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| THE BIG "C" [message #231441] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 20:11  |
Michael Bozardt
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Just learned of Dan Gregg having cancer and I am shocked, yet, encouraged. Why?
Al Carter in his book explained to me that cancer is a mutation of cells and that we all have cancer. You don't catch it or acquire it, but the immune system deals with it. When the immune system does not overcome it, we become ill with cancer.
We know of, let's see, four people healed of cancer, 3 from Lakewood Church in Houston, including Joel Osteen's mother, who in 1981 was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer. She just turned 80 and is healthy as can be, healed, not by the doctors but by God. Ditto for all the others and for Alan Childs for whom we are praying now. The other person healed is our niece in her 50's, mother of 10 children, 3 still at home. Just last week pronounced healed by her doctors. The thing all these people have in common besides cancer is a trust and faith in God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. If Jesus healed then, he can do it now. If he caused a blind since birth person to see, cancer is just a walk in the park for Jesus. Plus healing isn't hard, we only need to believe in the healer. Harder than it sounds when the worldly thoughts think otherwise. Of course, we want to include medicine and doctors in our process. We are modern people, not some Jesus freaks, as our kids call us. They don't get it though two of the four are coming around. We are glad that Dan and Teri believe as well as Terrie Lipscomb, Alan Childs, Dodie Osteen, the two other guys at Lakewood whose names I have forgotten and us and many of you who are praying for Dan. Where two or more are gathered in His name...........good things are bound to happen.
Michael and Irma Bozardt
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231448 is a reply to message #231441] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 20:38  |
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| Michael Bozardt wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 18:11 |
Just learned of Dan Gregg having cancer and I am shocked, yet, encouraged. Why?
Al Carter in his book explained to me that cancer is a mutation of cells and that we all have cancer. You don't catch it or acquire it, but the immune system deals with it. When the immune system does not overcome it, we become ill with cancer.
We know of, let's see, four people healed of cancer, 3 from Lakewood Church in Houston, including Joel Osteen's mother, who in 1981 was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer. She just turned 80 and is healthy as can be, healed, not by the doctors but by God. Ditto for all the others and for Alan Childs for whom we are praying now. The other person healed is our niece in her 50's, mother of 10 children, 3 still at home. Just last week pronounced healed by her doctors. The thing all these people have in common besides cancer is a trust and faith in God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. If Jesus healed then, he can do it now. If he caused a blind since birth person to see, cancer is just a walk in the park for Jesus. Plus healing isn't hard, we only need to believe in the healer. Harder than it sounds when the worldly thoughts think otherwise. Of course, we want to include medicine and doctors in our process. We are modern people, not some Jesus freaks, as our kids call us. They don't get it though two of the four are coming around. We are glad that Dan and Teri believe as well as Terrie Lipscomb, Alan Childs, Dodie Osteen, the two other guys at Lakewood whose names I have forgotten and us and many of you who are praying for Dan. Where two or more are gathered in His name...........good things are bound to happen.
Michael and Irma Bozardt
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This is not the forum for this sort of post.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: [GMCnet] THE BIG "C" [message #231452 is a reply to message #231441] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 21:00 |
Sandra Price
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Amen! Michael. We're some of the GMC believers who KNOW God answers our
prayers. Standing with you in prayer for your niece and a few other of our
GMC friends who are battling cancer or other illnesses: Dan Gregg, George
DelVeccio, Jim Beaton, Chuck Ellis, Bob Price plus others who are more
private about their illnesses.
Sandra and Bob Price
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
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From: Michael Bozardt <ilse@earth-comm.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 02:11:21 GMT+00:00
Subject: [GMCnet] THE BIG "C"
Just learned of Dan Gregg having cancer and I am shocked, yet, encouraged.
Why?
Al Carter in his book explained to me that cancer is a mutation of cells and
that we all have cancer. You don't catch it or acquire it, but the immune
system deals with it. When the immune system does not overcome it, we become
ill with cancer.
We know of, let's see, four people healed of cancer, 3 from Lakewood Church
in Houston, including Joel Osteen's mother, who in 1981 was diagnosed with
terminal liver cancer. She just turned 80 and is healthy as can be, healed,
not by the doctors but by God. Ditto for all the others and for Alan Childs
for whom we are praying now. The other person healed is our niece in her
50's, mother of 10 children, 3 still at home. Just last week pronounced
healed by her doctors. The thing all these people have in common besides
cancer is a trust and faith in God who is the same yesterday, today and
tomorrow. If Jesus healed then, he can do it now. If he caused a blind
since birth person to see, cancer is just a walk in the park for Jesus. Plus
healing isn't hard, we only need to believe in the healer. Harder than it
sounds when the worldly thoughts think otherwise. Of course, we want to
include medicine and doctors in our process. We are modern people, not some
Jesus freaks, as our
kids call us. They don't get it though two of the four are coming around.
