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HIdaway table [message #229094] Sat, 09 November 2013 22:39 Go to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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I'm in the process of building the second twin bed for the front of our coach. Although we will be putting in a rear 'settee' with a table, we thought it would be nice to have a table up front also.

I was impressed by Ken Henderson's table and when he said that he really liked the one that Kelvin Dietz made, I went looking for Kelvin's album and subsequently got some info from Kelvin about how his was made.

At the end of the day however, I only used the concept of non-parallel arms in Kelvin's table. I wanted to put ours on a flat bed with different geometry. After some mockups and a bit of rework I'm pretty happy with it. It MIGHT be a bit too high but that is fairly easily changed. I have to get the mattress on the bed to determine that.

The album is http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6475-table.html

Anyway, this is where it is today....folded...the small vertical pieces of 1/2 plywood just mock up the front side of the bed:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_007.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_007.jpg

And open with something just screwed on for a test table surface:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_010.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_010.jpg

I still have to make a folding foot to hold it up...got a few ideas but need to have the exact working height determined first.

In addition to different geometry, the structure is made from 1x1x16ga steel tube. The bolts used for hinges are 3/8" and are in 1/2" steel tubing welded into the tube and reamed for the 3/8" bolts/all thread.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_006.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_006.jpg

If I build any more, I'll probably forgo the the tube and go with 14 gauge tubing and use washers to keep from collapsing the tube.

The whole bed frame and arm assembly, less any wood, weighs about 35 pounds. The sleeping platform will be 32" wide.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] HIdaway table [message #229095 is a reply to message #229094] Sat, 09 November 2013 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Pretty sweet Kerry! Makes me wish I had a horizontal propane tank shaped like an hourglass!


Todd Sullivan

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> On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm in the process of building the second twin bed for the front of our coach. Although we will be putting in a rear 'settee' with a table, we thought it would be nice to have a table up front also.
>
> I was impressed by Ken Henderson's table and when he said that he really liked the one that Kelvin Dietz made, I went looking for Kelvin's album and subsequently got some info from Kelvin about how his was made.
>
> At the end of the day however, I only used the concept of non-parallel arms in Kelvin's table. I wanted to put ours on a flat bed with different geometry. After some mockups and a bit of rework I'm pretty happy with it. It MIGHT be a bit too high but that is fairly easily changed. I have to get the mattress on the bed to determine that.
>
> The album is http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6475-table.html
>
> Anyway, this is where it is today....folded...the small vertical pieces of 1/2 plywood just mock up the front side of the bed:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_007.jpg
>
>
>
> And open with something just screwed on for a test table surface:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_010.jpg
>
>
>
> I still have to make a folding foot to hold it up...got a few ideas but need to have the exact working height determined first.
>
> In addition to different geometry, the structure is made from 1x1x16ga steel tube. The bolts used for hinges are 3/8" and are in 1/2" steel tubing welded into the tube and reamed for the 3/8" bolts/all thread.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6475/H_006.jpg
>
>
>
> If I build any more, I'll probably forgo the the tube and go with 14 gauge tubing and use washers to keep from collapsing the tube.
>
> The whole bed frame and arm assembly, less any wood, weighs about 35 pounds. The sleeping platform will be 32" wide.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
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Re: [GMCnet] HIdaway table [message #229106 is a reply to message #229094] Sun, 10 November 2013 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Kerry,

Great job! I knew you'd get right on it, but didn't expect this prompt a
prototype.

One feature of my table that Kelvin seemed to particularly like is the
sliding top. You may not remember that when erected, my top can be moved
laterally (on ball bearing drawer slides) to make it easier to reach a
seating position. Of course, my aversion to sliding into and out of
restaurant booths probably makes it more important to me than to others.

Ken H.


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com>wrote:

>
>
> I'm in the process of building the second twin bed for the front of our
> coach. Although we will be putting in a rear 'settee' with a table, we
> thought it would be nice to have a table up front also.
> ...
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Re: [GMCnet] HIdaway table [message #229112 is a reply to message #229106] Sun, 10 November 2013 07:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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here are the pictures of the original table

camping world used to sell them
Manny has one also

link
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/stowable-table-amp-j-sofa-dan-amp-mable-mackinnon/p156.html



On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:

> Kerry,
>
> Great job! I knew you'd get right on it, but didn't expect this prompt a
> prototype.
>
> One feature of my table that Kelvin seemed to particularly like is the
> sliding top. You may not remember that when erected, my top can be moved
> laterally (on ball bearing drawer slides) to make it easier to reach a
> seating position. Of course, my aversion to sliding into and out of
> restaurant booths probably makes it more important to me than to others.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Kerry Pinkerton <Pinkertonk@mchsi.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I'm in the process of building the second twin bed for the front of our
> > coach. Although we will be putting in a rear 'settee' with a table, we
> > thought it would be nice to have a table up front also.
> > ...
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Re: HIdaway table [message #229115 is a reply to message #229094] Sun, 10 November 2013 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken H's table
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3329-gas-powered-dining-table.html


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Re: [GMCnet] HIdaway table [message #229123 is a reply to message #229095] Sun, 10 November 2013 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sgltrac wrote on Sat, 09 November 2013 22:57

Pretty sweet Kerry! Makes me wish I had a horizontal propane tank shaped like an hourglass!


Todd Sullivan

Sully
77 royale
Seattle
You just need two smaller tanks, not one odd shape.
Re: HIdaway table [message #229126 is a reply to message #229094] Sun, 10 November 2013 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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Great looking project! I really need to fabricate something like this for my coach, but work keeps getting in the way!

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] HIdaway table [message #229140 is a reply to message #229123] Sun, 10 November 2013 11:07 Go to previous message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Two smaller tanks, another access door, another propane enclosure. Pretty sure none of that will happen. :/

Todd Sullivan

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:47 AM, A. <markbb1@netzero.com> wrote:
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>
>
> sgltrac wrote on Sat, 09 November 2013 22:57
>> Pretty sweet Kerry! Makes me wish I had a horizontal propane tank shaped like an hourglass!
>>
>>
>> Todd Sullivan
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 royale
>> Seattle
> You just need two smaller tanks, not one odd shape.
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