customs / shipping tag is bi-lingual and says it was shipped by China Post. I cannot read most of it other than "by AIR MAIL" in two places and the sender was CIFANG. The origination city is not listed in English. The interesting thing is it arrived in the US in Flushing, NY.
My question was how do you ship this "registered" mail "signature required" and deliver it in 6 days with a total cost for the 10 items and shipping of $6.12 . They were sold in a minimum quantity of 5 for $3.06 . Total weight of this package is .130 KG or 4.6 oz.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do they do this? [message #233266 is a reply to message #233261] |
Mon, 16 December 2013 19:57 |
Ken Henderson
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You want a real shocker about the inequity of our international mail
agreements, go to this USPS rate calculation site and check out the cost
to ship that $3.06, 4.6 oz package TO Hong Kong:
http://ircalc.usps.com/Default.aspx?country=10189&MailingDate=12/17/2013&MailingTime=8:00%20AM
I never found a cost less than $40+!
Is it any wonder we have an absurd trade deficit?
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> The customs / shipping tag is bi-lingual and says it was shipped by China
> Post. I cannot read most of it other than "by AIR MAIL" in two places and
> the sender was CIFANG. The origination city is not listed in English. The
> interesting thing is it arrived in the US in Flushing, NY.
>
> My question was how do you ship this "registered" mail "signature
> required" and deliver it in 6 days with a total cost for the 10 items and
> shipping of $6.12 . They were sold in a minimum quantity of 5 for $3.06 .
> Total weight of this package is .130 KG or 4.6 oz.
>
>
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| Re: How do they do this? [message #233270 is a reply to message #233240] |
Mon, 16 December 2013 20:20 |
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I've had UPS give my packages to the USPS and then declared them delivered on the tracking...and I have no package! WTH is it? It's downtown in the post office getting a note written about to be put in my mailbox the next day telling me to come down there to sign for it! What a PITA.
Terry Kelpien
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do they do this? [message #233271 is a reply to message #233266] |
Mon, 16 December 2013 20:21 |
Ken Burton
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Mon, 16 December 2013 19:57 |
You want a real shocker about the inequity of our international mail
agreements, go to this USPS rate calculation site and check out the cost
to ship that $3.06, 4.6 oz package TO Hong Kong:
http://ircalc.usps.com/Default.aspx?country=10189&MailingDate=12/17/2013&MailingTime=8:00%20AM
I never found a cost less than $40+!
Is it any wonder we have an absurd trade deficit?
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> The customs / shipping tag is bi-lingual and says it was shipped by China
> Post. I cannot read most of it other than "by AIR MAIL" in two places and
> the sender was CIFANG. The origination city is not listed in English. The
> interesting thing is it arrived in the US in Flushing, NY.
>
> My question was how do you ship this "registered" mail "signature
> required" and deliver it in 6 days with a total cost for the 10 items and
> shipping of $6.12 . They were sold in a minimum quantity of 5 for $3.06 .
> Total weight of this package is .130 KG or 4.6 oz.
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I'm thinking that the rates are set by the originating country and the receiving country gets nothing for delivering it. That is the way long distance telephone rates use to be. I assume they are still the same. This is just a guess but if China set the rates for all outbound mail then China is effectively subsidizing their companies' costs of mailing product overseas.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do they do this? [message #233324 is a reply to message #233271] |
Tue, 17 December 2013 11:07 |
Ronald Pottol
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With phone service, it's set by the originator, but I think they split the
money. Thus callback services for places with crazy phone rates.
Plato seems wrong to me today.
On Dec 16, 2013 6:21 PM, "Ken Burton" <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Mon, 16 December 2013 19:57
> > You want a real shocker about the inequity of our international mail
> > agreements, go to this USPS rate calculation site and check out the cost
> > to ship that $3.06, 4.6 oz package TO Hong Kong:
> >
> >
> http://ircalc.usps.com/Default.aspx?country=10189&MailingDate=12/17/2013&MailingTime=8:00%20AM
> >
> > I never found a cost less than $40+!
> >
> > Is it any wonder we have an absurd trade deficit?
> >
> > Ken H.
> > Americus, GA
> > '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL
> > www.gmcwipersetc.com
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > The customs / shipping tag is bi-lingual and says it was shipped by
> China
> > > Post. I cannot read most of it other than "by AIR MAIL" in two places
> and
> > > the sender was CIFANG. The origination city is not listed in English.
> The
> > > interesting thing is it arrived in the US in Flushing, NY.
> > >
> > > My question was how do you ship this "registered" mail "signature
> > > required" and deliver it in 6 days with a total cost for the 10 items
> and
> > > shipping of $6.12 . They were sold in a minimum quantity of 5 for
> $3.06 .
> > > Total weight of this package is .130 KG or 4.6 oz.
>
>
> I'm thinking that the rates are set by the originating country and the
> receiving country gets nothing for delivering it. That is the way long
> distance telephone rates use to be. I assume they are still the same.
> This is just a guess but if China set the rates for all outbound mail then
> China is effectively subsidizing their companies' costs of mailing product
> overseas.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: How do they do this? [message #233383 is a reply to message #233261] |
Wed, 18 December 2013 07:19 |
Ken Burton
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The second item I'm expecting from China was processed through US customs in Indianapolis last night. It was released to USPS at 11:15 PM. It left there left Indy sometime after midnight headed this way. Only the date is shown with no time.
I do not understand Chinese goods clearing customs in Indianapolis or the other one in Flushing, NY.
Oh well, I should have it tomorrow.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do they do this? [message #233423 is a reply to message #233386] |
Wed, 18 December 2013 17:46 |
dwayne jacobson[1]
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Hear
A talk show where a govt postal rep was asked this question. How can it
b7e done so cheap. The govt in china subsidizes the shipping. When it hits
our post office there is a cost involved to deliver the goods and that
charge is made against the chinese postal system. This is regarding postal
delivery.
Dwayne
White rock
77 kingsley with 99% north american made
dwayne j
On 2013-12-18 6:48 AM, "Kerry Pinkerton" <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com> wrote:
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> I expect there is a bonded type shipping facility that has assured the
> Customs there is no contraband in the container. They obviously have a
> quantity discount with the USPS...probably on the premise that no one at a
> local post office will have to handle it...that is, it goes straight to the
> USPS distribution center.
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> Given we're dealing with a Government mindset, they probably have the
> attitude "Yeah, we're losing money on each package but we will make it up
> in volume..." 8o 8o 8o 8o :lol:
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> Just another government subsidy that weakens our balance of trade. It
> gets harder and harder to buy American every day and most of that we've
> done to ourselves.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do they do this? [message #233518 is a reply to message #233423] |
Thu, 19 December 2013 18:37 |
Keith V
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I orders 5 adjustable 3 amp switching power supplies for $1.49 each.
They arrived about a week later in an envelope that said postage 0.00 ...
They even work!
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
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