We are glad that Dan and Teri believe as well as Terrie Lipscomb, Alan
Childs, Dodie Osteen, the two other guys at Lakewood whose names I have
forgotten and us and many of you who are praying for Dan. Where two or more
are gathered in His name...........good things are bound to happen.
Michael and Irma Bozardt
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231457 is a reply to message #231448] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 21:32 |
Ken Burton
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Any word of support for our GMC friend Dan Gregg is totally appropriate on this forum.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] THE BIG "C" [message #231459 is a reply to message #231448] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 21:40 |
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Hey David,
I'll tell you what the others are too nice to say won't:
PISS OFF!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of David Orders
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:39 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] THE BIG "C"
Michael Bozardt wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 18:11
> Just learned of Dan Gregg having cancer and I am shocked, yet, encouraged. Why?
> Al Carter in his book explained to me that cancer is a mutation of cells and that we all have cancer. You don't catch it or
acquire it, but the immune system deals with it. When the immune system does not overcome it, we become ill with cancer.
> We know of, let's see, four people healed of cancer, 3 from Lakewood Church in Houston, including Joel Osteen's mother, who in
1981 was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer. She just turned 80 and is healthy as can be, healed, not by the doctors but by God.
Ditto for all the others and for Alan Childs for whom we are praying now. The other person healed is our niece in her 50's, mother
of 10 children, 3 still at home. Just last week pronounced healed by her doctors. The thing all these people have in common besides
cancer is a trust and faith in God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. If Jesus healed then, he can do it now. If he
caused a blind since birth person to see, cancer is just a walk in the park for Jesus. Plus healing isn't hard, we only need to
believe in the healer. Harder than it sounds when the worldly thoughts think otherwise. Of course, we want to include medicine and
doctors in our process. We are modern people, not some Jesus freaks, as ou
r kids call us. They don't get it though two of the four are coming around. We are glad that Dan and Teri believe as well as Terrie
Lipscomb, Alan Childs, Dodie Osteen, the two other guys at Lakewood whose names I have forgotten and us and many of you who are
praying for Dan. Where two or more are gathered in His name...........good things are bound to happen.
> Michael and Irma Bozardt
This is not the forum for this sort of post.
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231467 is a reply to message #231457] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 22:03 |
Ken Burton
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| Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 21:32 |
Any word of support for our GMC friend Dan Gregg is totally appropriate on this forum.
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The longer I sat here the more angry I got. I tempered my response and I'll temper this one.
If you can't participate in a positive way in our support for Dan, then stay the hell out of the thread.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231471 is a reply to message #231467] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 22:51 |
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I made a simple statement regarding the content of the topic. I didn't disrespect anyone, and I didn't say anything negative about the post. I didn't question anyone's beliefs, or tell them not to pray.
That is more than I can say about some the the replies.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231473 is a reply to message #231471] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 23:19 |
Ken Burton
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| Otterwan wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 22:51 |
I made a simple statement regarding the content of the topic. I didn't disrespect anyone, and I didn't say anything negative about the post. I didn't question anyone's beliefs, or tell them not to pray.
That is more than I can say about some the the replies.
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I normally stay out of most arguments here but this one really pissed mt off. He is a cut and paste of your statement"
This is not the forum for this sort of post.
As I said before if you cannot participate on this topic in a positive manner in support of Dan, then simply stay the hell out of the thread.
It is DEFINITELY APPROPRIATE for us to support my friend Dan. Over the years you probably seen a lot of teasing go back and forth between me and Dan. It was primarily me teasing Dan. In was all in fun. We are friends and now is not the time for this activity or any other negative negative things to be posted on this topic.
At the least, your posting showed poor just judgement.
I've had my say.
Just stay out of the thread.
I'll probably cool down tomorrow.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231475 is a reply to message #231448] |
Tue, 26 November 2013 23:40 |
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| Otterwan wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 19:38 |
| Michael Bozardt wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 18:11 |
Just learned of Dan Gregg having cancer and I am shocked, yet, encouraged. Why?
Al Carter in his book explained to me that cancer is a mutation of cells and that we all have cancer. You don't catch it or acquire it, but the immune system deals with it. When the immune system does not overcome it, we become ill with cancer.
We know of, let's see, four people healed of cancer, 3 from Lakewood Church in Houston, including Joel Osteen's mother, who in 1981 was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer. She just turned 80 and is healthy as can be, healed, not by the doctors but by God. Ditto for all the others and for Alan Childs for whom we are praying now. The other person healed is our niece in her 50's, mother of 10 children, 3 still at home. Just last week pronounced healed by her doctors. The thing all these people have in common besides cancer is a trust and faith in God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. If Jesus healed then, he can do it now. If he caused a blind since birth person to see, cancer is just a walk in the park for Jesus. Plus healing isn't hard, we only need to believe in the healer. Harder than it sounds when the worldly thoughts think otherwise. Of course, we want to include medicine and doctors in our process. We are modern people, not some Jesus freaks, as our kids call us. They don't get it though two of the four are coming around. We are glad that Dan and Teri believe as well as Terrie Lipscomb, Alan Childs, Dodie Osteen, the two other guys at Lakewood whose names I have forgotten and us and many of you who are praying for Dan. Where two or more are gathered in His name...........good things are bound to happen.
