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| Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228864] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 06:49  |
mickey szilagyi
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The GMC forum has been a great source of information for us on all sorts of topics. However, once a topic/title has been established and replies are made, why is it that some replies show up as if they are new topics (titles with [GMCnet] in them) instead or replies to the original posted topic/title. It would make it much easier to follow and understand if all the replies were posted under the original title heading. Case in point - "Frame and Body Pads.
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| Re: Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228866 is a reply to message #228864] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 07:00  |
rcjordan
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I think it's due to this forum actually being a hybrid of a both a forum and an email listserv. From my guesstimates, about 65% of the members use listserv and that's where the splitting occurs somehow. It's a nuisance from ther forum-users' perspective but the dual system is otherwise a great set-up.
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| Re: Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228868 is a reply to message #228864] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 07:37 |
rcjordan
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>forumites
Yeah, the trailing replies get a little loooooooooooooong, but you learn to live with it.
With the omnipresence of smartphones and email apps nowadays, I can see the email version being the better failsafe mechanism for "GMC DOWN!" help posts. We've seen a few of those and though I've been of no help in those cases, it still makes me proud of GMCnet.
We forumites try to post straight links so you guys can see them.
I am a dual citizen, my setup allows me to read either the email view or the forum view, whichever is more convenient. I almost always reply or post in the forum, though.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228880 is a reply to message #228868] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 08:40 |
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RC,
If you look below you will my standard reply treatment.
I delete Sent, To, Subject, and trim From to only the name.
I delete any earlier messages in the message I am replying to.
If there is a signature that contains a name I leave it, anything else goes.
I delete the blurb that the GMCnet adds referring to itself and how to unsubscribe.
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-----Original Message-----
From: RC Jordan
Yeah, the trailing replies get a little loooooooooooooong, but you learn to live with it.
With the omnipresence of smartphones and email apps nowadays, I can see the email version being the better failsafe mechanism for
"GMC DOWN!" help posts. We've seen a few of those and though I've been of no help in those cases, it still makes me proud of GMCnet.
We forumites try to post straight links so you guys can see them.
I am a dual citizen, my setup allows me to read either the email view or the forum view, whichever is more convenient. I almost
always reply or post in the forum, though.
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| Re: Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228882 is a reply to message #228864] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 08:45 |
rcjordan
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a minor problem with dual citizenship is that the forum lags behind the listserv
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| Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228896 is a reply to message #228880] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 10:02 |
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I probably just don't know how to manipulate this iPad but from my viewpoint, it's VERY cumbersome to do what Rob suggests. I DO try to do that from my very slow computer email.
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> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:40, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
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> RC,
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> If you look below you will my standard reply treatment.
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> I delete Sent, To, Subject, and trim From to only the name.
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> I delete any earlier messages in the message I am replying to.
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> If there is a signature that contains a name I leave it, anything else goes.
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> I delete the blurb that the GMCnet adds referring to itself and how to unsubscribe.
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RC Jordan
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> Yeah, the trailing replies get a little loooooooooooooong, but you learn to live with it.
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> With the omnipresence of smartphones and email apps nowadays, I can see the email version being the better failsafe mechanism for
> "GMC DOWN!" help posts. We've seen a few of those and though I've been of no help in those cases, it still makes me proud of GMCnet.
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> We forumites try to post straight links so you guys can see them.
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> I am a dual citizen, my setup allows me to read either the email view or the forum view, whichever is more convenient. I almost
> always reply or post in the forum, though.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228903 is a reply to message #228898] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 10:34 |
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USAussie
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Guys,
I was addressing the long trailing messages that RC noted I did not mean to suggest that was what OTHER people should do.
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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Hood
Yeah, it's a PITA to do it from my iPhone. :)
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:02 AM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:
> I probably just don't know how to manipulate this iPad but from my
> viewpoint, it's VERY cumbersome to do what Rob suggests. I DO try to do
> that from my very slow computer email.
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> Mac in OKC
> Money Pit
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> Sent from my iPad
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| Re: Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228961 is a reply to message #228864] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 17:00 |
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The biggest forum/emailer issue I think is that some emailers split the thread by NOT replying "correctly". I think they must just copy the subject line from someone else's message and then send it out as a new message instead of using the "reply" function of their email program. If you look at messages (on the forum at least) you will see that each message has a number and if it is a reply to another message then it quotes that message number. That is what the forum software uses to build the tree display structure.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228966 is a reply to message #228924] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 17:50 |
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Emery what you stated about editing an email with the iPhone is all true except the round button part. On my iPhone5 running the latest version of IOS 7, the only round button available closes the active window. Your phone must have a customized setting.
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On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@me.com> wrote:
> I just replied to this on my iPhone.
> Pretty easy. Just push the round button at the bottom of the screen and release and the select bix appears. Move the cursor to the beginning and then the end of the section you want to cut and then select "cut".
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> Icandoutasquickly as ican on my computer.
