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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229524] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 13:16 |
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hnielsen2
Messages: 1434 Registered: February 2004 Location: Alpine CA
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Jake
Same here
We have our home on the market.
Looking to move to be closer to our daughter in Henderson Nv or Kingman Az.
We are retired no need to deal with California.
We own a 1950 Chevy pickup hot rod
The fees this year where $139.00 for one year.
Yes we get charged a weight fee.
At a car show this weekend met a guy from Texas his fees on his 55 Chevy was $60.00 for five years.
Just one more reason to move.
The state of California is slowly killing the Golden Goose.
Thanks
Howard
Alpine Ca
All is well with my Lord
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:53, "Jake Reed" <gmcnet@sheetmetaleng.com> wrote:
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> Howard,
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> Reading your response all I can think of is a matter of perspective. I
> know I hate living in California but have to for my business. I know when I
> retire and leave I will never come back and I hate to pay the higher taxes
> here. Different place, similar story much different perspective.
>
> Jake
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> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard Nielsen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation
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> Jake
> Good question.
> I really don't know.
> My dad said he would never go back to live in Denmark only to visited.
> I can only address how our family has prospered here in the USA.
> Our cousins think we are all rich.
> Not so we are all blessed to live and grow up here in the USA.
> I have a step sister in Denmark who's guy deals in cash as much as possible.
> He hates to pay the high tax.
> Howard
> Alpine Ca
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> All is well with my Lord
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>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:50, "Jake Reed" <gmcnet@sheetmetaleng.com> wrote:
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>> Howard,
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>> Does Denmark still operate in the same manner as the post WWII
>> Denmark? I am only familiar with the current state their because of a
>> couple of customers I have located in Denmark. Is the information I
>> am getting from them incorrect? One of them is an F1 team I get to
>> see state side several times a year and spending time with them off
>> hours I would say they are conservative in their thinking. They feel
>> they have a fairly low tax situation there.
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard Nielsen
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:29 AM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation
>>
>> I'm here from Denmark
>> Because my folks could not deal with the taxes in Denmark.
>> We arrived here in the US on the first ship out of Denmark after WWII
>> in
>> 1946 Folks did well here.
>> Starting out with $75.00 and building a tree service business and
>> avocado tree nursery.
>> All six of us kids are doing well.
>> Howard
>> Alpine Ca
>> All is well with my Lord
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:19, "Jake Reed" <gmcnet@sheetmetaleng.com> wrote:
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>>> Appie,
>>>
>>> It's not socialism the way you're government does it. It's actually
>>> a unique approach a bit. They have a tax or regulatory fee that is
>>> added to a number of industries. The largest is oil drilling. What
>>> they have been smart about is they have not gotten greedy and they
>>> have not raided it for anything else (to my knowledge) other than
>>> healthcare. So far it is a system that works well as long as the
>> resources hold out.
>>>
>>> Jake
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of lenze
>>> middelberg
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:58 AM
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ofcourse your right it's not for free, we share our wealth Now I do
>>> not want to start a political discussion here, and I know this is a
>>> hot subject in the US, but everybody in Denmark gets the medical
>>> treatment they need regardless of personal wealth and everybody can
>>> get the education that fits their abillitys Is the socialsme? i don't
>>> know. But I like it
>>> --
>>> Appie
>>> eleganza 76 "Olga" ( pictures at
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/101021920836990233644/GMCMHOlga02)
>>> Volvo v70
>>> Denmark
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229545 is a reply to message #229524] |
Tue, 12 November 2013 14:54 |
tphipps
Messages: 3005 Registered: August 2004 Location: Spanish Fort, AL
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In Virginia, that truck would be $50 for life, as an antique vehicle. No smog inspection or physical inspection. Just have to own a "daily runner.". Antiques in Va have rules to follow. My 2 GMCs that were registered there were both antiques and that did not stop my usage in any way.
In Mississippi, the fee is $40 for life, without any usage rules. Antique registered vehicles are all over the streets. Some look like they missed out on Cash for Clunkers. Very scary. Mississippi has an ineffective inspection system.
California loves your cash, no doubt about it.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229630 is a reply to message #229626] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 02:53 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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My Indiana GMC is $26.00 per year.
I do not have antique vehicle plates.