Michael and Irma Bozardt
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You know--I'm totally with Ottarwan on this. The replies to his comment are drastically more ignorant than people accuse of him. There isn't a day that I don't think of Dan and Terri, but in my case I don't feel like I need to flaunt the prayer and the Lord thing. I feel it is totally inapproprite and the taglines behind the signatures should not be allowed on this nor any forum. I respect all of you and even though I haven't met most of you, I considered many of you my friend, but I'm as pissed off as many of you, but in this case I'm pissed off at those that are too ignorant to understand that religeous beliefs have no relationship to how many of us feel and respect others. Your closed minds are offensive to me and frankly, I'm done with all of you after reading your replies. I'm erasing the link to the GMCnet and will practice my love and respect for others in my own way.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231476 is a reply to message #231441] |
Wed, 27 November 2013 00:02 |
Otterwan
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| Michael Bozardt wrote on Tue, 26 November 2013 18:11 |
Just learned of Dan Gregg having cancer and I am shocked, yet, encouraged. Why?
Al Carter in his book explained to me that cancer is a mutation of cells and that we all have cancer. You don't catch it or acquire it, but the immune system deals with it. When the immune system does not overcome it, we become ill with cancer.
We know of, let's see, four people healed of cancer, 3 from Lakewood Church in Houston, including Joel Osteen's mother, who in 1981 was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer. She just turned 80 and is healthy as can be, healed, not by the doctors but by God. Ditto for all the others and for Alan Childs for whom we are praying now. The other person healed is our niece in her 50's, mother of 10 children, 3 still at home. Just last week pronounced healed by her doctors. The thing all these people have in common besides cancer is a trust and faith in God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. If Jesus healed then, he can do it now. If he caused a blind since birth person to see, cancer is just a walk in the park for Jesus. Plus healing isn't hard, we only need to believe in the healer. Harder than it sounds when the worldly thoughts think otherwise. Of course, we want to include medicine and doctors in our process. We are modern people, not some Jesus freaks, as our kids call us. They don't get it though two of the four are coming around. We are glad that Dan and Teri believe as well as Terrie Lipscomb, Alan Childs, Dodie Osteen, the two other guys at Lakewood whose names I have forgotten and us and many of you who are praying for Dan. Where two or more are gathered in His name...........good things are bound to happen.
Michael and Irma Bozardt
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Ken - I mean no offense to anyone, but this post is not about supporting Dan (which of course I do). This post is about religion, faith healing, biblical miracles, converting people, etc. In fact, after the first line, there is virtually nothing in this post of relevance to supporting Dan or anything else, just a bunch of bible thumping which again I say has no place in this forum. Perhaps I am in the minority on this, but I would bet if I wrote a post asking Allah or Vishnu or Thor or Odin or Gandalf for support, the response would be quite different.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231479 is a reply to message #231476] |
Wed, 27 November 2013 01:21 |
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This may not be the place but it is the place. I think any time you bring religion or politics into a social discussion offense will be taken when none was intended. I delete 90% of what arrives in my inbox by a quick topic scan as I am sure many others do. I suggest everyone think a little more before posting when emotions in a thread run high. I mean maybe this isn't the place for a heavy religious post but for crying out loud one of our long time members with extensive contacts within the group is wrestling with the grim reaper ( or death or judgement day what the fuck ever you want to call it). The remark about whether this post is relevant is just not smart. Forget right and wrong how about some tact. Be smart y'all
Sully
77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] THE BIG "C" [message #231482 is a reply to message #231476] |
Wed, 27 November 2013 06:06 |
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Excellent spin!
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: David Orders
Ken - I mean no offense to anyone, but this post is not about supporting Dan (which of course I do). This post is about religion,
faith healing, biblical miracles, converting people, etc. In fact, after the first line, there is virtually nothing in this post of
relevance to supporting Dan or anything else, just a bunch of bible thumping which again I say has no place in this forum. Perhaps I
am in the minority on this, but I would bet if I wrote post asking Allah or Vishnu or Thor or Odin or Gandalf for support, the
response would be quite different.
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| Re: THE BIG "C" [message #231490 is a reply to message #231441] |
Wed, 27 November 2013 08:12 |
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This isn't a place to argue personal beliefs. It should just be a place for friends with some common bonding interests to support each other in easy times and tough times. We support each other whether the Suburban furnace has a glitch or if our internal metabolic biochemical furnaces are not running as they should.
John Lebetski
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