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| [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228151] |
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ljdavick
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Here's a European show comparing different motorhomes on the same chassis as the new Dodge.
Sorry - Ram.
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228156 is a reply to message #228151] |
Sat, 02 November 2013 03:14  |
appie
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The majority of european campers are build on this fiat frame
Interesting enough it is build a lot like the gmc Ladder frame with the rearwheels mounted on the side of the frame to make a low entree and Frontwheeldrive
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
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Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
Denmark
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228260 is a reply to message #228151] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 08:15 |
rcjordan
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*IF* it got the conversions right, that Trakka is 11,000# GVW. Towing capacity is 2645#.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228261 is a reply to message #228257] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 08:32 |
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USAussie
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Jim,
Well spotted!
Here's a link to the spec's:
http://www.trakka.com.au/specifications.php?vehicle=Trakkaway&model=860
Note the following:
ENGINE:
Displacement (cc) 2,999
Cylinders 4
Maximum power (kW) 132 = 177 (hp)
Maximum torque (Nm) 400 = 295
TRANSMISSION:
Auto/Manual 6-speed Auto (Comfortmatic)
Drive Front Wheel
WEIGHTS:
Tare (kg) 4,250 = 9,369 (lb)
GVM (kg) 5,000 = 11,023 (lb)
Maximum payload excl. options (kg) 750 = 1653 (lb)
Maximum towable (kg) 1,200 = 2,645 (lb)
HEY, I just noticed the .au in their website address and that they're physical address is:
TRAKKA PTY LTD
9 Beaumont Road
Mount Kuring-gai
NSW 2080 AUSTRALIA
maptrakka@trakka.com.au
1800 872 552
That's only 38 km (23 mi) from my house! Looks like I'll be paying them a visit to see what I can learn when I get back home!
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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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From: Jim Gunther
Maybe here:
http://www.trakka.com.au/Trakkaway-860.php
or not. Noteworthy: It's 27 feet and had tandem wheels. Axle, bogie or ??
Jim
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228264 is a reply to message #228257] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 08:52 |
k2gkk
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Thanks, Jim.
That's really interesting. I calculate that the 860 is just a bit over 28' overall. GVWR is 11,000# and tow capacity 2,640#.
Probably wouldn't be a speed demon with the power, but with six speeds, ought to do fine.
I'm sure that we'll be seeing US RV builders coming up with product fairly quickly.
The AL KO rear suspensions are elastic (rubber?) based torsion axles and are commonly used on some US-made trailers. I believe I had two of them on a 28' Aerolite travel trailer. They work quite well.
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: JgmcG@RiskManagementSearch.com
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 07:53:56 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home
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> Maybe here:
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> http://www.trakka.com.au/Trakkaway-860.php
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> or not. Noteworthy: It's 27 feet and had tandem wheels. Axle, bogie or ??
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> k2gkk wrote on Sat, 02 November 2013 12:57
> > Where is "here?"
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> > Mac in OKC
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:59, "Larry Davick" <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > Here's a European show comparing different motorhomes on the same chassis as the new Dodge.
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> > Sorry - Ram.
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> > Larry Davick
> > A Mystery Machine
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228341 is a reply to message #228264] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 18:55 |
JimGunther
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I couldn't tell how the tandem was done, so, I wrote them a note asking (and also if Fiat / Chrysler) configured the bare chassi longer than 159 inches.
Hey Mueller, how much is the starting price in non-metric money (i.e. US Greenbacks) I mean, $209,000. could be rich or a bargain.
Meanwhile, the Winnebago Trend - lists ROUND $90,000. PRETTY NICELY EQUIPPED (AND, btw, WITH THE CHRYSLER v-6 GASSER)
| k2gkk wrote on Sun, 03 November 2013 09:52 |
Thanks, Jim.
That's really interesting. I calculate that the 860 is just a bit over 28' overall. GVWR is 11,000# and tow capacity 2,640#.
Probably wouldn't be a speed demon with the power, but with six speeds, ought to do fine.
I'm sure that we'll be seeing US RV builders coming up with product fairly quickly.
The AL KO rear suspensions are elastic (rubber?) based torsion axles and are commonly used on some US-made trailers. I believe I had two of them on a 28' Aerolite travel trailer. They work quite well.
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www.LotusV6.com
now former owner - ;(
73 GMC-II 2600
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228342 is a reply to message #228341] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 19:05 |
k2gkk
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Currentlly 1 USD gets you 1.054344 AUSD. 1 AUSD gets you .948457 USD.
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 18:55:43 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home
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> I couldn't tell how the tandem was done, so, I wrote them a note asking (and also if Fiat / Chrysler) configured the bare chassi longer than 159 inches.
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> Hey Mueller, how much is the starting price in non-metric money (i.e. US Greenbacks) I mean, $209,000. could be rich or a bargain.
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> Meanwhile, the Winnebago Trend - lists ROUND $90,000. PRETTY NICELY EQUIPPED (AND, btw, WITH THE CHRYSLER v-6 GASSER)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228353 is a reply to message #228287] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 20:42 |
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| ljdavick wrote on Sun, 03 November 2013 09:56 |
That just doesn't seem like enough torque, even with 6 gears. Any idea what the horsepower and torque figures are from Manny's 4 cylinder diesel?
Larry Davick
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The version here has it's own drivetrain package(2). Initially it is available with the 3.6 and 6 spd tranny (read Chrysler minivan). It's a very nice combo based on my initial testing.The VM Motori diesel will be next.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228364 is a reply to message #228341] |
Sun, 03 November 2013 21:45 |
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USAussie
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Jim,
$209,000 AUD = $197,212 USD.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Gunther
I couldn't tell how the tandem was done, so, I wrote them a note asking (and also if Fiat / Chrysler) configured the bare chassi
longer than 159 inches.
Hey Mueller, how much is the starting price in non-metric money (i.e. US Greenbacks) I mean, $209,000. could be rich or a bargain.
Meanwhile, the Winnebago Trend - lists ROUND $90,000. PRETTY NICELY EQUIPPED (AND, btw, WITH THE CHRYSLER v-6 GASSER)
Jim
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dodge / Fiat motor home [message #228410 is a reply to message #228364] |
Mon, 04 November 2013 11:57 |
JimGunther
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Thanks Rob - I though the Aussie dollar was on a par with the USD but, wasn't certain.
$200K is some real money no matter WHERE it's printed.
Looks like a re-powering of the GMC (the original point) seems still the most cost-effective way to go (even if it ran $100K.)
| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 03 November 2013 22:45 |
Jim,
$209,000 AUD = $197,212 USD.
Regards,
Rob M.
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www.LotusV6.com
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