Gas was $2.80 per gallon on my way home tonight.
Diesel was $3.79.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229639 is a reply to message #229626] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 06:46 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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Not a bad deal.
My coach cost me I think about $90 US in tax/tag fees. Under 300 to insure (Liability only, I self insure for loss). My Rich Uncle gives me 2200 a month for paying social security taxes all those years, and another 580 for being a FANG for 22 years. I can exist on that if I have to, since I work I can run my GMC. I haven't drawn on my commercial retirement money, at age 72 I will have to.
--johnny
From: lenze middelberg <lenze@middelberg.dk>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation
Ok guys hold on:
Just payed import taxes on Olga DKK 17000=USD 3000 ( remember? she is german)
Roadtax (yearly)DKK5000 =usd 900 ( special rate for classic)
Insurence yearly (all risk) dkk 7000= usd 1260
But I do not put money away for my grandchildrens education, nor worry about healthbills
And the state gives me dkk 10.000 everymonth becourse the doctor says I should not work anymore
Is that a bad deal ?
Luvn737s wrote on Tue, 12 November 2013 23:53
> Dang it, Jerry Brown was hoping you'd be the last guy left to pay all the taxes. You would have even gotten a dozen roses and a teddy bear just for staying. :o
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Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" ( pictures at https://picasaweb.google.com/101021920836990233644/GMCMHOlga02)
Volvo v70
Denmark
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229640 is a reply to message #229524] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 06:56 |
rcjordan
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Property taxes here in NC are $28/yr. IIRC, I paid about $150 (one-time fee) for the sales tax when I titled the coach here. Liability insurance is around $310/yr. I also self-insure.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229660 is a reply to message #229524] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 09:06 |
rcjordan
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>what EXACTLY does "self-insure" mean ?
I cover my own losses. No insurance from 3rd parties.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229661 is a reply to message #229659] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 09:18 |
sgltrac
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Mike, I believe to self insure you assume the financial risk. If you self insure for theft then you have whatever premium payments you would have made to offset the cost of a theft loss
Todd Sullivan
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
> On Nov 13, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've heard the term 3 times in my life. Now I have to ask, what EXACTLY
> does "self-insure" mean ?
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> Mike in NS
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>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:56 AM, RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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>> Property taxes here in NC are $28/yr. IIRC, I paid about $150 (one-time
>> fee) for the sales tax when I titled the coach here. Liability insurance
>> is around $310. I also self-insure.
>> --
>> 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
>> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229699 is a reply to message #229660] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 11:39 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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It means I have sufficient assets set by to cover repairs or replacement, should I stuff the coach into a bridge abutment.
--johnny
'76 23 transmode norris
From: RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation
>what EXACTLY does "self-insure" mean ?
I cover my own losses. No insurance from 3rd parties.
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76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229702 is a reply to message #229699] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 11:57 |
James Hupy
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In Oregon, I believe they call that "Uninsured Motorist". No state
requirement for Comprehensive insurance, but Liability and property Damage
is mandatory to protect other's losses. If you still have payments on the
vehicle, you must carry comprehensive to cover the lender's potential
losses.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> It means I have sufficient assets set by to cover repairs or replacement,
> should I stuff the coach into a bridge abutment.
>
> --johnny
> '76 23 transmode norris
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> From: RC Jordan <rc@rcjordan.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation
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> >what EXACTLY does "self-insure" mean ?
>
> I cover my own losses. No insurance from 3rd parties.
> --
> 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229710 is a reply to message #229524] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 13:38 |
rcjordan
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>No state requirement for Comprehensive insurance, but Liability and property Damage is mandatory to protect other's losses.
Right. But if you're self-insuring you have to look at **ALL** your insurable assets as the pool and calculate how much you have banked. It's scary to look at any one item and think about it alone, you have to spread your risks.
> Comprehensive
Someone once told me that you should only buy insurance if it's "guaranteed to break" so, using that rule I DO buy comprehensive on my wife's car because I guarantee she's going to chip/crack the windshield.
>If you still have payments on the vehicle, you must carry comprehensive to cover the lender's potential losses.
Yeah, and on your homeowner's insurance you are therefore buying fire insurance on the lot. Since when does dirt burn?