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> Emery Stora
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>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Yeah, it's a PITA to do it from my iPhone. :)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228973 is a reply to message #228968] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 18:55 |
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Very possible, but he does say to press the round button to bring up the select box. The select box is what has those blue handles that permit you to select what text it contains.
I guess we need to wait for emery to explain in more detail.
Les Burt
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> On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I think Emery was referring to the handles that appear when you touch and hold on a word.
> < http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p51473-editing-an-email-on-an.html>
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Les Burt" <gmc.les@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 3:50:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format
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> Emery what you stated about editing an email with the iPhone is all true except the round button part. On my iPhone5 running the latest version of IOS 7, the only round button available closes the active window. Your phone must have a customized setting.
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> Les Burt
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| Re: Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228975 is a reply to message #228864] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 19:18 |
Don A
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Mickey
I don't know why that happens, but you may have noticed that the first message in those replies is usually the same one or two folks. Don't know why their system or habit makes that happen. It is annoying because it takes away some of the benefits of the forum automatically keeping the whole thread together without any editing or manipulating. Many folks don't seem to look at the thread before replying. Maybe why so many replies get so far off topic. But then what's the fun if it were to stay all organized.
| mickey szilagyi wrote on Fri, 08 November 2013 06:49 |
The GMC forum has been a great source of information for us on all sorts of topics. However, once a topic/title has been established and replies are made, why is it that some replies show up as if they are new topics (titles with [GMCnet] in them) instead or replies to the original posted topic/title. It would make it much easier to follow and understand if all the replies were posted under the original title heading. Case in point - "Frame and Body Pads.
Thanks,
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| Re: Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228978 is a reply to message #228961] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 19:36 |
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| armandminnie wrote on Fri, 08 November 2013 17:00 |
The biggest forum/emailer issue I think is that some emailers split the thread by NOT replying "correctly". I think they must just copy the subject line from someone else's message and then send it out as a new message instead of using the "reply" function of their email program. If you look at messages (on the forum at least) you will see that each message has a number and if it is a reply to another message then it quotes that message number. That is what the forum software uses to build the tree display structure.
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There is no set answer when it comes to email programs. It all depends on what program (or web site in the case of services like gmail or yahoo) the end user is using. So you cannot give general instructions to people and say you did this right or wrong.
The thing about web based forums is everyone starts or replies to postings in the same manner because only one program is running the show for all members.
Email relay systems were never designed for advanced functions. They simply receive an email, verify it's authenticity, and send it out to every one on it's internal list. Any further processing (if any) is the responsibility of receiver's email program. Some email relay systems do have the ability to batch received emails together and send them out only when a certain number have been held in queue or a certain amount of time has expired.
My best advice is to put up with it because you are never going to fix it as long as email access with it's limited function is intermixed with a higher function system.
Be happy with what you have.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #228981 is a reply to message #228966] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 19:53 |
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You are correct. I misspoke. You press the screen and you get a round "button" that is a magnifying glass that allows you to position the selection point. When you release your finger you get a box that says select select all and paste.
Emery Stora
On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Les Burt <gmc.les@gmail.com> wrote:
> Emery what you stated about editing an email with the iPhone is all true except the round button part. On my iPhone5 running the latest version of IOS 7, the only round button available closes the active window. Your phone must have a customized setting.
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> Les Burt
> Montreal
> 1975 Eleganza 26ft
> A work in Progress
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> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@me.com> wrote:
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>> I just replied to this on my iPhone.
>> Pretty easy. Just push the round button at the bottom of the screen and release and the select bix appears. Move the cursor to the beginning and then the end of the section you want to cut and then select "cut".
>>
>> Icandoutasquickly as ican on my computer.
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>> Emery Stora
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>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Yeah, it's a PITA to do it from my iPhone. :)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Forum Topics/Titles and Reply Format [message #229011 is a reply to message #228981] |
Fri, 08 November 2013 22:42 |
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Yes that is how mine works As well. Thanks for clearing that up.
Les Burt
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On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@me.com> wrote:
> You are correct. I misspoke. You press the screen and you get a round "button" that is a magnifying glass that allows you to position the selection point. When you release your finger you get a box that says select select all and paste.
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> Emery Stora
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>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Les Burt <gmc.les@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Emery what you stated about editing an email with the iPhone is all true except the round button part. On my iPhone5 running the latest version of IOS 7, the only round button available closes the active window. Your phone must have a customized setting.
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>> Les Burt
>> Montreal
>> 1975 Eleganza 26ft
>> A work in Progress
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>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@me.com> wrote:
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>>> I just replied to this on my iPhone.
>>> Pretty easy. Just push the round button at the bottom of the screen and release and the select bix appears. Move the cursor to the beginning and then the end of the section you want to cut and then select "cut".
>>>
>>> Icandoutasquickly as ican on my computer.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>>
>>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Robin Hood <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, it's a PITA to do it from my iPhone. :)
>>> _______________________________________________
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