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229712 is a reply to message #229710] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 14:12 |
James Hupy
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Hmmm, I wonder if the predecessors to the GMC, the pioneers in the covered
wagons, had comp & liability against attacks by wolves, prairie fires,
buffalo stampedes, mauraders and stuff like that? Nah, they just had faith
in their abilities and, Oh Yeah, I almost forgot, that trusty Winchester
Repeating Rifle. Insurance, we don' need no stinkin' insurance!
VERY BIG GRIN
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or (near Independence, Or. the west end of the Oregon Trail)
78 GMC Royale 403. Maybe we will call it the PRAIRIE SCHOONER? What do you
think?
On Nov 13, 2013 11:38 AM, "RC Jordan" <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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> >No state requirement for Comprehensive insurance, but Liability and
> property Damage is mandatory to protect other's losses.
>
> Right. But if you're self-insuring you have to look at **ALL** your
> insurable assets as the pool and calculate how much you have banked. It's
> scary to look at any one item and think about it alone, you have to spread
> your risks.
>
> > Comprehensive
>
> Someone once told me that you should only buy insurance if it's
> "guaranteed to break" so, using that rule I DO buy comprehensive on my
> wife's car because I guarantee she's going to chip/crack the windshield.
>
> >If you still have payments on the vehicle, you must carry comprehensive
> to cover the lender's potential losses.
>
> Yeah, and on your homeowner's insurance you are therefore buying fire
> insurance on the lot. Since when does dirt burn?
> --
> 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229713 is a reply to message #229712] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 14:25 |
Jake Reed
Messages: 59 Registered: October 2013
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It's all fun and games until someone files a claim. As long as it's in
espanol. I am in California after all.
Jake
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Hmmm, I wonder if the predecessors to the GMC, the pioneers in the covered
wagons, had comp & liability against attacks by wolves, prairie fires,
buffalo stampedes, mauraders and stuff like that? Nah, they just had faith
in their abilities and, Oh Yeah, I almost forgot, that trusty Winchester
Repeating Rifle. Insurance, we don' need no stinkin' insurance!
VERY BIG GRIN
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or (near Independence, Or. the west end of the Oregon Trail)
78 GMC Royale 403. Maybe we will call it the PRAIRIE SCHOONER? What do you
think?
On Nov 13, 2013 11:38 AM, "RC Jordan" <rc@rcjordan.com> wrote:
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>
> >No state requirement for Comprehensive insurance, but Liability and
> property Damage is mandatory to protect other's losses.
>
> Right. But if you're self-insuring you have to look at **ALL** your
> insurable assets as the pool and calculate how much you have banked.
> It's scary to look at any one item and think about it alone, you have
> to spread your risks.
>
> > Comprehensive
>
> Someone once told me that you should only buy insurance if it's
> "guaranteed to break" so, using that rule I DO buy comprehensive on
> my wife's car because I guarantee she's going to chip/crack the
windshield.
>
> >If you still have payments on the vehicle, you must carry
> >comprehensive
> to cover the lender's potential losses.
>
> Yeah, and on your homeowner's insurance you are therefore buying fire
> insurance on the lot. Since when does dirt burn?
> --
> 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
>
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229714 is a reply to message #229524] |
Wed, 13 November 2013 14:33 |
rcjordan
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>pioneers
We have become a nation that cannot tolerate risk. If you don't believe it, then take a look at how cell phone contracts are sold. "OMG!! You *might* go over your limit one month so, to be safe, pay us *EXTRA* each-and-every month ad infinitum.
Or, how about this for that piece of junk, disposable appliance
Do you want insurance or extended warrantee? Only 10% more!! (And we know you won't keep the paperwork anyway.)
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
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Re: [GMCnet] The Cheapest Generation [message #229755 is a reply to message #229665] |
Thu, 14 November 2013 00:32 |
appie
Messages: 902 Registered: April 2013 Location: denmark
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Well Rob you have done your homework. I do understand your wondering, but this is not the place to go into details about my health situation You can be asured though that Danish doctors know their business as well as any other
I had to close down a quite sucsessfull small business for healthreasons and the state jumped in and allowed me a small pension to save me from getting ruined
Renovating a gmc for me is not work but a hobby. I can put in the hours I can, when I can. I can can go inside and drop on the couch when I need to without having to deal with deadlines or a boss
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
Denmark
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